.357 Revolver as a SHTF Gun? Really?

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You decide you're going to go deer hunting in an area known to have bears, mountain lions, and huge boar hogs. You know you need a quick drawn firearm on your side as a means of protection from aforementioned animals. Do you choose a .357, or, a GLOCK/M&P 9mm?
Let's see what this author thinks is appropriate. And, do you agree? Opinions?

.357 Revolver as a SHTF Gun? Really? - AllOutdoor.com
 
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Too each there own..........

50 years of roaming in Penn's Woods and I've never had a bear encounter... seen them but ....... we parted peacefully

Hunting...... I rather have my CZ 452 .22 magnum

Combat weapon reliable..... I'm going to try to avoid "combat" at all cost ...... run, hide, keep a low profile.............avoid being ambushed/sniped by some guy with a rifle......... while trying to carry on the everyday activities needed to stay alive.....

Why striker fired polymer Block????........ why not a Sig 220 or 226, Browning HP, Beretta 92 or even a bargain model S&W 915???


I'll have to make do with what I have where I am when the SHTF ; revolver or auto......9mm, .45, .357 or lowly .22lr ....maybe even ..... LOL ....... that under-powered .380 we had a long thread about recently.
 
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Disabled1 said:
You decide you're going to go deer hunting in an area known to have bears, mountain lions, and huge boar hogs. You know you need a quick drawn firearm on your side as a means of protection from aforementioned animals. Do you choose a .357, or, a GLOCK/M&P 9mm?
Let's see what this author thinks is appropriate. And, do you agree? Opinions?

.357 Revolver as a SHTF Gun? Really? - AllOutdoor.com
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First off, the linked article is about a (mythical?) SHTF situation. Some of the points apply, and some don't.

I DON'T know that I need a quick-drawn firearm on my side for protection against aforementioned animals. As the article points out, a .357 doesn't work for all of them, anyway. Nor does a plastic fantastic.

You said you are deer hunting. If you really think that you need protection against those other animals, it would make a lot more sense to up the caliber (and case capacity) of your deer rifle to something that might slow down or quickly kill the animals mentioned. If you shoot a deer with it, you will still need only one tag (my way of saying that very few cartridges will be "too much" for a deer).

Now, I would never tell you not to carry a handgun in the woods, even if you are carrying a rifle. Sometimes a rifle gets set down, or becomes otherwise unavailable. If you are worried about large, dangerous animals, carry the most powerful gun you can handle easily, whether that is .460, .44, 10mm, .357, or even 9mm. Parts availability has nothing to do with anything, unless you are carrying parts in your pocket. Most guns are pretty reliable, but maybe not after being dropped in the dirt. Then the 1911 is probably the best, and certainly detail disassmbled most easily.

Two-footed predators may be more commonly encountered in the woods than quadrupeds. You might want to plan accordingly (meaning a .45ACP, a .44 Spl or even a 9mm might be better than a .460 or a .44 Mag).
 
I do believe that the man that wrote the article let the source of his paycheck over shadow logic and common sense. Rarely will a 9mm have the metplat surface to inflict disabling shock. Second, the 9mm will not create a clean, stay open wound channel like a semi wadcutter in a revolver.

I think that the writer needs to revisit a course in logic.
 
In the authors scenario of, "in a full-blown SHTF scenario, guns are for man-killin’", then I'm a better shot at all ranges, but especially at long-range with my .357, so I'd choose it for keeping my distance from danger.
 
Disabled1 said:
You decide you're going to go deer hunting in an area known to have bears, mountain lions, and huge boar hogs. You know you need a quick drawn firearm on your side as a means of protection from aforementioned animals. Do you choose a .357, or, a GLOCK/M&P 9mm?
Let's see what this author thinks is appropriate. And, do you agree? Opinions?

.357 Revolver as a SHTF Gun? Really? - AllOutdoor.com
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While the 357 is a formidable weapon in any case. I'd much rather have a Glock 20 in the extremely powerful and utterly devastating on wild hogs 10mm. The 10mm will drop anything and more than the 357 and comes in a very reliable high capacity semi auto whereas the 357mag as far as I know in semi auto only comes in the form of the Coonan long slide with less capacity and due to the fact that the cases are rimmed, less reliability.. the 9mm is great against thin skinned critters like men, but if I run into a pissed off hog or a bear I'll be glad to be armed with a good pistol like the G20 with it's 15 rd capacity. Even bears cringe when faced with getting 15 10mm rounds poking big holes in them.
 
I think that in a true TEOTWAWKI situation (think 'The Road'), two handguns stand out in my mind as a 'if I only had one gun to do it all'.

1) Glock 17 with magazines 17-33 rounds. 9mm is ubiquitous, and the polymer frames don't require lube or cleaning. I don't like plastic pistols, and I don't own any, but that's the truth.

2) A quality 22 revolver. Ammo is plentiful and cheap, you can carry 1000s of round on you and still be mobile. While not ideal, it can keep you alive long enough so that after everyone runs out of .45acp and .357 magnum, you'll still have a gun that shoots.
 
SHTF guns are not one size fits all. The best type of weapon will vary greatly from area to area. A .22 is universal. In my neck of the woods the ideal SHTF weapon would be a 30-30 lever action (I prefer Winchester 94s). Ammo is cheap and plentiful, EVERY SINGLE HOME has one and ammo for it. It holds 7+1, and in the mountains, a shot longer than 100 yards is very rare. A 20" carbine is light and quick handling, and I shoot one almost as fast as a semi auto.
 
W.E.G. said:
This SHTF thing fills me with ennui. Or is it hubris. I always get confused about those two under stress.
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Understandable. Just like I don't carry firearms that may not work well under stress, I try also not to carry around words that might be misused under stress. I usually leave them at home in a dictionary, where they are less likely to go off accidentally, unless I just happen to be cleaning my dictionary.

Anyway, this SHTF thing bores the **** out me, too.
 
If the "S" really hits the fan.....we will all long for the days when we could spend time online arguing over which caliber kills zombies or ballistic gelatin the best....:rolleyes:

.......by the way....the .357mag is THE best for zombies!
 
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lrrifleman said:
I do believe that the man that wrote the article let the source of his paycheck over shadow logic and common sense...

I think that the writer needs to revisit a course in logic.
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That author is paid to write words and get clicks. Thankfully he isn't spamming this site like another forum I frequent.
 
I believe there is a cell phone app that is a random article generator used by these "authors"...It selects caliber, scenario, and your position. Then you have a article that supports it.

I can just picture it, writers sitting in the office....Oh no Bob, I have to defend why a .32-20 SAA is the best caliber for a convenience store owner to defend a robbery....That's nothing Dave, I have argue that a 6mm Grendel is the worst gun for a rabid coyote.

It's similar to the plot-o'matic 2000 random movie generator.
 
I agree totally with irrifleman and 44wheelman on this one. This article was written for survival. Not ours, mind you, but the author's.

You see, guys like this get paid to write articles. If the publisher doesn't like their article, the article doesn't sell. If the article doesn't sell, the author doesn't get paid. If the author doesn't get paid, he goes hungry or is forced to go work for his brother-in-law filling the soap dispensers at the local car wash.

As a result, these guys have to come up with catchy subjects that are either extremely interesting or they tweak the public's noses with some kind of controversy. Thus, the aforementioned article.

I mean, let's face it, who's going to buy an article entitled The Fun of Shooting Empty Tomato Soup Cans with a .22?

Why does he favor the Sig P239 SAS Gen 2 9mm as the ultimate SHTF gun? Simple. Because he has one.

Have you noticed that most of these so-called writers always tout a particular firearm that they just currently happen to own? I've never heard one say, "Y'know, I own a (insert particular firearm) and I think it sucks!" Of course not, they want us to believe that their opinion outweighs ours and that they only have the best.

Okay, rant over. But that's why I take the opinions of various writers with the proverbial "grain of salt.":)
 
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I think you could make a good argument for the Brown Bess as a TEOTWAWKI gun. Two hundred pounds of Kentucky cave dirt will yield a pound of saltpeter. Is there a county that doesn't have a Flint Hill? Plenty of places to mine lead. An ounce and an eight lead ball propelled by 100 grains of black powder will make a frightful hole.
 
old tanker said:
I think you could make a good argument for the Brown Bess as a TEOTWAWKI gun. Two hundred pounds of Kentucky cave dirt will yield a pound of saltpeter. Is there a county that doesn't have a Flint Hill? Plenty of places to mine lead. An ounce and an eight lead ball propelled by 100 grains of black powder will make a frightful hole.
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I'd at least want a Pennyslvania Long Rifle over a Brown Bess musket.

:D hey something new to argue/debate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Sixty years ago we would go to the hardware store and say give me a box
of 38s. They would give us .38 Spl. 158-gr. round nose lead. Not a lot
of choices. If you ran into a bear that needed killin, the 38 would do the
job if you could shoot straight enough. If you couldn't shoot straight,
better stay home. Fortunately most black bears are more afraid of us
than we are of them. The big brown ones up north are a totally different
story.
 
BAM-BAM said:
Too each there own..........

50 years of roaming in Penn's Woods and I've never had a bear encounter... seen them but ....... we parted peacefully

Hunting...... I rather have my CZ 452 .22 magnum

Combat weapon reliable..... I'm going to try to avoid "combat" at all cost ...... run, hide, keep a low profile.............avoid being ambushed/sniped by some guy with a rifle......... while trying to carry on the everyday activities needed to stay alive.....

Why striker fired polymer Block????........ why not a Sig 220 or 226, Browning HP, Beretta 92 or even a bargain model S&W 915???


I'll have to make do with what I have where I am when the SHTF ; revolver or auto......9mm, .45, .357 or lowly .22lr ....maybe even ..... LOL ....... that under-powered .380 we had a long thread about recently.
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You missed this thread


http://smith-wessonforum.com/concea...380-good-open-carry.html?highlight=open+carry
 
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