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This little rifle has always been interesting to me. I've never seen another quite like it. I've seen some single shot 22s marked Savage/Anschutz, but this one is marked: J.G. Anschutz GmbH Waffenbrik Ulm/Germany. It seems to be a quality made gun. Would any of you have one like it, or any information regarding it? Thanks in advance, Greg.
 
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I am going to make a stab it is a restocked 98 Trainer, or a post war trainer of some type given the configuration of the rear sight.
 
I don't think it has been restocked, I've seen a couple on the auction sites over the years.

There a couple of very similar ones on GunBroker now, one in 9mm and another in 6mm.
 
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They usually go for around 200 US$ over here in Europe.
You can check on egun.de (change language to english and use the seach function for ANSCHÜTZ - I found some 9 pages full of Anschütz weapons and acessories)
 
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I once handled a very similar one chambered in 9mm smooth bore. Was called a Garden Gun.

I currently have two Savage-Anschutz, a sporter and a 1407 54 ISU match rifle, and previously had an early lightweight target rifle. Can't be beat for accuracy. Both are mid 70's vintage. Savage was the Importer at that time.
 
I once handled a very similar one chambered in 9mm smooth bore. Was called a Garden Gun.

I currently have two Savage-Anschutz, a sporter and a 1407 54 ISU match rifle, and previously had an early lightweight target rifle. Can't be beat for accuracy. Both are mid 70's vintage. Savage was the Importer at that time.
I've seen several garden guns, but I just can't find any 22 rifles like it.
 
I have a very similar one. Markings on the barrel ahead of the rear sight "J.G.Anschutz Germaniawaffenwerk A.G. Zella - Melis/Thur. Then behind the sight is "Original JGA Karabiner. Barrel is marked left side of barrel ahead of receiver" cal. 22 long rifle. Top of forward receiver marked with fancy J over G over A in a double line circle. Ser is, 487517. Schnable forend with grooves in stock and a steel
plain buttplate. Barrel is 23 1/2".
 
I have a very similar one. Markings on the barrel ahead of the rear sight "J.G.Anschutz Germaniawaffenwerk A.G. Zella - Melis/Thur. Then behind the sight is "Original JGA Karabiner. Barrel is marked left side of barrel ahead of receiver" cal. 22 long rifle. Top of forward receiver marked with fancy J over G over A in a double line circle. Ser is, 487517. Schnable forend with grooves in stock and a steel
plain buttplate. Barrel is 23 1/2".
Mine has no buttplate, save for grooves cut into the stock butt. Yours appears to have more writing on it than mine. I don't believe mine has a serial number. I did learn that they moved the factory to Ulm Germany after WWII; 1950 I believe. Yours is probably older than mine.
 
I recently purchased an Anschutz Match 54.... very heavy.. #86432, how can I find out more information about this rifle?
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Vince
 
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hey there, sorry to revive this old post but i was wondering if you ever found what model that little 22 was, i actually just bought one that looks exactly the same 2 days ago and this post is the first one i see with one that looks like mine ..

any info could help !
 
hey there, sorry to revive this old post but i was wondering if you ever found what model that little 22 was, i actually just bought one that looks exactly the same 2 days ago and this post is the first one i see with one that looks like mine ..

any info could help !

The rifle is a simple Anschütz sporter that is built with the very simple first Flobert action. It uses a moveable loading tray that does double duty as the extractor. There is no model designation, it from a time when gun models were not numbered.

I have a Mannlicher version with a DST.
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The OP rifle is a very common design. .22rf is common, but 6mmrf and others were made.

Made in pre-WW2 Europe, it was sold under the Anschutz name (I assume they made it) and you see a large number of them with the GECO name on them, German retailer Gustoff Genschow (sp?)

The former are sometimes marked Original Karbiner,,the latter were sold with Model names such as 1919, 1921, ect. Genschow was not a mfg'r, so maybe Anschutz made theirs also.

Old print ads from the era show up with them.
Some were made in Belgium also even with the FN marking on them.
Sort them out by proof marks. The pre-War German will have such as proof marks. Then change to the Nazi era marks as they were made into the early 40's.
Lots of variations in stocks, markings, trigger guards, forend tips or lack or them,,same with butt plates. Sights vary.
The action is pretty much standard with the 1/2 moon extractor doubling as the ejector..
Those Mosin Nagant single shot 22 Training Rifle that were imported a few years back (Polish made?) used the same design in it's action.

I have an Anschutz 22LR plain rifle, stamped steel trigger guard and steel butt plate that my father brought back from German after WW2. It is Eagle/N proofed (nazi era). He said they picked it up out of a pile of guns that were destoyed by running over them with their tanks in a village.
It and a leather bag of .22 ammo survived. He and the crew kept it in their Sherman tank for the entire time they were there.

I have another marked JGA on the recv'r ring. It has a cheek piece stock, double set triggers, horn forend tip, same elevation screw adj rear sight as the above rifle. Was in bad shape,,being put back right just because.
Not worth a whole lot,,they sell for a $100 to $200 depending on the condition and features.
Simpsons in Illinois usually has a page or so of the Geco and Begian made varietys for sale. Once in a while an Anschutz marked rifle.
 
hey there, sorry to revive this old post but i was wondering if you ever found what model that little 22 was, i actually just bought one that looks exactly the same 2 days ago and this post is the first one i see with one that looks like mine ..

any info could help !
Welcome to the forum.

Unfortunately, I've found little in the way of information except for what has been posted here.

I guess there is limited interest in these little rifles. I don't know if you've fired yours, but mine shoots great.
 
To give all of you who do not own such a rifle a better understanding of how the extractor works, let us illustrate it:

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Here it is retracted:
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This is the side underneath, with the spring:

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And the simple bolt, which can be taken apart by simply unscrewing it. The firing pin is in the front part.

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Nice close-up pics, Thanks.
I've never seen one with the wide 'loading tray' type of extractor,,nor the coil spring underneath, or side safety.
Nice looking rifles.
Is it Post WW2 proofed?,,looks like it on the right side but can't quite make it out.

The ones I've had only have/had a half cock safety on the striker. A long flat-leaf spring powers the trigger/sear underneath.
They've all been pre-WW2 made guns. I was never sure if they even made them after WW2.
Bolt about the same w/the separate small firing pin in the head. Same simple disassembly by unscrewing the rear half from the bolt body.
The pre-War extractors have a very thin arm extending back in the sear spring channel and up under the bolt head w/a hook shape.
The extractor drops free of the gun once the bolt is removed on the ones I had,,,and probably the reason a good many of those are found with the extractor missing!

That M/S type bolt handle is a very nice touch.
 
Yes, this is a post WWII rifle that was made in Ulm. I am not sure of the exact year but the four digit serial number indicates early post war vintage, I would guess about 1954 to 1956. As soon as the Anschütz 64 action came out, the rimfire rifles offered were based on that model or the later Flobert actions I and II, 1450 and so on.

Those rifles that were built on the old Flobert action were sold in large numbers in Germany, mostly in 6 and 9mm Flobert. Until 1972 Germany had very liberal gun laws, based on the RWaffG from 1938, and Flobert rifles were legal for pest control inside city limits. Since the inception of more restrictive gun laws, these Flobert rifles are offered in Germany in the range of $10 to $50, with few takers.
 
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