Iowa passes Constitutional Carry

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biku324 said:
Just remember, that means EVERYONE. Drug dealers and gang members alike.
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Are you telling me that NM gives these folks a pass?

If I caught someone here in Oregon open carrying (legal pretty much statewide here, no permit required) and they had a possession prohibiting conviction, restraining order, or were in the act of committing a variety of other crimes, they'd be arrested for being in illegal possession of a firearm. Though open carry is generally legal, doing so doesn't negate the fact that they were prohibited from being in possession to begin with.
 
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I am sure that in Iowa, that if you have a felony record or any of the things that would keep you from getting a permit in most states your prohibited for concealed carry.

There is a clause in Montana's law that states it only applies to a person eligible to possess a firearm under state or federal law.

I have a permit and I am sure it would be worthless if I was carrying both a gun and drugs. I know it is worthless if I am intoxicated.
 
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In fact here is Iowas new law and if you will go to sections 17 and 18 you will see that persons who would normally be ineligible to have guns or get a permit are not allowed to carry them and their information is in the system for LEO access.

Iowa Legislature - BillBook

So, no of course it does not cover criminals and drug dealers. In most shall issue states I can not see how you could legally withhold a permit from someone based on their associations. (gangs) I am sure if they denied a gang member with a clean criminal record a good lawyer could have fun with it in court. A 4473 certainly doesn't ask if you belong to a gang
 
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I live in Iowa and have a permit to carry. We can openly carry or carry concealed. The new law is for carrying in Iowa ONLY! That's why I will continue to renew my permit every 5 years so that I can carry legally in States that recognize an Iowa permit!
 
ASA335 said:
Are you telling me that NM gives these folks a pass?

If I caught someone here in Oregon open carrying (legal pretty much statewide here, no permit required) and they had a possession prohibiting conviction, restraining order, or were in the act of committing a variety of other crimes, they'd be arrested for being in illegal possession of a firearm. Though open carry is generally legal, doing so doesn't negate the fact that they were prohibited from being in possession to begin with.
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Nope. But many, many gangsters and street dealers have no felony convictions and could legally carry under a law like Iowa's.

As I've also mentioned before, nothing in my life experience leads me to believe that most people have the requisite legal information, judgement, and will that serious armed carry.requires. I know that angers some folks here, but what I've seen is what I've seen.
 
biku324 said:
Nope. But many, many gangsters and street dealers have no felony convictions and could legally carry under a law like Iowa's.

As I've also mentioned before, nothing in my life experience leads me to believe that most people have the requisite legal information, judgement, and will that serious armed carry.requires. I know that angers some folks here, but what I've seen is what I've seen.
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Here in the USA, every non-felon has that right, whether you "think" they should or not.

If that level of individual liberty scares you or makes you nervous, this may not be the country for you.
 
biku324 said:
As I said, my view angers some here.
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Indeed...illustrated by some of the snark aimed at you. While I may not agree with your view, your concerns are legitimate. Here in my state, arrest record expungement is all the rage. This includes expunging felony records, the result being yesterdays felon being today's legal gun carrier. And before this thread runs its course, how many members that will will criticize you here have also lamented in other threads all the "new gun owners" buying plastic guns and not taking what they consider adequate training?
 
dockmurgw said:
Indeed...illustrated by some of the snark aimed at you. While I may not agree with your view, your concerns are legitimate. Here in my state, arrest record expungement is all the rage. This includes expunging felony records, the result being yesterdays felon being today's legal gun carrier. And before this thread runs its course, how many members that will will criticize you here have also lamented in other threads all the "new gun owners" buying plastic guns and not taking what they consider adequate training?
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Most gun people don't agree with expunging criminal records. Also, most don't lament new gun owners or not taking training.

All those things are done by anti-gunners usually.

Now the plastic gun thing: that is debatable. :)
 
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