9mm Defense Ammo.

For those using a 9mm revolver be sure to use the good ammo and not the cheap range stuff like Blaser for your defense. My son and I have fired quite a lot of Blaser in our model 986 and quite often the bullet will dislodge from the casing jamming up he cylinder.
 
For those using a 9mm revolver be sure to use the good ammo and not the cheap range stuff like Blaser for your defense. My son and I have fired quite a lot of Blaser in our model 986 and quite often the bullet will dislodge from the casing jamming up he cylinder.
For those with .38s converted to 9mm, the shops reportedly also recommend standard pressure ammo, no +p. The higher pressure rounds may expand the cases and be harder to extract. When I had a 940 years ago, extraction with +p+ wasn’t a problem.
 
Carried Hydrashock for years and then switched to HST .
Never had anything that they wouldn't work in so far.
Proven design just wish they were available for us reloaders.
 
Good post, but if you start using plain logic on an Internet site, some participants will refuse to play.
One day I arrived at the range. A young man. Was smacking the steel plates with a Hi-point 45. When I stepped to the line he tried to hide his gun.

I told him don't be embarrassed, if he pointed that gun at me I wouldn't laugh at the gun or what bullets were in it.
 
Because I do carry a short barrel, I use Sellier & Bellot XRG Defense 9mm Luger 100 gr Lead-Free in the summer and Federal S9SJT2 Syntech Defense Segmented Jacketed Hollow Point 138 gr in the winter.
Newbie shooter here, so forgive the silly question... But why the different ammunition depending on the season?
 
Depending on where one lives...an assailant can be wearing think clothing or overcoat that could fill a hollow point up and make it expand sooner than desired. You might want a deeper penetrating round for that. In summer weather that wouldn't be a factor.
 
Depending on where one lives...an assailant can be wearing think clothing or overcoat that could fill a hollow point up and make it expand sooner than desired. You might want a deeper penetrating round for that. In summer weather that wouldn't be a factor.
Snidely- I've heard that too, on the Internet. You think it might be more rumor or conjecture than fact? Even an example or two of that happening wouldn't mean much. I just wonder if there is any valid support of the theory rather than what YouDupe maestros spout.
 
Except for 22lr I reload for everything I shoot and my goal with 9mm is velocity and penetration.
My favorite load is 115gr poly coated hard cast bullets from ACME pushed by 5.2 grains of CFE Pistol powder.
I don't have a chronograph but Hodgdon says this load has an average velocity of 1100+ fps. They will usually punch through five 2X6s boards and penetrate a sixth and cycle fine in my old model 59 pistol.
Works for me. :cool:
 
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Snidely- I've heard that too, on the Internet. You think it might be more rumor or conjecture than fact? Even an example or two of that happening wouldn't mean much. I just wonder if there is any valid support of the theory rather than what YouDupe maestros spout.

I've heard it for a long time but have never seen anything conclusive to back it up. There is logic to it...but little evidence. I really think it's another urban myth started by gun writers back in the day wanting to have something to talk about and sell magazines. You also have to factor in the hollow point bullets of years ago weren't nearly as capable of defeating obstacles and maintaining terminal performance. Bullet design has improved immeasurably over time.

Short of wearing body armor...any clothing worn by an assailant will get punctured by any modern, well designed bullet of any serious caliber...and continue on into the vitals given proper shot placement. There's no perfect bullet...anything can happen and often does.
 
I've heard it for a long time but have never seen anything conclusive to back it up. There is logic to it...but little evidence. I really think it's another urban myth started by gun writers back in the day wanting to have something to talk about and sell magazines. You also have to factor in the hollow point bullets of years ago weren't nearly as capable of defeating obstacles and maintaining terminal performance. Bullet design has improved immeasurably over time.

Short of wearing body armor...any clothing worn by an assailant will get punctured by any modern, well designed bullet of any serious caliber...and continue on into the vitals given proper shot placement. There's no perfect bullet...anything can happen and often does.
Your answer makes much sense; thank you.
 
Don’t overthink it- the vast majority of modern SD ammo does what it’s supposed to do. Find what works reliably in your firearm and what you shoot well. For me it’s always been either Remington Golden Saber 124-gr+P (back when they loaded it), Winchester Silvertip 115-gr or the old Federal 9BPLE load.
 
I am sworn with two law enforcement agencies. One issues Speer G2 147 grain 9MM. The other issues Speer Gold Dot 124 Grain. Most law enforcement agencies in my area that issue 9MM's use Speer Gold Dot in differing grain weights.
 
Looking for a recommend load for a 9mm.
1. Speers Gold Dot
2. Winchester Ranger
3. ??

It really doesn't matter. Any of the big names will work. Shot placement is more important There are a gazillion "tests" out there, Every situation is different. There was a long test several years agi Ammo Quest, He did a really good job on several calibers, brand etc,
What does the Police and FBI carry??

 
Unlikely to get much if any expansion from 9mm HPs out of a short barrel. If you do penetration is likely to suffer. Best ammo for a short barreled 9mm is good warm 115 gr or 124 gr FMJ. Good penetration with some yawing of the bullet to create a larger than caliber wound channel combined with sure function.
 
Lehigh. Do a little research. They work. The data is there. Marketing wasn’t strong enough, but the performance impressed Bill Wilson enough to buy the company. Now thst Ken Hackathorn is getting on the bandwagon, I predict the brand really taking off.
 
The agency I retired from was exclusively Winchester since the early 90's...during that period we had several OIS all of which resulted in the demise of the offender. Since retirement, I've found that Winchester LE ammo has been much more difficult to obtain on the civilian market than Federal and others. But, when available to me, the bonded 124 or 147 is my preference...followed by HST.
There are numerous new offerings in multiple calibers which may prove effective, but the top 3, Winchester, Federal & Speer are the brands with the most consistent "street proven" results.
 
The 9BPLE is the +P+ version, fwiw.
This round does not fare too well against hard barriers, but it is very close to the top in putting people or similar sized animals on the floor. I can't remember ever having a pistol that did not run perfectly with this round. I have never tried it in a sub compact.
 
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