It's 2021: Let's park those EDC revolvers and get serious

[Llance]

The average soldier of WWII was 5'3" tall, today the average is more like5'6". So how do I choose which is right for me? Do I carry a Glock (if i wanted a brick to carry around I'd go to a brick yard) because truth be, I hate the looks of 'em, regardless of how well they work? Or a Sig, or a Colt, or a Smith, or some other 9mm, or 10mm, or gawd forbid, a .45 when all I think I need is a .32 revolver, or semi-auto with 7+1.

I spent a goodly number of years in the service and OP, I don't need your 10-19 rounds to do what I need doing. If my 8 isn't enough then why am I in that location in the first place. If it means I'm dead after my 5 or 8, or however many I get with my EDC, then I'm dead and it is what and when I'm supposed to go sit in my own purgatory. Dead isn't so bad when living is filled with so much strife as we now have in our lives.

Don't misunderstand I'm not trying to rush the process, but really, if that's when I'm meant to take a long-distance trip from which I can't return, oh well, that's my time. What if, with all your firepower, some AH sneaks up behind you and shoves one into your cranial cavity? All you have done is provided them with some extra reloads.

See, it's not the dying that bothers me, it's the pain I might have to live with if I don't die, or the pain I experience in the dying that bothers me.

 

[sigp220.45]

We get it. Give it a rest.

 

[Beemerguy53]

When the Maryland State Police got rid of their wheelguns, back in the 1980s, I asked my brother how he liked his new Beretta 92. He told me if he couldn't hit what he was shooting at with six rounds from a revolver, he shouldn't be a police officer...

 

[Darkenfast]

Univibe, you have stated in other threads that you want to be able to lay down a suppressive stream of fire against your attackers. You have also stated that you carry 9mm NATO (the Winchester load), which is definitely over-penetrative.

I think you are a crime waiting to happen.

I've noticed that many of the forum members who post about carrying handguns such as the J-frame are retired law enforcement officers. They have decades of hard service. They know what they are talking about. They know how to evaluate their situations and make logical and ethical decisions about how to be armed in their real world. They aren't "Walter Mitty" types.

Now, please enlighten us: tell us about your qualifications and professional firearms career history that allows you to advocate laying down suppressive fire with FMJ ammunition in your community.

 

[petepeterson]

Why would you care what gun someone else carries?

There it is.
Not only do I not care what anyone else chooses, but I would prefer that no one chooses to carry at all, other than me.

I generally carry a P365 when I'm out and about because to me, it makes sense when you compare it to my 442, which would be the comparable carry revolver. I can't say I feel more or less "safe", though.

 

[Heinz]

I do not know how some folks get by without a flamethrower.

 

[rogerwnuss]

Univibe, you have stated in other threads that you want to be able to lay down a suppressive stream of fire against your attackers. You have also stated that you carry 9mm NATO (the Winchester load), which is definitely over-penetrative.

I think you are a crime waiting to happen.

I've noticed that many of the forum members who post about carrying handguns such as the J-frame are retired law enforcement officers. They have decades of hard service. They know what they are talking about. They know how to evaluate their situations and make logical and ethical decisions about how to be armed in their real world. They aren't "Walter Mitty" types.

Now, please enlighten us: tell us about your qualifications and professional firearms career history that allows you to advocate laying down suppressive fire with FMJ ammunition in your community.

Grenades. I want grenades.......
Like Col. Cooper, I "do not favor the Glocks method of ignition".....or its atrocious grip angle .....or it's stupid useless trigger safety flippy lever that does absolutely nothing worthwhile. And call me old fashioned, but I like an external hammer so I can see what's going on.
No hammer, no safety, and a 3.5 lb. trigger. What could go wrong........if I had to go to an automatic, it'd be a P series Sig. 228 or 226......decocker , then DA first round. That in itself is a kind of safety. Or, come to think of it, a 5906 etc. Same idea.....
Full disclosure: I had been carrying an LCP 380 and am now carrying a SA 911-basically a Sig 238 clone- in my right front pants pocket because I'm well, lazy. My winter coat pocket gun, however, has been a m36 up to now, but this year will be a newly acquired 642-1 in right pocket, three speedloaders in the left. And might still carry that 911 380 in an inside coat pocket anyway.......since I can't get them grenades......

 

[MetalMan]

Eh. No thanks.
I've done my time in a blue suit carrying two guns, radio, ammunition, vest, etc, etc. Got the divot in my hip, 6 or 7 ruptured discs with pinched nerves to match and 4 artificial joints (for now) from all that weight plus a few thousand miles of driving beat up cars with broken seats. No brag at all, just the ugly, painful truth.
But I'm not giving up carrying a gun whenever and wherever I want, so honestly, I carry whatever my pain level for the day lets me, Airweight Chief, 3913, Walther PPS, whatever. Again, no brag, just being serious. Policing is like decades at the linebacker position. I did my time staying ready for the next invasion. It's y'all's turn, OP. Good luck and quit mainlining Red Bull, FGS.

....and many, many "thank yous" for your service!!!!

 

[Muss Muggins]

Duly noted . . .

Edit. You answered your own question in your second sentence . . .

It's time to air it out. I've been swimming upstream on this in many other threads . . .

 

[stansdds]

I say, to each his (or her) own. You carry whatever you shoot well and can comfortably carry. I also say, in before the lock.

 

[steelslaver]

LOL
I live in a town of 6000, the nearest larger city is over 100 miles away by 2 lane rd. . I have been here 12 years and there has been one murder (not random) and 0 armed robberies in that time. Cars are left with the keys in the all the time, yet only one was reported stolen last year. I am far more apt to run into a bear, a moose, a wolf or a cougar, than a violent criminal.

If I HAD to live in a city and it had a high crime rate I might chose different, but I double guarantee you it would not be a 9mm

 

[M29since14]

You may not buy this, but I made it safely to a church service, then lunch at a steakhouse, then a to convenience store this morning and WAS NOT ARMED!!!

I do that sort of thing a lot. Been doing it for years, in fact, most of my life. The most dangerous thing I always have on my person is a Swiss Army knife. I can’t imagine lugging around the usual plastic nine and two extra magazines, but as has been said, whatever…

I think Mr. Univibe is having a little fun poking the bears. Some of us wake up and growl a little bit, and he likes that.

 

[BAM-BAM]

OP makes me Given his past posts...... I'm surprised he didn't suggest the need for soft body armor anytime you leave home in these troubled times!!


If the OP is happy with his Sig 365 and 17rd spare mag..... I'm happy for him!!

I live in a quiet "Burb of the Burgh"; most weekends find me in the rural farm land and woods of the Laurel Highlands of Penn's Woods.

Even in these troubling times; my risk assessment allows me to feel adequately armed with my EDC since 1990 a S&W 3913NL with a flush fit 7rd magazine....... being a bit paranoid I've started carrying 2 spare mags in my Milt Sparks double mag pouch I bought about 30 years ago when I was living and working inside the city limits of a "larger" Pa City. Out in Penn's Woods I'm happy with a 3" 60-10 or 66 and a couple of reloads.

I appreciate OP and others sharing their thoughts and advice.... but we each need to do our own personal assessment, and hopefully, make right decision for our needs and life style.

 

[Oldfrt]

It would get mighty tiring carrying all those lawyers, I will stick with the slow precision of my 460V with the 250 grain FTX's in 45 long loaded to super red hawk levels. If 5 ain't enough then I shouldn't be there. But usually all I carry is a cane, because 5 lawyers gets heavy as well.

 

[diyj98]

Auto jam, revolvers, fail. I won't risk my life or my family's on a firearm. A good sword won't fail. They also don't need reloading. That's why I carry a sword with me at all times. Sure people stare when I go to Walmart, but if the fecal material ever hits the air flow device, I'm ready to slice and dice!

 

[Baltimoreed11754]

Interesting thread, op’s s little heavy handed. Guess he wears body armor too. As a fairly active 70 year old [shot a 150 rd ZSA match Saturday, will shoot a cas match next weekend] my edc has evolved to either a scandium J frame or a lightweight Colt Mustang. Either works for me. And don’t call me shirley.

 

[Grayfox]

Now, please enlighten us: tell us about your qualifications and professional firearms career history that allows you to advocate laying down suppressive fire with FMJ ammunition in your community.

A valid question. Please do enlighten us.
Oh! You're a Glockophile! Yeah, perfection and all that. We get it.

 

[waffles]

I dont disagree on any particular point, and have definitely stepped into the mess of threads where people want to stir the pot or try to argue some desperate claim that revolvers are still superior.

It's just as pointless the other way though. A guy with a j frame isn't unarmed, he's still got five more shots than almost everybody else, who almost all make it through life fine without being murdered, even in the big scary cities that occupy the minds of people on here. Having a gun at all is a huge advantage in the very rare situation that any of us will need one, and it'd be a rarer situation still that we're in an actual gunfight.

I carry a P365XL, not because I felt unarmed with a J frame, but because it's a better carry option in every way without a downside. I'll tell any friend who is new to carry that a P365 or P365XL, or the Glock equivalents, are the way to go and not to bother with revolvers except as something cool to shoot. I'm not going to bother telling people I know who already carry revolvers, it never gets anywhere and it really doesn't matter.

 

[max503]

There's a time and a place for everything. 99% of the time and place a J frame works for me.

Actually, I commend the OP for airing his thoughts. That's what we come here for, right? If I lived 35 miles south of where I do I might consider his suggestions. But I don't so I won't.

 

[pharmer]

April 1 already? Time flies. Joe