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08-19-2018, 11:44 AM
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Opinions on fiocchi 357 158gr jhp or their ammo in general
What are everyone's opinions on this ammo in terms of revolver cartridges. The price is very good for a box of 50 for jhp. It doesn't seem to have a roll crimp like hornady does, but more of a taper crimp. Has anyone ever had an issue with their bullets jumping the crimp?
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08-19-2018, 12:03 PM
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I’ve shot many boxes of it and never had a problem. It tends to be a hotter load than some other .357 Magnum rounds I’ve shot, with more flash, but I have found it clean burning. It’s one of my common target rounds if I can find it. The price is usually close to fmj rounds from other makers.
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08-19-2018, 12:51 PM
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I have shot a fair bit of it, mostly in oddball calibers that they still make and nobody else does. Never had a lick of trouble with it.
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08-19-2018, 12:54 PM
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I have used boatloads of Fiocchi rounds in both .38 and .357 and they work great. I even used it when getting my CCL. And you just can't beat the price!
And oh, I almost forgot, their brass is great for reloading too.
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08-19-2018, 03:58 PM
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Fiocchi has always worked well for me.
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08-19-2018, 04:40 PM
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I've shot some of their 45 acp stuff......worked well for me.
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08-19-2018, 09:42 PM
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Fiocchi ammunition, IMO, is exceptionally good ammo! I have expended many rounds of shotgun and centerfire ammo. They have a dedicated plant in Missouri.
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08-19-2018, 10:23 PM
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Shot a ton of Fiocchi in .357 in both a Model 640 and a 686-6 with never a problem. It's one of my first choices for affordable range ammo.
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08-19-2018, 11:01 PM
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Fiocchi good ammo in 357, 38 and 45, Also I like their brass the headstamp GFL are my initials
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08-19-2018, 11:06 PM
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I discounted them..
I mean they weren't Hornady, Speer, Winchester, Remington or a few others. But when I tried it I was pleased.
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07-04-2019, 10:57 AM
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Have a pair of well cared for 11mo & 13mo old S&W M27 6 1/2" guns in to Smith for repair. Smith claims that that my use of Fiocchi 357f ammo has ruined ("corroded") the forcing cones on both guns and correspondingly charged me $400 per gun to repair them. I have around 3500 rounds through both guns and have used almost exclusively Fiocchi 357f in them. Fiocchi's response to my query is that ALL of their ammo (USA & Italian) loads are to SAMI spec and that they have NO record of their ammo causing such problems. Based on all my experience and reading, I have not seen anyone have less than an excellent opinion of their Fiocchi usage. There appears to be overwhelming evidence that in reality the guns were defective but S&W wont admit it.
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07-04-2019, 11:31 AM
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I like Fiocchi (except remembering how to spell it!)
i've got some regular 38 special FMJ that has a heck of a kick, more than +P, probably a great penetrating load.
Their 25acp is the best functioning in all the 25's I've had.
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07-04-2019, 03:51 PM
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I think they make high quality ammo at a very good price. They have been in business for a very long time and are still family owned.
I saw a segment on them and the old obscure ammo they are producing is being made in the century old original building on the original machinery. The building was closed for decades and the younger generation suggested they bring it back into production. They rehabilitated the old machinery and went back into production of ammo that wasn't available in some cases for decades. Smart IMO, find a need and fill it.
Sorry I went long winded on them but I think they are a good company.
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07-04-2019, 05:24 PM
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Have a pair of well cared for 11mo & 13mo old S&W M27 6 1/2" guns in to Smith for repair. Smith claims that that my use of Fiocchi 357f ammo has ruined ("corroded") the forcing cones on both guns and correspondingly charged me $400 per gun to repair them. I have around 3500 rounds through both guns and have used almost exclusively Fiocchi 357f in them. Fiocchi's response to my query is that ALL of their ammo (USA & Italian) loads are to SAMI spec and that they have NO record of their ammo causing such problems. Based on all my experience and reading, I have not seen anyone have less than an excellent opinion of their Fiocchi usage. There appears to be overwhelming evidence that in reality the guns were defective but S&W wont admit it.
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You're not the first to experience that. I've also seen similar forcing cone / top strap damage done with Fiocchi magnum ammo to a 627.
I expect their .357 is loaded with faster burning powder than what you see with domestic manufacture.
Similarly, I know of at least one person that loaded "SAAMI spec" .357 with book max charges of Unique and got the same result. Using 2400, on the other hand, will not eat up a forcing cone or erode a top strap in the same manner.
Burn rate in this case makes all the difference. Federal/Win/CCI have been loaded magnum ammunition for years without this problem. European ammunition is great for automatics, but this is exactly why I stick to domestic (or reloads) for revolvers.
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07-04-2019, 06:20 PM
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I’ve shot their truncated cone fmj 357 mag load, and it seemed pretty accurate in my 3” GP100.
In general though, my favorite all around shooting 357 factory load is the American Eagle 158gn soft point. I could use that load for anything from fun to serious.
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07-04-2019, 07:41 PM
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I've always liked the Fiocchi brand. They had a short-lived association with Smith & Wesson many years ago. I previously thought of them as an Italian ammo company, but over 75 percent of the ammunition Fiocchi sells in the United States is also manufactured in the United States.
The history of the Fiocchi company can be read here:
Fiocchi Ammo at Ammo.com: Cheap Fiocchi Ammo in Bulk
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Since we are dredging up an older thread, I'll add my experience with Fiocchi ammo. My experience has been with 12 gauge shotgun and 9x19mm pistol ammo. In both cases, I found it to be quality ammo, no misfires or failures of any sort. The 9mm ammo I tried was their 115 grain JHP load. I fired it my TZ-75 Series 88 pistol, which was having some failures to eject issues with American Eagle and Winchester USA 115 grain FMJ ammo. I found the Fiocchi ammo cycled this pistol beautifully, with no malfunctions and the brass was easily clearing the ejection port and landing several feet from the pistol.
The Winchester and Federal 115 grain ammo was making about 1150 fps, the Fiocchi was making about 1200 fps, Remington 115 grain +P ammo clocked at 1250 fps. Fiocchi is good stuff, but they do load it to or very near maximum SAMMI pressure levels.
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07-13-2019, 02:23 PM
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You do get some extra velocity from Fiocchi. One reason I like them. Same with Sellier & Bellot.
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07-14-2019, 12:48 AM
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Out of 100 rounds I only had one dud 158 gr .357 mag ammo.
I bought 250 rounds for my .41 mag from LAX Ammo and I'll never buy their ammo again..
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07-14-2019, 03:55 PM
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I have bought and shot a good bit (a few hundred rounds) of their hollow point ammo in .380. Seems to be pretty good quality, and loaded hot enough to be reliable (.380s can be finicky).
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Can’t comment on the magnums, but I shot a boatload of Fiocchi 115 grn 9mm range ammo back when they were the manufacturer for Cabelas house brand Herters. Cleanliness, accuracy and feed were equal or better than other big name range ammo of the time. Their Shooting Dynamics line is often on sale. Good value and USA made. I say shoot it with confidence.
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