OT: Calling all FWB 65 air pistol owners

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I own a FWB 65 target air pistol, which was capable of getting you to the Olympics in the seventies and early eighties if you did your part. I hadn't shot it in years until I trotted it out a year ago to practice, remembering quickly how cool and accurate it was.

Unfortunately, the seals had deteriorated over the years, so I took it to a local airgun repair and sales place here in the northeast Ohio area, Pyramid Air, an outfit with a big internet presence.

Not a happy transaction, work done poorly. Among other things the barrel/receiver was a loose back-and-forth fit on the grip frame, as they evidently decided not to replace the shims that fit in the receiver that controls this back and forth looseness.
Thanks to the internet, I was able to diagnose the problem and make spacers to mitigate MOST of the slop. My problem is that I don't know if there should be NO movement, or a very slight amount, as the internet information I used to fix this didn't specify an amount. I have measured the current back and forth movement of the barrel/receiver on the grip frame at about .010-.015 inches, enough so that grabbing the barrel/receiver and tugging it back and forth produces a slight definite movement and a tiny "click" as the frame and receiver make contact. Pistol operates normally and reliably.

So my fellow Smith Forum FWB 65 owners, I need you to go get your unmolested pistols and grab the barrel while holding it in a normal shooting grip and see if you have any back and forth movement. Uncocked and safe, of course.

If any of you are serious air pistol target shooters and you have any experience with someone who is a competent smith and parts supplier for these fine pistols I would like to know that too.

As always, thanks in advance for the time and thoughtful responses you give! Regards, Bill S
 
I own 2 of the FWB 65 air pistols.
Remember these are 'recoilless'. As such, the upper barrel-receiver assy is designed to move when fired, sliding on rails, resulting in virtually no felt recoil.
Very elegant, high-end pistols that haven't been manufactured in a long time.
Not sure where to go for quality service, as I believe Beeman no longer services the old FWB spring-piston airguns.
I also have a couple of old FWB model 124 rifles, one of which needs the seals replaced.
So I would also appreciate service suggestions, if anyone has them.


-Jim
 
Jim, I understand about the recoilless feature, which can be used or locked out, if the user want to replicate, as FWB literature puts it, the action of firing a conventional handgun. You can hear and feel this recoilless mechanism moving around after the pistol is fired, out of sight in the front end of the receiver below the breech end of the barrel. I'm asking about how much "play" is in the receiver on the grip frame, if any. In other words, when you hold the uncocked pistol by the grip can you make the barrel and receiver move back and forth any when you wrap your hand around the barrel and push and pull? Thanks, Bill S
 
I used to have one of these before I move to Co2. Nice gun! Capable of outshout most anybody who can hold one.
I know FWB moved it's repair service around a bit but it shouldn't be hard to find a current smith to take care of you.

I suggest you ask over at pilkguns dot com

Scott Pilkington is an Olympic quality air gunsmith If he doesn't still reseal these guns, he will know who does.
 
Mine has no play whatsoever. It's been used a lot, too.

If there's a lockout feature on mine, I can't find it and the instruction book didn't mention it.

For help on finding a good airgunsmith, try [email protected] . They deal with pistols as well as rifles.
 
Cyrano and 520, thank you! This is the info I needed.
Cyrano, if you want I will copy my owners/parts manual and send it to you if you don't have one. I'm away from the pistol at the moment, but I've owned mine since new and as I recall the recoil lockout gizmo is a semicircular little bracket with a screw, and it screws into a threaded hole beneath the barrel on the front of the receiver. Mine still sits in the little bag it left the factory in and has never been used. PM me if any one else wants copies of paperwork.
I agree that pilkington seems like the go to guy.
Thanks again, and thanks to everyone who responded. Best wishes, Bill S
 
Thanks V1 Rotate; I never noticed that threaded hole. My little gadget must have been lost by a previous owner, and I don't really need that capability. Thanks for the offer of an instruction manual, but I have a Xerox copy of a manual that was not very well, from the German translated.
 
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