I can't for a few reasons. Mostly he is still, for now, an active policeman here in my area. What I can say, is I'm highly surprised that our deceased police chief, Floyd Simpson, never fired him. About twice a year there is a news report on him because of mishandling someone he arrested. Our new chief may not keep him as one of his officers but, we'll see, we'll see.

I work with an agency one time that had an officer so overbearing, he bordered on being just right down mean.

He did a traffic stop on this kid and his body guard and he (the officer) proceeded to over-step to the point that a formal complain was filed.....The kid's grandfather, the then founder and CEO of the Dollar General Corp.
and did proceed to get that roughing's badge so to speak.


The moral, don't mis-treat folks rich or poor.


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I find it disturbing, to say the least, that open carry isn't "allowed" in all our States. Who ARE these people doing the allowing/ non-allowing?

The "who" that were voted into office and the "what" that paid for it.

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Of course.
I was just being sarcastic.

Criminals pick their targets. Visible means of a good defense = hard target. No visible means for defense = possible soft target. Armed either way = Good. BAD cop = possible rough time either way but very rare. Good cop = no problems. Nothing wrong about respecting the police, works both ways. Telling someone not to do something that's legal = none of your business. Grabbing someones gun = got guts enough to try it?? Sure they have only one?? And no knife? Not everyone is helpless. If you don't understand this = Paranoid, quit whining, stay in your world and leave me alone in mine. Be safe.

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Kid,

I personal like to express my favor of concealed carry when it's time
to be discrete and I favor open carry at other times.

But all this one sidedness is getting old, the ones that voice it so loudly
for either side, reminds me of an ol story told by a cowboy poet.




I'll paraphrase here to shorten it a bit,

Once there was a bronc peeler that hired on this western outfit,
before he'd un-rolled his bed in the bunkhouse he was get his story set.

He let all and sundried know that he was an ol time hand and hoped
this outfit had some horses a real hand could ride with pride.

He claimed to have rode em awful tough from Canadian all the way to out Arizona way,
He sed, "Ya got to set em salty or they's jar ya to the gills."

Wells one day ol Lash drawed a little brown pony that sur nuf had some buck and bawl in him....
The little hoss set this bronc peeler afoot for the third time that day.

When the kid that was helpin the cook stepped up and says, "Let me give that lil'l dun a whirl".
The kid swung up in the saddle as light as a feather and took himself a deep seat before the pony
knew he was even mounted...That horse bogged his head and set in to a pitchin, landing on one foot then
the other, jump high and rolling his belly toward the sun, but this broncy colt couldn't set the boy on
the ground. The kid reached up and spur'd a lick er two just for show.

When the lit'l dun had had enough, he stood stock still as the dust was a settlin,
the kid stepped to the ground and giving his hat a whirl he sezs to Lash La Rue,
"Now ya can give him to yur girl." (Seems like Cookie's helper was a bronc peeler too)


And this, as in most cases, the toughest horses a big mouth rides...Is in some other places.


Su Amigo,
Dave
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I'm not trying to be political, but this IS the truth. Here in Texas the vote went straight along party lines, and the democrats were the ones who opposed open carry,and a couple of them tried stonewalling tactics ( which eventually failed and only managed a slight delay in the new law) and the end result did not change a thing.

Heh heh, sounds like that kid got lucky showing off. I can't show off anything yet, still need the I.D. rig and such. Truthfully, I don't know if I'll ever carry openly or not once I'm legally able. Just depend on peoples attitudes I guess.

Although I've been to the big city and have saw the elephant....

I don't open carry too awful much in town.
I'd step out and pump a lit'l fuel into the pickup with my sidearm without nary a thought about it....

I don't think I'd promenade around the metro-plex open carrying,

Right on the other hand, I'd think nothing of riding my horse down the
lane at the Stockyard in Ft. Worth armed with a SAA.


So there is a time and place for everything I guess...


Su Amigo,
Dave

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Kroger supports you, and pisses off Bloomberg, win-win.

Grocery Store Defies Anti-Gun Movement, Welcomes Open-Carry Shoppers | Market Daily News

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Let's go Krogering.....The happy way to shop!



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Just a philosophical query...

Which is more politically correct,,,Open Carry or Concealed Carry?

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One should carry any way that is most comfortable at the time, the PC people don't like anything anyhow.. Sides', I figure the only political correctness I've read here is to the forum itself. Keep up the good work people, I love hearing all opinions. Time is the best teacher, and a lot of us have a very good education. Main thing is to learn to listen and pay attention. Try it, it works. Helps a lot.

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Yes Sir,

A feller can sure learn a lot around these parts......

I jest hang around mostly for the comic relief

Happy New Year to all Y'all


Su Amigo,
Dave

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OMG! NEITHER ONE! Only a masculinely-impaired, ignorant, low education, pin-headed, inbred, white, redneck, Christian Neanderthal would even OWN a gun, let alone CARRY one! At least, that's what the leftists keep telling me. Since they are the experts on politically correct, I tell them that as far as I'm concerned PC is what's on my desk.

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That is another reason I shop at Kroger.The only person other than police officers that I have seen open carrying in Kroger. Was a young disabled vet in a wheelchair. I challenge anyone to tell him he has not earned the right to carry any d### way he wants.

I open carry every chance I get here in ohio. No problems yet

That old myth again?

WV is a little odd in that yes we have open carry,but you can get a whole new set of problems such as if you OC a pistol in a vehicle the game warden can fine you for illegal hunting.

I read that one and asked around and it is technically true,never heard of it happening but it can happen supposedly.

I have the carry permit and prefer to keep it out of sight so I can be a very unpleasant surprise for any troublemakers

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I open carry in Tulsa and Oklahoma City among others with no issues. I'm so tired of people using the term "common sense" when it isn't. Isn't it enough that the leftists use it?

I did have one young fellow ask me if my nickel-plated S&W Model 37 Airweight Chief's Special .38 SPL was a "forty-five," though.

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Not likely. Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw | Examiner.com

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I don't normally open carry, but i am glad that the law was passed to allow open carry. I recently began carrying a Glock 30 (45 SA) and it is on my
left side at 10 o'clock. Outside my vehicle it is covered by my shirt, but
inside my vehicle, it is difficult to draw if it is positioned under the shirt and possibly a jacket on colder days. So now that it is positioned right under my left hand and arm it is easy to draw without being slowed if
the need arises. Outside my vehicle it is more important to me that if
I have to draw i would rather draw with the gun concealed. It seems to
me that inside the vehicle it is more important to be able to rapidly access the gun if needed, so for that reason I am glad that the law was
recently changed.

[QUOTE=lrrifleman;138866280]I live in the SSRNJ, and while you can carry your shotgun openly during hunting season with a valid hunting license, forget attempting that with a handgun.

NJ is a "may issue state", and doesn't grant it's citizens the right to self defense in its constitution. Attempt to open carry or carry concealed, and you are facing felony charges. Unless you are either politically connected or a retired LEO, forget getting a CCW. QUOTE]

In fact, being the victim of domestic violence is a nearly automatic disqualifier for a purchase permit![/ I find this extremely disturbing since victims should be No.1 in line for purchase and CC permits.

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I worked in WV back in the late 1960s. I remember a similar incident. One of my employees was out somewhere carrying a rod and reel, or maybe it was in his car (I don't remember the circumstances). He was cited by a game warden for "attempting to fish without a license."

And let's keep it that way!
R.J in Phoenix

^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's sad to say....But, it's silliness like that, that puts the squirrel patrol in a bad light still today.


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Is this fact or your opinion? Some fervently argue the opposite...
As a 30-year law enforcement veteran, I've heard it happening on rare occasion, but never directly. Conversely, I have spoke with many BGs who said it was a deterrent. Not saying it hasn't happened, but it's human nature to take the path of least resistance and choose the softest target possible, and that's not usually a person packing heat.

N. C. is and has been open carry for as long as I can remember, I however for the most part carry concealed. I have purposely OC'D a couple of times with the express purpose of seeing if anyone really ever noticed or cared. I have not had any problems. I still prefer CC because it gives me the advantage of surprise if needed and does not advertise the fact that I am carrying at all.

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You can add Dollar Tree stores to the gun friendly list. My much better half works there. Last week corporate sent out an email to all their managers reminding them they respect all state laws concerning open and concealed carry. They were instructed to ignore anyone they noticed carrying and treat them like any other customer.

Here in Utah open carry has been allowed for as long as I can remember. I'm the type of person that goes with there is a time and a place. I've opened carried during hunting seasons and when hiking and riding on the deserts and hills. That t means on those trips I've opened carried when stopping for gas, a quick run into a store or maybe a while getting a meal. Never had anyone look at me sideways.

I'm not sure I get the type of person that tucks their camo cargo pants in their shiny high top black combat boots and throws a SKS over their tee shirt covered shoulder for a trip to the mall. I guess I'm not sure that is an image, as gun owners, we need. I understand the political statement but wonder if it is helping or hurting the cause. But I guess each to their own. I just think it doesn't fit my idea of the proper time and place. I would say from the number of people I've seen open carrying here in Utah most feel the same.

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It's a good thing that they didn't see the Zippo in his pocket or he would have been cited for attempted arson.

anu chance dhed give us a copy of thay emaol? Lol

[QUOTE=powrguy;138873717]Try open carry in Cincinnatti, Cleveland, or other metro areas if you wanna play that game....

Common sense, again, dictates to CC, likewise an invitation for the inner-city tribal parasites to gang up and grab a gun is only sport for the short-lived fool-hardy who "know their State Laws" and "know their RIGHTS"......

Walk the talk, or go home.

Its a regular occurence in those cities

[quote=caleb4387;138924044]So the "...inner-city tribal parasites..." gang up and grab police officers' openly carried guns a lot up there? Really?

I don't demean those who carry concealed with: "The concealed weapon is the tool of card cheats and assassins." I grow weary of those who demean open carriers as "short-lived" and "fool-hardy." I keep waiting for all the stories where open carriers have had their guns snatched by "bad guys." I've read about two (2) cases where an open carrier was robbed of his handgun by an armed robber. That's right: two (2). Hardly seems like "...a regular occurence (sic)..." to me.

Save your vitriol for those who want to take our guns.

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Boys, it make take a lit'l more than a single grain of salt....


Jest keep those cards & letters


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