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It's 2021: Let's park those EDC revolvers and get serious

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It's time to air it out. I've been swimming upstream on this in many other threads.

ALMOST ALL WHO CARRY REVOLVERS FOR PERSONAL DEFENSE SHOULD PARK THEM AND GO SEMI-AUTO

1. If there ever was any reliability difference, modern autos such as HK, Glock, M&P have closed the gap. Revolvers aren't perfect and autos aren't jam-a-matics.

2. A semi auto the same size and weight or smaller than a EDC revolver carries many more rounds. My P365 carries 10+1 with its smallest magazine. Your j-frame carries 5. My G19 carries 15+1. Your 642 carries 5. Your revolver will run out of ammo in seconds, while my G19 or G17 is still laying down the fire. And in three seconds I can jam in my spare G17 mag which carries 17 more. Which leads us to --

3. Everybody talks about the speed loader and the speed strip, but it's mostly hooey. No troll, just fact. Yeah, you can get fairly good at reloading in your bedroom, or on the one-way shooting range. I dare you to try it when sprinting for cover, rolling underneath a car. Has anybody ever successfully reloaded in a short range shootout? You fumble, you die. "But Jerry Michulek . . . " You ain't Jerry, and even he's not getting shot at when he does his thing. That's why Cirillo & Co. of the stakeout squad carried several revolvers for New York reloads. But I could jam a fresh mag into the G19 and rack it fast while running, hiding, etc. if i had to. Much, much easier. (If an infirmity precludes semis, I'd carry three j-frames).

4. Not relevant in urban carry, but out in the sticks? Drop your 686 in the mud. It's locked up; good luck getting it running again. Drop a Glock or M&P in the mud. Strip it, rinse it out in a stream or pond, reassemble, and you're good. Even better if you drip some oil or ATF off your jeep's dipstick for lube. It'll work just fine.

5. Durability? My 686 is one of Smith's flagship guns, and an excellent gun it is. But let's buy two pallet loads of ammo, one .357, one 9mm, and do an endurance test against my G17. No fiddling, just occasional oil. Anybody want to bet who cries uncle first?

6. Cost. Pre-panic, I paid $725 for a new 686, the going rate. They went up in the Panic, if you could even find one. I paid $600 this spring for a G17.5. Money left over for a stash of magazines. You want to price .357 ammo vs. 9mm?

7. Thugs used to be mostly solo rogues. Now they tend to travel in packs: crews of carjackers, smash-and-grabbers, juggers. You're in a cell phone store: three thugs come in, all appear to be armed. Or you're changing a tire on a two lane road and a carload of thugs stops to look you over . . . . you want your j-frame or my G19? In those foreseeable situations, the j-frame guy is essentially unarmed.

So here it is: The DA revolver, even with modern refinements, still has its uses, but EDC for saving your life isn't one of them. Park it and get a quality concealable semi-auto, of which there are many excellent examples.

Semis beat out revolvers for military use a hundred years ago, and for law enforcement use in the 1980s. It's time we EDCers caught up. It's your life.
 
Better idea: It's 2021, (soon to be 2022) so let's just accept the fact that there is no such thing as an ideal one-size-fits-all firearm for self-defense in any given role, that folks come in all different shapes, sizes, mindsets, etc, that what works best for me or you doesn't necessarily work as well for everybody else, and cool it with all the condescending couch commando rhetoric?

Happy Holidays!
 
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Better idea: It's 2021, (soon to be 2022) so let's just accept the fact that there is no such thing as an ideal one-size-fits-all firearm for self-defense in any given role, that folks come in all different shapes, sizes, mindsets, etc, that works best for me or you doesn't necessarily work as well for everybody else, and cool it with all the condescending couch commando rhetoric?

Happy Holidays!

Right on,;) Right on!!
 
Great points. But, in the words of the downtown shoe salesman, "One size don't fits evabody."

I live in a booming metropolis (tongue in cheek) of 1,200 people. When you look up the demographics of our community on Google and look under the title "Crime Rate," it shows in big letters, "N/A."

When I'm horseback, I carry a single-action. Why? Simple. If I'm shooting a semi-auto, and I happen to discharge it while horseback, one is automatically put in the chamber after I fire a round. If I'm on a horse or mule that decides to go whack-o at that particular time, I sure as heck don't want a firearm in my hand that has a live round in the tube ready to go off. I'm sure you can understand that.

Years ago, when I was "playing cowboy," the ranch where I worked was in heavily populated black bear country. We were in the hills and heavy timber on horseback almost everyday. Our foreman encouraged us to carry single-action revolvers...not only for the reason I stated above, but because a double-action has a tendency not to work when grit gets in it. Not so much with a single-action.

Sure, I can definitely see the advantage of a semi-auto when faced with some of the situations you described, but so far, at least where I live, the most dangerous thugs I've had to face were a couple coyotes after my neighbor's calves.

Now, if I lived in town (which I don't), or worked in town (which I don't), or heck...even if I went to town often (which I don't), I'd probably reconsider. But, again, like the old shoe salesman says, "One size don't fits evabody.":)

However, I am curious. I realize my situation is kinda out of the norm, but of the 6,407 active members of this forum, how many of us have actually been in shoot outs where we've needed a 15-round semi-auto pistol with a 30-round reload?:confused:
 
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Gosh, maybe I'll be hosed with gunfire from 'them,' or maybe 'they.'

iu
 
I laugh quietly when I read where folks are EDCing more gear than I did working as a patrol officer or narcotics. Saw a cat in Panda Express OCing a G19 with 33 rd mag. But hey , if that’s what makes em happy...
 
I’m convinced.

I’ll ditch my itty-bitty revolver, but I’m not going to do this halfway. I’ll be carrying a rifle.

Why would anybody carry a handgun when things are so dangerous out there?

You may not buy this, but I made it safely to a church service, then lunch at a steakhouse, then a to convenience store this morning and WAS NOT ARMED!!!
 
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I had an older gentleman call me because he bought some of our 22lr Ammo for his EDC that he uses while serving as a member of his church’s security team. His complaint that a few rounds out of 500 didn’t fire and he required that his ammunition work 100% of time. I told him I understood his concern...
 
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Eh. No thanks.
I've done my time in a blue suit carrying two guns, radio, ammunition, vest, etc, etc. Got the divot in my hip, 6 or 7 ruptured discs with pinched nerves to match and 4 artificial joints (for now) from all that weight plus a few thousand miles of driving beat up cars with broken seats. No brag at all, just the ugly, painful truth.
But I'm not giving up carrying a gun whenever and wherever I want, so honestly, I carry whatever my pain level for the day lets me, Airweight Chief, 3913, Walther PPS, whatever. Again, no brag, just being serious. Policing is like decades at the linebacker position. I did my time staying ready for the next invasion. It's y'all's turn, OP. Good luck and quit mainlining Red Bull, FGS. :D
 
advise

thank you so much for the advise. but might i suggest, you carry what you will and i will do the same. you couldn't possibly think that the majority of folks on here that read your post would be impressed enough to go semi. thanks again. krs:)
 

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