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Concealed Carry Jackets
Looking at getting a concealed carry jacket with internal holster as a Xmas gift. I see that there are many brands that offer these Rothco, Cinch, Roper, Undertech, Etc. I have been reviewing these and most have good and bad points. I like the look of the Rothco lightweight but the pistol holding pocket looks cheap and some have stated that their pistol had fallen out as they bent over. I also like the Undertech Phantom but with so many negative reviews for that company makes me hesitant to place an order with them. Any suggestions and comments appreciated.
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I have the jacket NRA sells.
Pretty decent.
I don't do disco back flips, so haven't had my pistol (3953) go flying:
NRA Concealed Carry Denim Jacket Official Store of the National Rifle Association
NRA logo is very discrete, embossed buttons.
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You might check these models out........
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My CC jacket is a Carhart but have others too but design matters little as my handgun still on my hip at 3:00 . MY wife has a scotte vest . Nice holder of every thing a business person could need but even my wife wears her pistol still .
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I had a number of concealed carry vests, including a couple that were lightweight and a couple that were heavier for cooler weather. All high quality, some major brands, some not. No pun intended but as much as I liked the vests overall I never could warm up to them for concealed carry. The concealment was fantastic but the location of the guns, on either side, was too far away and, as I recall, they all were sealed with "Velcro" type material and made that awful ripping sound when you wanted to get in to retrieve the gun. So I just kept my guns on my person, belt or pocket, and that was that.
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Thanks for the replies. Thinking of a Berne Echo One with the adder system.
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I have a nine line jacket, very warm and carries my gun really well. It is owned by veterans.
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I live in New England and I like the Berne Echo One. It's a coat, not a light weight jacket.
Here's a link to a video that demonstrates this coat.
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I have a nine line jacket, very warm and carries my gun really well. It is owned by veterans.
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Thanks so much for the link. Just ordered their lightweight CC jacket. Always happy to buy from a veteran owned business.
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That Bernie Echo One sure looks like his whole right leg is the target on the way to pointing forward.
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I've tried a couple of the vests with built in pocket/holsters...... for me it seemed like I needed to a "counter weight" to the off side to get it to balance.
FWIW ..... for me...... winter outdoor carry I will go from behind the right hip to a horizontal shoulder rig ......all I have to do is zip down and reach into the
jacket grab the butt and hit the thumb break. 2 extra mags on the off side balance the rig....... and the coat/jacked anchors the whole rig in place.
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One thing few people don’t consider is what to do when you are in a restaurant (for example) and have to remove your jacket. I normally go to the restroom and transfer the gun to my pants pocket.
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I just wear whatever jacket is appropriate for the weather- they all conceal a handgun in my belt holster just fine. Then if I sit down to eat somewhere and hang my jacket on the back of the chair, my sidearm is still where I left it. Pocket? How are you going to draw from a pocket in a sitting position?
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Anyone know of an athletic-style vest that could be worn while riding a bicycle? I'm thinking a hi-vis vest like construction workers wear.
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The way one carries is a personal choice. Each of us has his or her reasons justifying our decisions.
Having carried concealed for over 25 years and tried some alternate methods, I find myself most comfortable sticking with the KISS principle: same gun, same place, nearly all the time.
When I have to vary my chosen routine, it is with the same basic gun but a smaller version, concealed in the same place but a little “deeper”.
I carry a FS M&P AIWB ~85% of the time. The variation is a Shield in Thunderwear 15% of the time.
I find no problem concealing or accessing these locations, even one-handed. When I wear a winter coat, I leave it undone in the front and the warm wool shirt under it is my concealing garment. If I have to zip up the coat, mine has the double zipper that unzips from the bottom also. I unzip the bottom about 1/3 the way—which also makes it easier to move/sit—and can access the concealed secured gun easily, even while seated.
I have not found any useful advantage to carrying in a pocket, especially in a coat, jacket or vest. I suppose if I had to stay bundled up really tightly the idea of dropping a short barreled revolver in an outside pocket might seem attractive, but even in Utah winters I have not found this necessary.
I post this opinion only to help those considering coat carry to study it out thoroughly. I think there are many drawbacks. The challenges of waist mounted carry with a coat in belt mounted positions other than AIWB complicate the decision, but it is one more advantage to AIWB for consistent, secure, accessible, simple concealed carry.
I’m not trying to hijack the thread—just pointing out that carry decisions that complicate what you carry and how tend to increase complexity, require more training, and may actually put you at a disadvantage when you need your gun quickly.
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Not a vest but...
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Anyone know of an athletic-style vest that could be worn while riding a bicycle? I'm thinking a hi-vis vest like construction workers wear.
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I have an Active Pro jogging conceal carry holster. The large fits my 4" FNS40 perfectly. You can carry your cell phone ID and a few keys in the front pouch.
The Original Jogger Concealment Holster - Active Pro Gear
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Thanks for the replies. Thinking of a Berne Echo One with the adder system.
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I have both the Berne coat and the vest. I'm very happy with both. The coat is very heavy, so I only wear it when the temp gets below 20 degrees. Higher than that, the vest is plenty warm, as long as you don't mind your arms exposed.
I purchased inexpensive suede holsters that I attached via Velcro to each one on the weak side for cross-draw, as I felt this was more comfortable for me. I also bought a couple of cheap elastic that I attached via Velcro to the strong side for reloads. I'm very happy with the results.
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I wish! I'm in Southern FL and I can't wear any kind of jacket more than maybe 7 days total out of the year.
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I just wear whatever jacket is appropriate for the weather- they all conceal a handgun in my belt holster just fine. Then if I sit down to eat somewhere and hang my jacket on the back of the chair, my sidearm is still where I left it. Pocket? How are you going to draw from a pocket in a sitting position?
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This exactly.
I'm sitting in a tire shop right now getting a vehicle inspection. It's perfect weather for my western style leather vest which goes just fine with my western boots, blue jeans and hat. That vest is covering a 2 1/2" 686+ in an OWB holster with the gun at about 3:30.
When the weather is colder I can wear a different vest, or a jacket over this vest or if I will be in an out with and without a cover garment, I can either use a tuckable holster and a tucked shirt, or a long sleeve T shirt that looks entirely normal to have untucked.
My preference is to use an OWB holster and then regular, non conspicuous clothing to conceal it.
For the beach where it's hard to carry a .357 in a swim suit, I have a tactical fanny pack. The main problem is that they all look like tactical fanny packs. I partly address that by ironing on an Orca patch. Now I look like a normal tree hugger at the beach, and I only look like an armed tree hugger if you look past the Orca and see the 5.11 fanny pack for what it is.
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I am not enamored of concealed carry jackets. First, I would definitely NOT get one that was branded with a brand name like "Cinch"==screams out "Shoot me first!", just like a fanny pack! Secondly, I carry one of two Glocks=A G43 that fits in my Wranglers front pocket and doesn't print or a G27 (converted to 357 Sig) in an IWB. If cold weather, I have a Pendleton blanket coat (reversible) that was made by Kraffs here on the Rez and either sidearm fits in the side pocket. Same with my Columbia parks. Cool weather, a Carhartt flannel shirt or a Pendleton wool shirt suffices. Summertime a golf shirt or loose western shirt suffices with the IWB.
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I am not enamored of concealed carry jackets. First, I would definitely NOT get one that was branded with a brand name like "Cinch"==screams out "Shoot me first!", just like a fanny pack! Secondly, I carry one of two Glocks=A G43 that fits in my Wranglers front pocket and doesn't print or a G27 (converted to 357 Sig) in an IWB. If cold weather, I have a Pendleton blanket coat (reversible) that was made by Kraffs here on the Rez and either sidearm fits in the side pocket. Same with my Columbia parks. Cool weather, a Carhartt flannel shirt or a Pendleton wool shirt suffices. Summertime a golf shirt or loose western shirt suffices with the IWB.
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bearbio,
Cinch is a clothing brand.......
Cinch Clothing & Apparel - Sheplers
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Exactly. It's like Berne. They have a full line of high quality work clothing
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I am not enamored of concealed carry jackets. First, I would definitely NOT get one that was branded with a brand name like "Cinch"==screams out "Shoot me first!", just like a fanny pack!
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How many of the thousands upon thousands of people wearing fanny packs, photographer vests, tactical pants, CC jackets, NRA hats, etc every moment of every day have been or are being shot first?
I'll give you a hint; it starts with a Z and ends with an ero.
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I know Cinch is a brand=But it denotes concealed carry==kinda defeats the meaning of "concealed".
"I'll give you a hint; it starts with a Z and ends with an ero. "
Masood Ayoob disagrees with you as did the late Jeff Cooper (I have talked to Mas and knew Jeff Cooper from the old Southwest Pistol League at Baldwin Lake).
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I have a 5.11 brand heavy fleece jacket that is about 12 years old (still carried by Galls, I believe) that looks pretty ordinary on the outside, but has a deep, heavy duty gun pocket with Velcro closure on the left, inside breast.
When I don't feel like wearing a belt holster, it carries a smaller handgun comfortably and securely. Think Glock 26 in a thin pocket holster. Add the LCP that is almost always in my pants pocket, and it is a system that works well in colder weather.
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I went with a bright colored Biking Jersey, and carry a LCR w/laser in the water bottle pocket in the right rear. It prints big time, But Ohio law is OK with that! Open carry is legal, CC is legal, both at the same time isn't a problem either. It is obvious only if you look for it! Several LEO's have seen me on the trail and in restaurants, nobody has said a word.
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I know Cinch is a brand=But it denotes concealed carry==kinda defeats the meaning of "concealed".
"I'll give you a hint; it starts with a Z and ends with an ero. "
Masood Ayoob disagrees with you as did the late Jeff Cooper (I have talked to Mas and knew Jeff Cooper from the old Southwest Pistol League at Baldwin Lake).
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I think the OP was just asking about jackets for concealed carry.
Not an urban myth nor conjecture on CCW apparel.
If one is so concerned about being shot first for their choice of wear.....Don't ever put on the Badge.
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I have a coupla jackets with inside pockets. I just put a pocket holster in there and use that to hold my snubby.
Don't need to get a specialty garment.
Usually I just carry my snubby on my belt, owb.
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I wear a fanny pack in the front or side, to carry gun, phone, wallet, money, etc. Works well for me
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Anyone know of an athletic-style vest that could be worn while riding a bicycle? I'm thinking a hi-vis vest like construction workers wear.
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I try to do 20 miles 3x per week, work and weather permitting.
I use a fanny pack most days for gun wallet and phone.
I've also been known to carry a Kimber Micro in one of the pockets on my Camel Back.
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How many of the thousands upon thousands of people wearing fanny packs, photographer vests, tactical pants, CC jackets, NRA hats, etc every moment of every day have been or are being shot first?
I'll give you a hint; it starts with a Z and ends with an ero. 
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I don't how many have or haven't been shot, but I won't wear the "I carry a gun" type clothing or gear either. I want to blend in, not stand out.
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I've looked at hundreds of those on line, dozens in person, and even put quite a few of them on and stuck my gun in them. I even own one.
I wouldn't buy another or give an extra nickle for one because it calls it's self a CCW jacket.
IMO, it's all hokem. I'll carry in my holster just like any other time I carry.
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I paid over $100 for a CCW Jacket. Not really much of a jacket. Unsuitable for cold weather. I have several other jackets much more suitable, lots of pockets to carry ID, wallet and cellphone but use a leather IWB Signature holster made by Kusiak, it is also tuckable.
Much smaller that my other Foxx and Alien Gear holsters. I don't like a pistol carried in a pocket, of either a coat or jacket. Too easy to snag the sight when drawing. I carry cross draw IWB. It works great under either a light sweater, vest or jacket. I don't really like to carry 'tucked' but there are times when it is necessary, if you need to remove a jacket or coat and are not wearing either a vest or sweater.
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My old Levi denim jacket with inside pockets has been working for years. Wrangler jackets will work too. Although they don't go well with a suit and tie they fit in with my everyday attire.
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About 3 years ago I bought the Undertech. Here in the Southwest desert it is generally too warm to wear it. A few days ago i tried it out and was quite pleased with it. It has an excellent velcro system (bilateral) for carrying a CCW, many pockets also. Fortunately I ordered the Xtra Large, since ordering online, you can't try it on. It carries comfortably, similar to a shoulder holster. Very attractive jacket as well.
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