lightstar_actual
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Recovered 5906 damaged by the police.
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Yup it's turned into quite the show hasn't it. My son and I have been accused of insurance fraud, lying about the police who have never done nuffin wrong because they have policies. Along with just turn it into a grouper weight because they are cheap. Nevermind these folks might not take into account there may be sentimental value involved, which there is. I'm sure there's more but just pop in to see how it's digressing.
I just stated facts as I know them looking for some of the same folks that use to be here. But it looks like this new crew has run them off.
Me either.
Only been here since 2011.
For the most part I'm not seeing that.
Unfortunately, many of the best officers have retired or been driven out of some areas. The ones remaining are not, as a whole, nearly as professional, or even qualified to be in LE. Depending on the overall quality of officers where one lives, the experience will reflect the reality of that area.
Having seen some of my local PD in action, I have no faith in them to deal with violent criminals. Others are very competent.
I am a gun guy and was born a lover of firearms. From the stories told, I was born loving them, and my mother has always thought I was odd for my interest in firearms. I carry guns as much because I like them as well as because I won't know which officer I may need to rely on in a bad situation.
I've felt bad for some badly wounded deer on the side of the road. I have personally witnessed a few officers having issues with hitting those poor animals at point blank range... It's a deer, and not a violent person.
That's not remotely surprising. The larger any organization is, there will always be bad apples that get in the door. It's important to have the means to root them out and try and replace them with better people.
Nice try! Evidence falls under state rules and EVERY state has rules for handling evidence. You're welcome!
Every state has rules for handling evidence it isnt by chance as you are intimating!
While states have broad, general laws on property and somewhat more specific case law on evidence-handling, none that I've seen are a substitute for the detailed policies each agency develops. Many agencies modify CALEA or PERF model policies or those from other agencies to meet their investigative needs, training, volume, work force, and physical facilities capacity.
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No one even hinted policies develop by chance. Ever.
I had a 632 stolen. Recovered about 6 month later in a drug bust. Multiple perps and it turned into a federal RICO case. I kept in touch with local PD and they in turn gave me the name of the PA trooper in charge . Took 5 years for the case to clear. Finally, after I had moved back to Florida, they shipped me my gun. I had to pay the dealer who brought it in, but the gun came zip wrapped to a box with a clear cover. No damage at all. It had be fired and they didnt clean it, but I didnt expect they would. Absolutely no complaints about how the Pennsylvania state police handled my property.
From a previous post:
"All police departments do not have the same policies on handling of seized property or items of evidence, particularly with guns.
Many rural departments have no written, official policy at all, or at least they didn’t used to a few years ago. I know this from personal experience."
And? The small agencies w/o policies I worked with in my areas, usually 3 to 15 officers, sought advice from larger agencies, often us, in their area or the district attorney. Unless they want criminal exposure for tampering (I never knew anyone who did), they don't pull evidence-handling out of their posteriors.
If the small agency was dealing with a crime that was outside their capacity, they often would ask us to take the case, we would so long as the DA blessed it and the scene was as undisturbed as possible under the circumstances. We turned down a homicide in Bayard because the crime scene was contaminated and not secured.
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We are saying the same thing! Policy matters!
Those rules are not always enforced.
It’s also illegal for jailers to furnish illicit drugs to prisoners, or have sex with them, but it happens quite often anyway.
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Its been like 15 years since I've seen a ib4tl post on a forum.. now I feel old
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That's like saying you wouldn't want a car returned that had been stolen and then driven by a drunk driver. It makes absolutely NO sense.
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I think were at a point that everyone's spoken their peace and noones going to change anyone else's perceptions or opinions. This'll just keep going on and on like a political argument noone wins. OP you have alot of insight here from both sides of the fence per say. Make a decision on what to do with the weapon and move on.
If you want to investigate, pull a FOIA request for the reports, body cam, photos and evidence log. At least in Illinois, we're past the point where every dept big or small is required to have body cams.
If something doesn't jive, you do you... ppl and depts need to be accountable for damaged property if it legitamitely happened during the course of duty from negligence.
Best of luck
If you want to investigate, pull a FOIA request for the reports, body cam, photos and evidence log. At least in Illinois, we're past the point where every dept big or small is required to have body cams.
If something doesn't jive, you do you... ppl and depts need to be accountable for damaged property if it legitamitely happened during the course of duty from negligence.
Best of luck
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I have posted IBTL just a few times. And here I am again, IBTL.
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