italiansport
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I regularly use a cane to assist me in walking. I have been wondering if anyone makes a defensive quality example as I have to carry one anyway?
Jim
Jim
Defensive canes?
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Stevens
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I don't use a cane but have thought if I did I'd insert a good sized slug of lead into the bottom of it. That should make a pretty good defensive piece without, as far as I know, breaking any laws.
Steve W
Steve W
lawandorder
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Cold Steel make a variety of good quality self defense canes to fit most laws of the land.
boatme99
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Italian sport, pm sent.
Simson-Suhl
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Burger Brothers produce the finest sword canes in the world. I purchased the model 4, with the Damascus Blade several years ago. Check out their site, however, I must warn you, the price of these canes can equal or pass the cost of collectable S&W's or Colt's.
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I have a nice cane/walking stick, Piece of willow with a few small diamonds and beaver chew marks. Found it striped by beavers down on the creek. Bit over an inch at the top which they rounded nicely. I cleaned it up a bit and did a 1/2 hitch wrap near the top. If I ever go on a plane again I will take it with me. Find it hilarious that they won't let me carry a knife with a 3" blade (or even shorter) but they will let a 300# man carry a big stick. Humanoids were killing with sticks long before they figured out any kind of knife.
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Justin T
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On another forum I frequent, shillelaghs are often discussed. Some folks really dig real, authentic blackthorns.
There is a traditional Irish stick-fighting style that uses the blackthorn cane as its primary tool.
My interest is piqued, but I have too many projects and things i want to do first.
There is a traditional Irish stick-fighting style that uses the blackthorn cane as its primary tool.
My interest is piqued, but I have too many projects and things i want to do first.
THEmodelof1989
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I question the use of something you need to walk as a weapon. If you need help walking, how much force do you hope to generate swinging a cane? Like chubs says, the swing is "all in the hips happy". If I was a young and capable strong armist, an old man with a cane just would deter me very much. Seems like you'd be much better off using the cane for its intended purpose and buying a great equalizer like a firearm if your intent is self defense.
Kendo is a great upper body workout.
Last time I was in Central Park NYC, broken glass etc etc where I played as a kid and BGs just looking for a mark, a stout homemade walking stick was my sidearm.
1992.
Last time I was in Central Park NYC, broken glass etc etc where I played as a kid and BGs just looking for a mark, a stout homemade walking stick was my sidearm.
1992.
ADA laws make that happen. I have been carrying canes onto airplanes for years. Way before I actually needed one and after the knee surgery I'll continue to carry canes onto planes. The first time I did it, years ago, I was carrying a cane made in Africa, with a hippopotamus head on the top (kind of uncomfortable, actually), and made of 4 different kinds of wood held together by a solid iron bar. When they x-rayed it they allowed it because it was HELD TOGETHER! The bar was somehow glued in there so it couldn't be accessed. Let me tell you, that is one doggone heavy cane - you could break skulls with it. The law says they must be permitted.
All well made canes are excellent defensive weapons. It is true that "mastering" their use takes practice but it doesn't take a lot of practice to swing one if necessary - you just have to realize it can be caught when you're doing that. Holding it in closely and tightly in your hand and getting into a perp's "space" with it works better.
One of the best defensive canes is a shillelagh. They are always extremely solid if you buy a quality stick and without hooks and handles they are very maneuverable two-handed weapons. My two choices when I fly (I have choices) are either a standard hooked cane or a shillelagh.
In either case I just pretend to be a silly old man with a limp and a cane. Well, that is actually true, now, I suppose, as opposed to years ago, but I promise nobody wants to enrage me when I have a cane.
Now, speaking of sword canes, and I have had one for over 50 years, they are no longer illegal in Texas. However, they might be very illegal where you live so if you have one at home leave it there unless you are certain that your state and local jurisdiction allow it.
jimmyj
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When I was a small lad most old men in my area carried a "Hog Stick" which was a heavy walking cane (Hickory ?) plus a sharp pocket knife (Barlow) for whittling, a pocket revolver (usually hammerless .32/38) , and a pocket watch. Smart folks did not mess with these old men. The pocket knife was also used to cut off a "Chew" from a plug of "Brown Mule" chewing tobacco.
dscampbell
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Ka-bar makes one that I use
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If you need it desperately I agree, maybe it's not that great a weapon. I have arthritic knees but I can walk and there is nothing wrong with my upper body. If you really have significant walking issues where you might fall if you swing your stick then it's not a good weapon. I don't have those issues. Not yet, anyway.
Standard cane and Irish shillelagh. You can't see it well but the shillelagh has a deep curve - it's really cool because the tip and the handle are perfectly matched so using it is "normal". It was custom made for me in Ireland, it has my initials and the word "Gramps" using the same "G" and has an Irish coin embedded in one of its knots. It is a formidable weapon - the history is left for another thread someday.
By the way, the standard cane is 36 inches long. If you're not average height, get one made to fit your size. A six foot man could not use my sticks; they would be too short for him. Those two are perfect for my shorter stature.
If you need it desperately I agree, maybe it's not that great a weapon. I have arthritic knees but I can walk and there is nothing wrong with my upper body. If you really have significant walking issues where you might fall if you swing your stick then it's not a good weapon. I don't have those issues. Not yet, anyway.
Standard cane and Irish shillelagh. You can't see it well but the shillelagh has a deep curve - it's really cool because the tip and the handle are perfectly matched so using it is "normal". It was custom made for me in Ireland, it has my initials and the word "Gramps" using the same "G" and has an Irish coin embedded in one of its knots. It is a formidable weapon - the history is left for another thread someday.
By the way, the standard cane is 36 inches long. If you're not average height, get one made to fit your size. A six foot man could not use my sticks; they would be too short for him. Those two are perfect for my shorter stature.
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I have several walking sticks, not canes, while they do support balance their primary purpose is as an accessory to your outfit, much as your pocket watch would be
This picture is bad because it is my umbrella stand in the new house and I have many of the swords in there as well while I figure out what to do with them
One of the sticks is a sword, but it is threaded in to the cane and MUCH too slow to be useful in an emergency. It is easily seen as the one all the way on the left. You can not tell on this image, but the handle's panels are very nicely hand engraved. As a straight walking stick, this one is classy
All the way on the right is the copper Steam Punk style walking stick. It does have good mass for a fight buy it is more trendy then pretty
The one that really works for me is at the back of the bucket. It is an ebony shaft with a few inlays, but the handle is an old Ivory billiard ball. The ball has a flat spot. It is hidden in the back. All you can see is the ball almost between he handles of the two sabers
The ball has very good mass and when swung by holding it at the tip end it can generate substantial head energy
Can't carry a gun on a plane, in a courthouse, a post office etc etc. Just because and old guy is carrying a cane doesn't mean he needs one. A stick helps me climb up stuff and get up from the ground. I bet I can still knock just about anyone on their rear. Most young dip wads just see old guy and cane as a mater of fact the cane probably makes them seem even more helpless.
But, mostly, yes, I carry a gun, a 325 loaded with 6 fat 200gr 45acp hollow points.
Marshwheeling
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The cane I have been using while I recuperate from a knee replacement is topped by a heavy brass knob that looks like an onion bulb. It would hurt to get hit with it, and the right blow could crack a skull. Because of its weight, the other end feels quite light and whippy.
Good point about lack of mobility for someone with badly arthritic knees. I am hoping the new knee will let me get some of that back.
Good point about lack of mobility for someone with badly arthritic knees. I am hoping the new knee will let me get some of that back.
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I have three of these, he now makes them in two different lengths. Superb quality and likely indestructible, there are a few YouTube videos of people smashing them against trees and pallets with no damage.
This is light enough that you would deploy it a bit like a sjambok. I would not use the ball or "mace" end for impact use, I would use that for my own gripping and work on my technique (pool cue strikes, etc.) with that in mind.
BlackSwift Sticks - walking stick self defense
This is light enough that you would deploy it a bit like a sjambok. I would not use the ball or "mace" end for impact use, I would use that for my own gripping and work on my technique (pool cue strikes, etc.) with that in mind.
BlackSwift Sticks - walking stick self defense
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Simson-Suhl
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Lacking the facts, however, I believe Rex Applegate in his senior years used a cane to defend himself against a much younger ne'er do well with outstanding results!
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