Glock to discontinue Gen4

Marshal tom said:
I just sold a Gen 4 FDE 19 that I had tricked up. I am a lefty, don't care for finger groves and didn't like the fact that the slide lock/slide release is not available for left hand operation. I have been trying to go to pistols that work well for left handed shooter thus I now have a Gen 5 Glock 45 and an M&P 2.0 compact that I am working with.
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Have you looked at a HK VP9. My wife shoots lefty and I’m a righty. Dual slide release and paddle mag release we can both shoot no issues. Very accurate too
 
I guess I should visit my local cop shop and grab a spare Glock 32. They had Gen 3 and Gen 4 in stock when I was in a couple of weeks ago. The one I bought last year was a Gen 4, but I’d be just as happy with a Gen 3. The adjustable back strap isn’t a big deal, and I don’t know what the other differences are.
 
Marshal tom said:
I just sold a Gen 4 FDE 19 that I had tricked up. I am a lefty, don't care for finger groves and didn't like the fact that the slide lock/slide release is not available for left hand operation. I have been trying to go to pistols that work well for left handed shooter thus I now have a Gen 5 Glock 45 and an M&P 2.0 compact that I am working with.
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If you don't mind DA/SA guns, the Beretta PX4 Storm comes standard with an ambidextrous slide release (the Carry versions only have the left-side slide release lever) and the mag release is reversible. The slide-mounted safety/decocker (easily converted to decock-only if that's your preference, and I would recommend that as I don't like the way the safety works) is also ambidextrous. Some people don't like the slide-mounted controls, but I like them and have no issue using them. And there are no finger grooves.
 
31FordA said:
I guess I should visit my local cop shop and grab a spare Glock 32. They had Gen 3 and Gen 4 in stock when I was in a couple of weeks ago. The one I bought last year was a Gen 4, but I’d be just as happy with a Gen 3. The adjustable back strap isn’t a big deal, and I don’t know what the other differences are.
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I'm not exactly chomping at the bit over a Gen five myself.
 
ContinentalOp said:
Interesting. Makes sense.

I used to have a Gen3 Glock 23. It was a good gun. A bit snappy, but not uncontrollable. Got slide bite at least once per range trip.

I've shot a Gen4 and Gen5 Glock 19 side-by-side a couple years ago at a rental range. Aside from the lack of finger grooves and the annoying half-moon cut on the Gen5 front strap, I couldn't really tell the difference. For me, I never even noticed the finger grooves on the 19/23 as they fit my hands perfectly, better than any other finger-grooved gun/grip I've tried.

I am curious about one thing. If the Gen3 Glocks are going to be produced for the CA market, will they be available elsewhere, or are they going to scale back production and limit distribution to CA? I would prefer the Gen3 to the Gen5 primarily because with the Gen3 I could still use the NY1/"-" connector trigger set-up I like. That option isn't available with the Gen5 guns, as far as I know. Not that I'm planning on getting one anytime soon, but I think at some point I'd like to add a Glock 19 to my collection.
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I've carried a Gen 3 Glock 23 daily for over 20 years, and usually shoot it at least a couple of times a week. After 10's of thousands of rounds I have never experienced slide bite on any Glock. Not once.

As a certified LEO range officer I regularly train and coach new officers, and our department issues exclusively the G22 and G23, but I also work with other departments that issue the G19 and G17. The only time I've seen someone encounter slide bite, which in my observations have been rare, is when they're holding it wrong.
 
ContinentalOp said:
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I would prefer the Gen3 to the Gen5 primarily because with the Gen3 I could still use the NY1/"-" connector trigger set-up I like. That option isn't available with the Gen5 guns, as far as I know. Not that I'm planning on getting one anytime soon, but I think at some point I'd like to add a Glock 19 to my collection.
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You can get an NY1 trigger/- connector for a Gen 5. Different parts than the ones for a Gen 3/4.

IMO, Gen 3 works best with the NY1/- combo. Gen 4 is OK with NY1/-. Gen 5, not so great with NY1/-.

Used, I'd buy a Gen 3. With aftermarket parts, you can make a Gen 3 into any kind of rocket ship you want. New, I think I'd skip the Glock and get a Shadow Systems MR920 Glock'ish clone.
 
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Faulkner said:
I've carried a Gen 3 Glock 23 daily for over 20 years, and usually shoot it at least a couple of times a week. After 10's of thousands of rounds I have never experienced slide bite on any Glock. Not once.

As a certified LEO range officer I regularly train and coach new officers, and our department issues exclusively the G22 and G23, but I also work with other departments that issue the G19 and G17. The only time I've seen someone encounter slide bite, which in my observations have been rare, is when they're holding it wrong.
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I gripped the gun properly. Unless every instructor in every training course I've taken was wrong.
 
I have/had several Glocks and find my G27.5 is markedly more accurate than any of my other Glocks. I credit this to the new barrels. Could care less about the ambi slide release and prefer the earlier finish.
 

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One thing I learned when I helped out a bit on the range with the current reserve academy is that Gen 5s for some reason do not like most dummy rounds. I mean REALLY did not like. It made some of the manipulation training more difficult.

I have a pair of modified Gen 2 Glock 17s. They do everything I want, generally. Based on what I have learned in the last few years, but for all of the money I have invested in Glocks and Glock compatible gear, I have concluded that the M&P (at least in the 2.0) is a better platform overall. I might have to get a Glock 20, as I have gear for the 21 I was issued, and the 20 is simply a good woods gun.
 
The Glock rep who frequents my employer’s shooting range frequently said that it’s the Gen 4 9mm’s and .40’s are going the way if the dodo for now. The G4’s in 9 & 40 are redundant with the G5’s. The Gen3’s will continue because they ‘predate’ many of the nutty state laws that effectively ban the G4’s. After Glock catches up with Gen 5 production, they may introduce the other big calibers as well.

I was able to shoot a prototype G22 G5 he had and I like it! A month later I now have a Gen5 G22 for agency T&E for 90 days. No it does not have the superfluous safety like my Brazilian counterparts do. It is however identical to the Brazilian model though aside from the manual safety.

My boss said as soon as an MOS version is available for agency purchase, he’ll get one so I can run optics on it. My dept. is starting to issue MOS guns to recruits & inservice.

Anyway, the G22 G5 is essentially a Glock 37 with the Gen 5 upgrades chambered in .40 cal. That’s the best & simplest description I can give. The beefier slide is something Glock should have done 30 yrs ago for the .40. It is less snappy than its predecessors & will be more durable. I think it’s well done!

Yes, a 23 & 27 will likely be following soon per Glock.

Also, this new addition to the Gen 5 line indicates that despite all the internet commandos predictions; the .40 is by no means dead in LE or in the private world. A lot of large agencies still use it primarily or authorize it for use.

I still carry .40’s and will continue to do so until I retire.
 
Doug M. said:
One thing I learned when I helped out a bit on the range with the current reserve academy is that Gen 5s for some reason do not like most dummy rounds. I mean REALLY did not like. It made some of the manipulation training more difficult.

I have a pair of modified Gen 2 Glock 17s. They do everything I want, generally. Based on what I have learned in the last few years, but for all of the money I have invested in Glocks and Glock compatible gear, I have concluded that the M&P (at least in the 2.0) is a better platform overall. I might have to get a Glock 20, as I have gear for the 21 I was issued, and the 20 is simply a good woods gun.
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Indeed. The G5 9mm Glocks have some small mods to the breachface that you can’t really see. But, it makes the extraction/ejection if dummies hard. The recruits that have G5’s get really good at yanking the slide open.

I need to see if the G22 G5 is stubborn with dummies. Ejecting a live round requires a lot more power to manipulate than the 3/4 gens.
 
Apparently Glock has ran out of changes they can make so they are starting over by reintroducing the G17 and calling it P80.

Retro guns are cool I guess.
 
Just waiting for the day that Glock puts out a carbine, If it's as utilitarian and reliable as their pistols they will sell like pancakes. Whereas the Gen 3 19 had been my fave of the half dozen Glock's I've owned, was fairly surprised at the accuracy of the gen5 with it's featured Marksman barrel, the 19 I shot was a laser.
 
There are a few Gen 3's that are still being produced. If it sells they will make it.

I will still buy my 2 Blue label guns per year and throw them in the safe. When times go crazy and they are bringing $200 to $300 over retail I will let them go.
 
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