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Autococker07
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Larry, you do realize that pressure wise, the GAP is equivalent to a 45 ACP +P right? it is higher pressure than a standard 1911..... don't know if I would be putting them in a 1917, but ymmv
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Larry, you do realize that pressure wise, the GAP is equivalent to a 45 ACP +P right? it is higher pressure than a standard 1911..... don't know if I would be putting them in a 1917, but ymmv
Rastoff
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Just like the .357Sig and .40S&W, it was a solution looking for a problem.
Amazingly the .40S&W has caught on. It has an interesting history. The FBI started carrying the 10mm. Many of the agents started buying down loaded ammo to reduce recoil. S&W saw what was going and made what is basically a 10mm short and called it the .40S&W. Glock jumped on it and made the G22. Police all over the world bought into the hype of the Glock and it was a great success.
Alas, the .357Sig and .45GAP have not see such success. Just another flop in a long list of obsolete calibers.
Amazingly the .40S&W has caught on. It has an interesting history. The FBI started carrying the 10mm. Many of the agents started buying down loaded ammo to reduce recoil. S&W saw what was going and made what is basically a 10mm short and called it the .40S&W. Glock jumped on it and made the G22. Police all over the world bought into the hype of the Glock and it was a great success.
Alas, the .357Sig and .45GAP have not see such success. Just another flop in a long list of obsolete calibers.
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I've seen the cartridge once. It reminded me of the old .455 Webley self-loader cartridge. Other than that, I figure if you want a .45 automatic...there is only one round and that's the .45 ACP.
Everything else is irrelevant.
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Don't know why, but I laughed when I read Glock grip ergonomics, probably because I could hardly read it without stumbling.
Can anybody say
Glock Gap grip ergonomics five times?
gregintenn
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Why wouldn't you shoot full power loads in a 1917? I do. Should I not?
I don't see the point. A totally useless caliber since we already have the .45 acp and the .45 long colt.
Rintimtin
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The South Carolina Highway Patrol service pistols are .45GAP.
Does anybody other than Glock make a pistol chambered in it?
Does anybody other than Glock make a pistol chambered in it?
Rintimtin
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Don't know why, but I laughed when I read Glock grip ergonomics, probably because I could hardly read it without stumbling.
Can anybody say
Glock Gap grip ergonomics five times?
Glock GAP Grip Ergonomics, Glock GAP Grip Ergonomics, Glock GAP Grip Ergonomics, Glock GAP Grip Ergonomics, Glock GAP Grip Ergonomics
That was hard but I did it
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Sounds good, but that is not the way it went.
The 10mm was dying a slow death because most departments were dissatisfied with recoil and capacity. The required length of the grip frame for that long cartridge made a double stack impractical for anyone but those with huge hands.
S&W worked with the ammo companies to develop the 40 S&W, hoping to offer more bullet diameter and weight in the 9mm size frames AND retain most of the mag capacity.
It sounded like the best of both worlds- performance that would get far closer to the 45 than the 9mm could ever hope for while retaining the high cap of a double stack that a female cop's hand could handle.
I'm sure that a way to capitalize on the investment in the .40" tooling that had already been made for both gun and ammo production might also have figured into it.
With the somewhat mediocre success of the 40, I think maybe Glock thought the 'magic number' of 45 might have made his turkey soar like an eagle.
mkk41
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Yep , it was supposed to pack .45 ACP ballistics in a 9mm/.40 frame for small-handed girliemen and quota filling females. 
It's hardly a new idea. There has been a cartridge called the .45 Short for years. It's 1mm shorter than a standard length .45 ACP , for countries that don't allow civilian ownership of pistols that chamber military cartridges.
It's hardly a new idea. There has been a cartridge called the .45 Short for years. It's 1mm shorter than a standard length .45 ACP , for countries that don't allow civilian ownership of pistols that chamber military cartridges.
Well, maybe, but I think Herr Glock didn't account for the stubbornness of the U.S. market - and its attachment to the .45 ACP.
Then again, the Koolaid-drinking bureaucrats have probably at least partially offset the lack of success he appears to have had with the U.S. private citizen. The bureau-fatcats have a lot of money to spend these days - but who knows for how long? He had better recover his R&D costs quickly, but nasty old competition may make that difficult.
DR505
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I've never run across one myself. They don't seem to common place out here.
As the folks in London like to say, "Mind the GAP."
As the folks in London like to say, "Mind the GAP."
policerevolvercollector
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The Georgia State Patrol carries the .45 GAP too. (the full size Glock 37 & the small Glock 39 as a back up).
They have had a number of officer involved shootings since adopting these pistols. The troopers that I have talked to really like it and seem to have no complaints.
I have the mid sized Glock 38 & have found it to be very accurate with less recoil that a .45 acp. It is fun to shoot!
They have had a number of officer involved shootings since adopting these pistols. The troopers that I have talked to really like it and seem to have no complaints.
I have the mid sized Glock 38 & have found it to be very accurate with less recoil that a .45 acp. It is fun to shoot!
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Never heard that before.
Have any pics or links or data?
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Don't know why, but I laughed when I read Glock grip ergonomics, probably because I could hardly read it without stumbling.
Can anybody say
Glock Gap grip ergonomics five times?
I'm assuming you're making a "funny"...that said, for someone like me who started with the M1911 platform, and continued to use that platform throughout my military career, I have yet to find any semi-auto on the market that feels as ergonomically correct and naturally pointing as the 1911. Now, can we say "ergonomically correct and naturally pointing" 5 times without sounding like a babbling idiot?
williamlayton
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I would buy another 9x23 before I would even consider a .45 GAP.
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I'm assuming you're making a "funny"Can anybody say
Glock Gap grip ergonomics five times?
Egads, man! Do you think I would joke about something as serious as alliteration?
Hopefully, behavior so coarse shall ever be beneath me!
<<<(means a "funny" 
)ColbyBruce
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The Springfield XD was once offered in .45 GAP. I do not own one, only because in my area I will never be able to get what I paid for it, should I decide I don't love it anymore. I like the way the Glock 38 shoots, recoil is like a 9mm. I have fired GAP ammo out of my S&W 625-3 with no problems. It is an accurate round.
I also like .32 H&R mag and .357 SIG cartridges.
I also like .32 H&R mag and .357 SIG cartridges.
venomballistics
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As I understand it, the 45 GAP is supposed to be a slightly shorter version of the 45 ACP loaded to higher pressures to come out the same.
other than shaving a tenth of an inch out of a grip, it offers nothing we don't already have.
I dub thee FAIL Gaston Glock
other than shaving a tenth of an inch out of a grip, it offers nothing we don't already have.
I dub thee FAIL Gaston Glock
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