What price do you think 9mm FMJ will settle to?

What do you think the price of a 1000 round case of 9mm brass cas FMJ will settle to?

  • <$170

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • $170 - $180

    Votes: 6 5.3%
  • $180 - $200

    Votes: 14 12.3%
  • $200 - $220

    Votes: 18 15.8%
  • $220 - $240

    Votes: 19 16.7%
  • $240 - $270

    Votes: 25 21.9%
  • $270 - $300

    Votes: 11 9.6%
  • $300 - $400

    Votes: 18 15.8%

  • Total voters
    114
  • Poll closed .
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As supply catches up to demand the price of ammo is falling but is still very high. How low do you think it will go?

This is for a 1000 round case of 9mm FMJ practice ammo not including shipping.

I think there is going to be a permanent price increase of about $20/case due to the increased cost of lead and brass but that will be much lower than the current price of about $400/case.
 
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I hope I am wrong but remember how long gasoline took to break that $1.00 a gallon barrier? Then it floated back and forth a bit, then crossed and had never looked back?

I hope we have not broken some imaginary barrier on what companies thought we would pay for ammo.
 
I hope I am wrong but remember how long gasoline took to break that $1.00 a gallon barrier? Then it floated back and forth a bit, then crossed and had never looked back?

I hope we have not broken some imaginary barrier on what companies thought we would pay for ammo.

We have. No way the prices go back to what they were. They’re gonna charge as much as they think they can get away with. I predict $15 a box of 50 will be the new norm, and primers will be $50 or so for a brick.
 
They said the same thing back in 2014-2015. Then Trump happened and then it plunged. I got 9mm for $6.87/50 before the pandemic

I don’t believe it will get that low. But I do believe it will be around $14-$16/50 by next fall.

If the manufacturers slow down…which I do expect them to..they learned from 2014-15. That was why they didn’t expand their facilities this time around.


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Browning

Just seen browning 9mm $379.00
My guess is $240.00
Its probably stocked to the roof and making no profit if not sold.
But time will tell.
 
I’m expecting to find bargain priced ammo I formerly found as low as $.15/rd to settle in around $.25 if we’re lucky, but if the winds of “anti-gunness” continue to blow or the panic continues, the sky may remain the limit.

Likewise, primers will likely settle in about $40-45/thousand if I’m reading my old crystal ball correctly.

Then again, I might just be dreaming or full of hog wash! :rolleyes:

Froggie
 
Either way , I'm set . After Sandy Hook ( I think that's the one ) I swore I would never be caught short again . I took me several years to climb out of that situation . 9mm , .30 cal M2 , and .22 Lr are well stocked around here .
 
The cost of the raw materials are about double. I'm in the 12-15 a box of 50.

I did just pick up a 50 rd box of PMC Bronze .40 165 gr Jacketed flat point for $19 locally. I'm going back in the morning with my partner and youngest step-son to get 3 more boxes.

Steel 7.62x39 is showing up under $300/1K
 
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I think it is going to eventually settle to about $210 to $220. Material prices are very high now but like the price of lumber that is probably transient for the most part. Note I said mostly, I do think there is going to be some increase in the price of materials and inflation in general.

But I am going to hedge my bets by replacing what I have been shooting for the past two years when I start seeing it below $300.

The ammo makers learned from past shortages that if they build more capacity demand and prices might fall before that capital investment pays off. But they are going to keep running their existing plants full tilt as long as making ammo is the next best thing to printing money.

Of course all bets are off if there is some big political move.
 
I can see range ammo in the $15-20 area for a box of 50.
Now I have only been in this hobby for about 9 years so have not seen as many ups and downs as others but what I have seen was usually tied to one event. Election, shooting, etc.

These days we have multiple events/situations going on, from political to civil unrest to covid. And covid’s continued worldwide reach still affects everything from transportation to closures to materials to labor.

So my only somewhat educated guess is that due to so many variables we may see prices settle down; but likely never back to where they were a couple years ago. Just too many unknowns.
 
Transportation costs must be a big part of ammo prices, given the weight of ammo. If trucking costs come down, ammo prices will.
 
Until the price of copper comes down don't expect a big drop - IMO. Since copper is necessary for the jacketed bullet and for making the brass case it'll stay rather high & add the trucking cost as mentioned earlier.
That covers 'locally' sourced ammo but for overseas sources there are the issues of the container ships being slowed by the virus and . . .those manufacturers also have to deal with the copper price. Their only upside might be labor costs.
 
Panic/shortage issues aside, inflation is real and it affects ammo, too. I joked with my wife the other day that we’ll all be living in million dollar homes soon. They’ll be the same houses, just worth a million dollars due to inflation caused by the massive printing of money in the name of the plague.

On top of inflation, ammunition manufacturers and retailers are not in business to try to get us the lowest price on our bullets so we can have a great time shooting at the range. They are in business to maximize profits. This whole mess that we’ve been going through is a great opportunity to get to new price and profit levels.

It’s happening in all industries. I recently talked to the guy that runs the largest auto dealer group in the metro area. He said they’ve had record profits, by far, over the past year, and it continues.

My prediction is that $15/box of 50 will be the new target price for 9mm FMJ range fodder. You’ll see some retailers selling it a couple bucks under that price, and some retailers selling it for a couple/few bucks more.

I do business with one of the largest gun retailers in my area. Guy had/has warehouse full of ammo. Federal 9mm range “target” ammo was $9 a box pre COVID.

Last Spring, he told me that he had plenty of ammo and wasn’t worried about supply, and would hold prices. By Summertime, that same 9mm range ammo was around $45 a box, limit 2 boxes. That same ammo (literally, same stock of ammo) is now priced at $24.95 per box. I expect it to continue to come down more, in time.

Think of the money this guy has been making, profiting off of panic and stupidity! He was making good profit at $9 per box! Of course, he’ll buy new lots of ammo when pricing and availability comes down (now/near future). Yes, it’ll be more expensive than in the past (inflation), and he’ll price it accordingly. I predict $15 +/-.

Over time, I’ve never seen guns, ammo, and components go down in price, always up.
 
LGS now has 1000 cci SPP and LPP for $56.00. brazer 9mm ammo for $20/50. I go to ammo seek almost daily to see whats going on with ammo not that I need any but its like checking the stock market and prices are falling 9mm now is around 30 cents around and a few months ago it was 70 to 80 cents.
I don't think 9mm will drop below 25 cents for a long time if ever.
 
As others have stated, and I agree, 30 cents per round is probably going to be the "new normal" for 115-124 grain FMJ 9x19mm. Who knows, with the military withdrawal from the hot zone, we might see some surplus ammo show up for a bit less.
 
I got an email from Target Sports USA the other day. They had a lot of 9mm in the .45 to .50 range. That's a bit more than twice what it used to be better than it has been and it's staying in stock. It's still there. The supply chain is filling back up.

Manufacturers won't cut back to keep prices high. It doesn't work that way for a variety of reasons. If they have orders they fill them.
 
Investment advisers can instruct you on the principle of cost averaging, which can work for you during market swings.

Simply explained, buy in increments on a regular basis. A case today at $400, a case next month at $360, again the following month at $320, and another at $290. At that point you have $1370 invested in 4 cases, for a cost average of $342 per case.

Works in a similar manner during a rising market. When the market levels off to a more permanent condition you may continue purchasing regularly with very little effect on your cost average.

Those who suffer the most are the folks who are forced to purchase during times of limited supply. Similarly, those who find themselves forced to sell quickly will feel the pain more than those who can take their time.

Personally, other than .22 rimfire ammo I doubt that I have purchased a thousand rounds total in the past 50 years. I've been reloading for so long that I find it difficult to think about buying ammunition. I have learned to stockpile lead for bullet casting and purchase powder and primers when available at livable prices, which is about the same thing as stockpiling ammo for non-reloaders.

I'm still shooting 9mm (and .38 Spl, .40S&W, .45ACP, and others) for about 5 or 6 cents per round. About triple what it cost when I started reloading, but still very economical and I have all the ammunition I need!
 

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