First of all, I love my Model 10-8 Smith/Wesson and my old K22 Masterpiece; both shoot as if new and I will never let them go. I bought my 16 year old daughter a Heritage .22 LR with the extra Magnum cylinder and it shoots flawlessly for a $200 wheel gun. So I bought a .357 Heritage for under $400 for myself. (Haven't shot it yet.) While at the shop I was drawn toward the Stoeger .45 cal., under $400. A very nice-looking, solid feeling SA revolver. (Another Colt clone.) Question is, does anyone have any experience with this gun as far as accuracy & dependability? It feels very solid, tight, and heavy. (Of course my .38 spl. is my home gun, and I carry a little .380 Glock pocket pistol.) My main objective is to shoot holes in defenseless pieces of paper with circles on them! Any input would be appreciated. Thank you in advance, Jeff Taylor, Pgh, PA.
Uberti/Stoeger .45 Model 0399
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Ivan the Butcher
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I have had a number of Italian clones, all in 45 Colt. Some manufacturers re better than others, and Ubirti is at the top of them! The different importers have the guns made to their specs, and Stoeger was pretty much middle of the road. All SAA designed revolvers suffer from the same spring design, and very few don't have interchangeable springs. That will be the one problem that happens to you, you can wait or replace the small springs in advance (and maybe polish up any rough edges while you are at it) Buy the way the 1861 Army uses the same springs also.
I haven't bought any clones in years so my idea of fair price is out of date! But $400 seems 50 or 75 too much.
I was at a shoot with 3 of my sons, springs went on two guns on the first station and one the night before! I wasn't going to let them shoot my guns, so I bought a pair of used stainless Ruger Vaqueros on the spot, and had the 2 better clones fixed the next week. I still own a set of clones in 357 and a set in 45 Colt, but I have 2 pair of 45 Vaqueros, one pair stainless and a blue set of Bisleys (My personal pair with the action jobs and special tricks added)
Ivan
I haven't bought any clones in years so my idea of fair price is out of date! But $400 seems 50 or 75 too much.
I was at a shoot with 3 of my sons, springs went on two guns on the first station and one the night before! I wasn't going to let them shoot my guns, so I bought a pair of used stainless Ruger Vaqueros on the spot, and had the 2 better clones fixed the next week. I still own a set of clones in 357 and a set in 45 Colt, but I have 2 pair of 45 Vaqueros, one pair stainless and a blue set of Bisleys (My personal pair with the action jobs and special tricks added)
Ivan
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Colt clone springs
Thanks so much for the heads up. Perhaps I'll pass on the .45...I don't NEED it! I'll see what I can get in a Smith when I "need" one! I won't have that spring problem roaming around in my head when I go shooting, and really, I'd prefer the DA/SA revolver. Thanks again! Jeff
Thanks so much for the heads up. Perhaps I'll pass on the .45...I don't NEED it! I'll see what I can get in a Smith when I "need" one! I won't have that spring problem roaming around in my head when I go shooting, and really, I'd prefer the DA/SA revolver. Thanks again! Jeff
DWalt
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To me, the highest and best use of a repro Schofield is for use in CAS. At the right price, I'd like to have one just because they are a little out of the mainstream, and something I don't have in my accumulation of oddball guns.
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Oddball guns
That is actually why I bought the Heritage .357 Magnum, kind of an oddball revolver; plus, I can still shoot .38 Specials through it with less expensive ammo. I don't reload, as I have to drive about 30 minutes to shoot so I don't get a lot of shooting in. By the way, forgive my ignorance, but what does CAS stand for? Thank you, and happy shooting! I love Texas, by the way! Beautiful state. Jeff Taylor
That is actually why I bought the Heritage .357 Magnum, kind of an oddball revolver; plus, I can still shoot .38 Specials through it with less expensive ammo. I don't reload, as I have to drive about 30 minutes to shoot so I don't get a lot of shooting in. By the way, forgive my ignorance, but what does CAS stand for? Thank you, and happy shooting! I love Texas, by the way! Beautiful state. Jeff Taylor
Stevie
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I own a Stoeger/Uberti 4 3/4" Colt clone. Seems like in the early 2000's Beretta, Benelli, Franchi, Uberti and Stoeger all pulled together. The Uberti guns were imported then by sister company Stoeger and were so marked.
Targets Guy
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My Uberti shoots fine.
DWalt
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Cowboy Action Shooting. Everyone dresses up like old west outlaws or Wyatt Earp and shoots steel targets with period rifles, shotguns, and revolvers, usually replicas of same. A timed competition event. The guy who knocks down the most targets the quickest wins.
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TargetsGuy, So do you think I won't waste my money on a $350 new in box Uberti/Stoeger .45? I've looked at prices of other guns; I'm sure they may may be better guns (at least they better be for 3 times the price!) but I only shoot paper. As long as it shoots what I aim at is all I care about, not self defense. Although the .45 would hurt like all Hell until the heart stops beating! I just think it would be fun to shoot something with some power once in a while. Call it plinking, whatever. No competition here! I just like target shooting when I can. 2 years and I'll be retired. It really does feel like a good solid shooter for the money.
Targets Guy
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No I don't. I think it will give you years of pleasure and will increase in value. I am saving for the replica of John Wayne's six shooter he used in most of his movies. It is a beauty.
cowboy4evr
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I had one of those " 45's " yrs ago , It shot fine . My BIL still has one , wouldn't sell / trade it . We found they were pretty darn accurate . We used 255 gr RNFP cast bullet , what it was originally built for .
DWalt
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I'd buy a NIB .45 Schofield replica for $350. Even though I don't have much use for one.
THE PILGRIM
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The Ubertis that I have seen look good!
If a used 38/357 came down the pike,
I could be a buyer!
If a used 38/357 came down the pike,
I could be a buyer!
I checked the 'Net and a Uberti Model 0399 is a 4 3/4" Cattleman with the brass grip frame. In other words, a Colt Single Action Army clone with brass instead of steel.
Semper Fi 57
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Gentlemen,
I don't know if you'all know of Cimmaron Firearms or not, but I believe they handle the Uberti firearms, both revolvers & rifles. However, the prices maybe out of the running for you folks. Just a heads up.
Have a good day!
I don't know if you'all know of Cimmaron Firearms or not, but I believe they handle the Uberti firearms, both revolvers & rifles. However, the prices maybe out of the running for you folks. Just a heads up.
Have a good day!
Cowboy action shooting is amazing fun! Single action revolvers, lever action rifles, double barreled shotguns! Okay you can also shoot pump guns for your long arms. Just as much fun!
In today's shooting world, not counting the really big bore single action revolvers like a .454 Casull or a .500 Linebaugh (and that's a five-gun, I believe), designed mostly for hunting, I guess, the best use for single action revolvers is shooting cowboy action matches. Ever since I sort of faded away from CAS I don't even touch my Vaqueros or Colt replicas.
However, if you're good with one, a single action revolver is an effective home defense weapon today same as it was years ago. Not my first choice but if I had to, yep, I could.
In today's shooting world, not counting the really big bore single action revolvers like a .454 Casull or a .500 Linebaugh (and that's a five-gun, I believe), designed mostly for hunting, I guess, the best use for single action revolvers is shooting cowboy action matches. Ever since I sort of faded away from CAS I don't even touch my Vaqueros or Colt replicas.
However, if you're good with one, a single action revolver is an effective home defense weapon today same as it was years ago. Not my first choice but if I had to, yep, I could.
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Ivan the Butcher
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It is all about what you think fun is! Throwing big chunks of lead is one of the most fun things you can do with your cloths on! you can do it dressed as some guy, some solider, some police officer, or some cowboy. You can do it in rifles or handguns or even shotguns!
In Cowboy Action Shooting, You can dress as a cowboy, a soldier, an Indian, a school marm or even a "soiled dove" (saw a guy do that once, it was hilarious!) There is even a 1911 class! There are sometimes, Quigley shoots! You can use smokeless, black powder; cartridge or cap and ball. The real important thing is Shooting!
I use a less than full power loads, in 45 Colt, I shoot a 230 or 240 grain bullet at about 750-800 fps. I friend heard I shot this load, and thought my plinking load had more energy than most people's SD ammo. Some ranges use steel plates that ring when hit, some use steel knock down targets. It is obvious when someone uses a 38 and very obvious when someone uses a 44 or 45!
There are a number of companies that make premium SD ammo in 45 Colt ( I have CCW a 4" Cattleman with Silver Tip Hollow Points several times) but the original load of 255grain lead at 855 fps was the most powerful cartridge revolver on earth for 62 years! I also liked my 25 with Federal 225 Hollow Point, Hollow Base SWC (one of the most accurate full power hand gun ammos I ever saw!
My recommendation is buy the gun and try, just try and wear it out!
Ivan
In Cowboy Action Shooting, You can dress as a cowboy, a soldier, an Indian, a school marm or even a "soiled dove" (saw a guy do that once, it was hilarious!) There is even a 1911 class! There are sometimes, Quigley shoots! You can use smokeless, black powder; cartridge or cap and ball. The real important thing is Shooting!
I use a less than full power loads, in 45 Colt, I shoot a 230 or 240 grain bullet at about 750-800 fps. I friend heard I shot this load, and thought my plinking load had more energy than most people's SD ammo. Some ranges use steel plates that ring when hit, some use steel knock down targets. It is obvious when someone uses a 38 and very obvious when someone uses a 44 or 45!
There are a number of companies that make premium SD ammo in 45 Colt ( I have CCW a 4" Cattleman with Silver Tip Hollow Points several times) but the original load of 255grain lead at 855 fps was the most powerful cartridge revolver on earth for 62 years! I also liked my 25 with Federal 225 Hollow Point, Hollow Base SWC (one of the most accurate full power hand gun ammos I ever saw!
My recommendation is buy the gun and try, just try and wear it out!
Ivan
THE PILGRIM
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