TomkinsSP
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Starline makes Largo brass. 38 Auto/Super dies work.
CHEAP GUN THREAD: Star BM 9mm.
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Starline makes Largo brass. 38 Auto/Super dies work.
Arik
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HOUSTON RICK
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So many 9mms, so little gun safe space.
My LGS has a minty PD for $450. Worth it?
I love 1911s, and it would certainly see use as a CCW. That said, apparently they have plastic frame buffers that wear out after 1000 rounds. Thoughts?
ExcitableBoy
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Snap it up like a duck on a June-bug! $450 is about the average $$$ for a nice PD, and their value increases every year.
Slightly modified 1911 buffers work just fine. I would also consider a heavier Wolff recoil spring. Extra mags are on the pricey side, but I might know of a source that is very reasonable (lots cheaper), if he has any left in his stash.
Slightly modified 1911 buffers work just fine. I would also consider a heavier Wolff recoil spring. Extra mags are on the pricey side, but I might know of a source that is very reasonable (lots cheaper), if he has any left in his stash.
TomkinsSP
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Were it not for that annoying state resident rule, I know someone who would probably drive all day to come down and buy it (being January factors in a bit as well).
There used to be a company in Jefferson City, Mo. that made new "replacement" buffers for PD and SKS (eliminates that distinctive metal on metal sound) and others, don't know if they are still around.
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TomkinsSP
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No space for another gun safe?
Snap it up like a duck on a June-bug! $450 is about the average $$$ for a nice PD, and their value increases every year.
Slightly modified 1911 buffers work just fine. I would also consider a heavier Wolff recoil spring. Extra mags are on the pricey side, but I might know of a source that is very reasonable (lots cheaper), if he has any left in his stash.
You guys are such terrible enablers.
I'll try to stop by tomorrow and see if he still has it, which he probably does. I've wanted it for months, but felt like $450 was a bit rich.
RobertJ.
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I bought one for $175 about twelve years ago, and sold it to a friend a year later for the same. I sold it to help fund a 27-3 purchase.
I liked it while I had it. It was reasonably accurate, and reliable enough that I carried it a few times.
I had a Llama 1911 years ago and I liked it really well. That and the BM both had pretty decent finishes compared to most current handguns, and I wouldn't hesitate to own either again.
I liked it while I had it. It was reasonably accurate, and reliable enough that I carried it a few times.
I had a Llama 1911 years ago and I liked it really well. That and the BM both had pretty decent finishes compared to most current handguns, and I wouldn't hesitate to own either again.
Milton
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A question for 2152hq.
Is there a parts interchangeability between a BKS and a BM.I see that the slide and barrel is longer on my BKS but just what will interchange?
Also do you know how durable the alloy receiver is on the BKS?
Is there a parts interchangeability between a BKS and a BM.I see that the slide and barrel is longer on my BKS but just what will interchange?
Also do you know how durable the alloy receiver is on the BKS?
TomkinsSP
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TomkinsSP
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BS is B with mag safety (easy to remove easy to replace) both are steel. BKS is alloy frame BS. BM is smaller Commander size. Never seen a BM that was not built with mag safety. Also easy to remove. Easy to replace. BKM is alloy frame BM, ages to pretty golden color. Will let others comment on hardness/durability and interchangability of parts.
My first .45 auto was the full size Star. I think it was a Model P.
It was just as accurate as most of the military 1911s I have fired over the years. However, it was hard to find factory mags for it.
A friend of mine felt that I should have a military style 1911 & he found one for me at a Birmingham, Alabama gun show. So, I sold the Star to another friend.
It was just as accurate as most of the military 1911s I have fired over the years. However, it was hard to find factory mags for it.
A friend of mine felt that I should have a military style 1911 & he found one for me at a Birmingham, Alabama gun show. So, I sold the Star to another friend.
Not much is interchangeable betw the BKS and BM.
The BKS is actually a shortened alloy frame version of the magazine safety Model B,,That being the Model BS.
(the 'S' on any STAR model designation notes a magazine safety).
Those Model BS pistols the BKS were designed off of were put into production starting in '68. The mag safety added to improve the # of points the pistols would get for importation to the US under the new 68GCA.
The Model A became the Model AS. There was also a Model U that became the Model US. This latter one is hardly ever encountered. It's a .30Luger version that was made for importation m ostly to countrys where 9mmLuger was banned from civilian use. Italy for one.
The BKS (Model B, alloy frame, magazine safety) shortened slide and bbl.
First STAR pistol to use a captured recoil spring and guide assembly. The slide stop, & thumb safety are Model B.
There may be some small parts/springs/ect that interchange w/the BM but I've never had the need to try and refit any from the two.
Early production BKS had the ;positive ignition' firing pin (protrudes from the breech face with the hammer down.
Later guns after approx ser#1,250,000 have the rebounding/Colt style.
The BKS was marketed in the USA as the 'STARLIGHT'.
GArcia early on ws responsible for most of the monikers for the STAR pistols I believe. The paperwork and boxes also carried the STAR factory Model designation.
Like the Model AS & BS,,the BKS had a brother Model UKS. A 7.65 Parabellum version for those who saw the need or could not have the 9mmLuger version.
The alloy frames are not designed for constant use like a steel frame no matter the mfg IMO. The STAR pistols are the same. For a carry, practice and occasional shooter they will outlast most people.
But I wouldn't take it to the range every week and throw 400rds down range with it and not expect it to show some wear.
I've never seen a 'broken' alloy STAR frame, but they are not that common anyway.
The BKS is actually a shortened alloy frame version of the magazine safety Model B,,That being the Model BS.
(the 'S' on any STAR model designation notes a magazine safety).
Those Model BS pistols the BKS were designed off of were put into production starting in '68. The mag safety added to improve the # of points the pistols would get for importation to the US under the new 68GCA.
The Model A became the Model AS. There was also a Model U that became the Model US. This latter one is hardly ever encountered. It's a .30Luger version that was made for importation m ostly to countrys where 9mmLuger was banned from civilian use. Italy for one.
The BKS (Model B, alloy frame, magazine safety) shortened slide and bbl.
First STAR pistol to use a captured recoil spring and guide assembly. The slide stop, & thumb safety are Model B.
There may be some small parts/springs/ect that interchange w/the BM but I've never had the need to try and refit any from the two.
Early production BKS had the ;positive ignition' firing pin (protrudes from the breech face with the hammer down.
Later guns after approx ser#1,250,000 have the rebounding/Colt style.
The BKS was marketed in the USA as the 'STARLIGHT'.
GArcia early on ws responsible for most of the monikers for the STAR pistols I believe. The paperwork and boxes also carried the STAR factory Model designation.
Like the Model AS & BS,,the BKS had a brother Model UKS. A 7.65 Parabellum version for those who saw the need or could not have the 9mmLuger version.
The alloy frames are not designed for constant use like a steel frame no matter the mfg IMO. The STAR pistols are the same. For a carry, practice and occasional shooter they will outlast most people.
But I wouldn't take it to the range every week and throw 400rds down range with it and not expect it to show some wear.
I've never seen a 'broken' alloy STAR frame, but they are not that common anyway.
ExcitableBoy
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Our very own Lord Voldemort.
"He who shall remain nameless..."
I don't usually giggle, but...
I don't usually giggle, but...
Yeah, it's all in good fun
No offense intended Arik, I just couldn't resist after the way that exchange played out...
ExcitableBoy
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"You guys are such terrible enablers."
And I've been accused of corrupting morals, too.
And I've been accused of corrupting morals, too.
Arik
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None taken and I'm not sure who that is? Harry Potter character?
Lol just googled it!!!! I think I have a better looking nose though
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I'm sure of it. Be pretty hard not to, wouldn't it?
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