Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics

Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics Post Your General Gun Topics and Non-S&W Gun and Blade Topics Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-11-2020, 10:24 PM
marathonrunner marathonrunner is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 899
Likes: 631
Liked 224 Times in 154 Posts
Default Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!

Folks i just bought the Sig P226 SAO Legion and after watching all the reviews i just paid $1400 thinking i was buying something so awesome it would be the best gun period. Well after taking it out to the range, at 21ft it was no different than any of my other plastic pistols and was getting 1.5inch groups. My X5 legion i can get .5 moa at 21ft easily. At 50 ft the p226 was only combat accurate. Group size was a little smaller than a dinner sized plate. My X5 Legion with grayguns competition trigger i get softball size groups at 50ft.

I suppose comparing the P series to X series is not fair because Sigs X series is designed.for.target and their P.series.is designed.for combat.

Anyway i also learned the springs on the p226.should.be changed every.10k rounds. Ugggg! Changing springs.on a.striker fired.is pretty.easy but on the p226 its not.that easy..there are.lots of small parts.and its a bit complex.

Then the other thing i.did not like about the p226 the slide.is paper thin like a potato.chip. you would.think sig could beef up.the slide so its verg****gged. i get it.that less reciplicating mass means less recoil but still. The other thing i didnt like the hammer strut hits the safety cross bar and is said to loosen over time but been told by sig that has never caused the safet to.fail

All and all had i known better i would have bought a cz accushadow for anfew bucks more or could habe bought the X5 legion and saved some.money
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-11-2020, 11:51 PM
LPD256's Avatar
LPD256 LPD256 is offline
SWCA Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,993
Likes: 20,508
Liked 6,367 Times in 1,579 Posts
Default

Marathon-My experience with Sig’s is I’ve had to replace one recoil spring on my 229 after a significant number of rounds. It’s a simple fix. Sig sells them in a three pack for not much money. I haven’t replaced anything else. Hope this makes you feel better.

Jim
__________________
SWCA 3255 SWHF 615
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #3  
Old 03-12-2020, 03:15 AM
alwslate alwslate is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Indiana
Posts: 7,310
Likes: 4,335
Liked 8,483 Times in 3,467 Posts
Default

Your first sentence says it all. After watching reviews you paid $1400 for
a plastic pistol thinking somehow it would be better than all other pistols.
Hype and high price = awesome. Naw, bad math
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-12-2020, 06:46 AM
Old_Cop Old_Cop is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Crawford County PA
Posts: 3,864
Likes: 4,909
Liked 6,900 Times in 2,513 Posts
Default

Legion is a SIG marketing ploy which provides a challenge coin, a different finish and club membership. I have shot the SA model and for someone who likes the 1911 cocked and locked action, it does away with the first DA shot. It is not a P226X5, of course it is $1000 less. SIG is a great gun but I suggest that your needs might be better fulfilled with a CZ75 Shadow.
__________________
Made it, Ma! Top of the world!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #5  
Old 03-12-2020, 08:25 AM
white cloud white cloud is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,109
Likes: 2,992
Liked 1,476 Times in 607 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomadmax View Post
I can't say that I've ever been impressed with any Sig product I've owned or the one I was issued to carry. My 9mm auto loaders are CZs, a SP-01 Tactical & a P-01.

As to the post above ^ regarding a plastic pistol; the P226 isn't a polymer gun.
The "SIG fan base" will start up soon but I agree completely. I have owned my last SIG.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #6  
Old 03-12-2020, 08:59 AM
sodacan sodacan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,571
Likes: 1,228
Liked 5,538 Times in 1,686 Posts
Default

Sorry the OP spent so much only to be disappointed, but it is just a souped up service pistol. As for accuracy, the shooter's skills also have to be factored in, and I'm not sure why he would expect the accuracy to be the same as an X5. I own several Sigs and I like them all. None of them are from the Legion series. To a serious shooter, the "Legion" series is lot of hype with little in the way of upgrades that justify the price or make them better shooters. Just curious to know if the OP owns an X5 as he stated in the first paragraph of his post or "could have bought" one as stated in the the last one. As far as changing springs every 10K rounds, why would anyone not do that, or sooner? Pictured are 3/4 of my Sigs. The black W. German P220 is one of the most accurate guns I have ever experienced. Missing is a W.German P6, also an incredible pistol.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20190419_091806.jpg (35.4 KB, 29 views)
File Type: jpg 20190904_194510.jpg (58.2 KB, 24 views)

Last edited by sodacan; 03-12-2020 at 10:30 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 03-12-2020, 09:41 AM
colt_saa's Avatar
colt_saa colt_saa is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Cocoa Beach, Florida
Posts: 10,763
Likes: 3,452
Liked 24,170 Times in 6,167 Posts
Default

I am a Big fan of SIG's P22x family of auto loaders. I am also a fan of the SIG X-family of auto loaders

I have owned and carried SIG P22x pistols since 1977. A P220 has saved my life more than once, but so has a Smith & Wesson.


I currently own and shoot many examples of both the P22x family and the X-family of SIG products.


I plan to continue buying SIG products

If you have seen reviews that tried to tell you a Legion offers the same performance as an X-family auto loader, then you should be mad at whomever did the review and not mad at SIG over this. You do not have a defective firearm or a Lemon, you have exactly what the Legion is, a prettier version of the P22x family of pistols

You might have been able to try a Legion before you purchased. If the ranges in your area do not offer rentals, I bet you could have gone to the SIGForum and asked for a Legion owner in your area to help you make the decision.

I myself was drawn to the visual appeal of the Legion auto loaders. I liked that the finish was PVD, but it was a hefty price increase for a face lift. When SIG dropped the PVD finish in favor of Cerecote, I was done. The Legion no longer had enough to offer me for the premium price

I have often met Forum members (and shooting students) at the range to give them trigger time on something that they did not own.

Back when I was starting to shoot there was an RSO/instructor out at the old Sunrise Police Range and he let me try a couple of Colts and Smith & Wessons as I was contemplating those first few purchases. I see this as simply paying it forward to the next generation and their involvement in the shooting sports

Remember anybody can post a video to the Internet and it costs them nothing to do so

If you wanted X-5 performance you should have bought an X-5, especially since you appear to have had prior X-5 exposure

I know this is not what you want to hear, but we have all made mistakes in the firearms that we have purchased.

Go back to your dealer and trade the Legion in on the X-5 that you really want or the CZ or whatever.

Yes you are going to take some lumps over this, but you will probably be much more diligent in your next purchase.
__________________
"Acta non verba"
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 03-12-2020, 09:54 AM
M29since14 M29since14 is offline
SWCA Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indiana
Posts: 12,541
Likes: 11,733
Liked 11,374 Times in 5,356 Posts
Default

I suppose I qualify as a member of the “SIG fan base” () - if not really a rabid one. The market is literally awash with jazzed up pistols from various manufacturers, the jazzing mainly being a few extra cuts by the CNC machining center and some out of the ordinary finishes. Combine that with a little extra marketing effort and the prices go up 30% or more. Great! - if that’s your cup of tea. Admittedly, SIG participates in this, if not quite as conspicuously as another manufacturer that comes to mind. It’s important to remember that assembling a true target pistol is a little more complicated.

OP, you do realize that at 21-feet 0.5 MOA is approximately 0.070”, right? I suppose it’s possible, but I’ve never seen any P226 that wouldn’t do better than dinner plate accuracy at 50-feet. Did you let anyone else try it? Try different ammunition?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-12-2020, 09:54 AM
Rammer Jammer's Avatar
Rammer Jammer Rammer Jammer is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 954
Likes: 1,177
Liked 1,905 Times in 629 Posts
Default

I have never bought in to the whole "Legion" thing from Sig. Extra cash to get moderate upgrades, a stupid coin and membership in a club only limited to those who will spend the extra money. OKkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 03-12-2020, 10:05 AM
RonPagan's Avatar
RonPagan RonPagan is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: May 2016
Location: West glacier, Mt
Posts: 190
Likes: 72
Liked 228 Times in 81 Posts
Default

Recently got a p226 select for a damn good price from a gun shop that was closing down. While I decided not to keep it, since I prefer the ergonomics of my sp01 the sig is still a perfectly fine weapon. Maybe if I kept it and started pounding thousands of rounds through it I might find some qc issue or something but I've always been happy with the sigs I own or have owned. I will say that 226 has the short reset trigger and it's really nice, cz's ludicrously long trigger reset bugs me and its always something I have to change on a cz I own.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-12-2020, 11:18 AM
Trooper224's Avatar
Trooper224 Trooper224 is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kansas
Posts: 909
Likes: 579
Liked 2,755 Times in 629 Posts
Default

Sig isn't the benchmark it once was.

You had unrealistic expectations for your purchase.

You don't understand MOA.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #12  
Old 03-12-2020, 10:48 PM
birdshooter birdshooter is offline
SWCA Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 471
Likes: 96
Liked 785 Times in 214 Posts
Default

Bought my Legion because of the SAO. I really enjoy mine. Never expected it to be a target pistol. I find mine to be quite enjoyable.
__________________
SWCA #2922
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 03-13-2020, 10:00 AM
cowboy4evr cowboy4evr is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: for now ,Texas
Posts: 2,772
Likes: 213
Liked 3,359 Times in 1,547 Posts
Default

I'm not even a semi auto fan but have 3 sigs . A P320 that I converted to 357 sig w/their Xchange program . A P238 that has been flawless for all the years I have owned it . I recently was at my LGS , there in the cabinet was a Sig P226 that included 3 mags and a conversion barrel to 357 sig . It had also had a trigger job done by a very reputable shop . The Double action is light and crisp . I was afraid I would have problems with light primer strikes so I loaded up some ammo using CCI primers --- no problem whatsoever . Oh btw , I paid $395 , including all of the above . I've had several smiths and Rugers in semi auto as well . Most of them have gone down the road . I still have my Sigs , Regards, Paul
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-13-2020, 10:54 AM
GTBL's Avatar
GTBL GTBL is offline
Member
Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!! Sig P226 SAO Legion Before you buy this gun read this!!!  
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Georgia
Posts: 251
Likes: 731
Liked 420 Times in 153 Posts
Default

I love mine. Definitely worth the extra money. Mine has the PVD Finish and it has held up great. I will get the P229 to go along with it. If you like Plastic striker-fire guns, by all means, buy those.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg SIG.jpg (109.2 KB, 17 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #15  
Old 03-13-2020, 05:05 PM
7tenz's Avatar
7tenz 7tenz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: so cal
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 539
Liked 764 Times in 399 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
Sig isn't the benchmark it once was.

You had unrealistic expectations for your purchase.

You don't understand MOA.
We used to buy a Sig because they were reliable accurate and simple. All this whiz bang (no pun intended) bells and whistles abandoned their original intent. The new models are boring.

Edit: I'm not saying they are bad guns. It's like external extractors on a 1911. Sure they work fine but it's just not the same. And without a stamped steel slide Sigs today are just another brand of the same old boring autoloader design and made like everybody else. They lost their uniqueness imo.
__________________
9tenz

Last edited by 7tenz; 03-13-2020 at 06:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
P320 X5 Legion vs Sig P226 SAO Legion Accuracy marathonrunner Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 5 01-15-2020 10:49 PM
WTS SIG SAUER LEGION P226 gallor1 GUNS - For Sale or Trade 6 04-09-2017 09:00 PM
Real world shooting data. Worth a read, or a re-read. Triathloncoach The Lounge 5 02-07-2016 05:48 PM
Sig P226 Legion 2tango2 Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 6 12-28-2015 04:55 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:24 AM.


© 2000-2025 smith-wessonforum.com All rights reserved worldwide.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)