Why buy a Glock 19X when you can buy a Sig P226 SAO Legion for a few bucks more?

THE PILGRIM said:

And the Glocks are the most reliable Lead Slingers on the Planet!

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No they aren't, Glocks aren't anymore reliable than any other decent quality semi. There in lay Glocks secret to success, their PR department. Continually convincing people their plastic is somehow better or more reliable than others...

Valmet said:

Learn to shoot a stock Glock (and any other handgun stock IMO) unless it’s only going to be a range toy.

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Pretty well true for all guns, not just handguns. One notable exception would be the addition of a scope sight on a rifle for distance shooting.

uncleted327 said:

No they aren't, Glocks aren't anymore reliable than any other decent quality semi. There in lay Glocks secret to success, their PR department. Continually convincing people their plastic is somehow better or more reliable than others...

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Disagree==Between the wife and I, we have almost a dozen Glocks=from G43 to G20, EDC to woods guns. Only FTF were when using fast, light ammo in G43 (recycled slide TOO fast!). Massood told me to go 147 HP and we never looked back!

Only mods were slide "ears" for my arthritic hands, "lite pipe" front sights, finger extensions on slides, and lasers on nightstand guns.

Take a look at the "Vickers Tactical Carry Trigger" for Glock. It's $40 and is a huge (safe) improvement. Sounds like you would like the flat face too. A different connector is also a cheap option if you want a lighter pull.

Glock upgrades don't have to be as expensive as the overwatch precision trigger.

I own one Glock 19, just because it was a good deal. It sits in the safe. I hate the feel of the grip in my hand, hate the grip angle and trigger sucks. It would take a lot of modification to make me like it. That being said. I would carry a M&P, SD or sigma any day over a glock. They fit my hand and shoot much better to me. And a Sig is leaps and bounds better in the quality department than a glock.

A buddy of mine was a glock fan for years. He has recently got on the M&P train and has threatened to sell off his Glocks. He likes the way they shoot and feel so much better. He was also a former IPSC shooter with a few trophies if that matters any.

Rosewood

Beauty and preference is in the eye of the beholder. Ford, Chevy or Dodge. Domino's, Pizza Hut or Papa Johns. Blonde, brunette or redhead. Glock, Sig or S&W. Yada, yada, yada.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing.

Beauty and preference is in the eye of the beholder. Ford, Chevy or Dodge. Domino's, Pizza Hut or Papa Johns. Blonde, brunette or redhead. Glock, Sig or S&W. Yada, yada, yada.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing.

uncleted327 said:

No they aren't, Glocks aren't anymore reliable than any other decent quality semi. There in lay Glocks secret to success, their PR department. Continually convincing people their plastic is somehow better or more reliable than others...

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I own Rugers, S&Ws, CZs, P08s, P38s, yada, yada, yada. I have been shoosting for 50+ years.

I LOVE my M39-2s, and I'd rather shoot it among all others.

That said, I have owned only TWO semis that have been 100% every day and every time. One was a Ruger LCP II and the other was a Glock 19X.

That's with handloaded ammo and I'm not talking about a few mags full, I'm talking about thousands of rounds.

alwslate said:

Why waste your money on an over priced Sig when you can buy a better gun, Glock, for way less money?

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That’s a little bit of a stretch .

uncleted327 said:

No they aren't, Glocks aren't anymore reliable than any other decent quality semi. There in lay Glocks secret to success, their PR department. Continually convincing people their plastic is somehow better or more reliable than others...

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True . My Glock 17GEN4 was 100% reliable until just over 8k rounds when the striker broke leaving me with a paperweight. They break just like any other make out there .

rosewood said:

I own one Glock 19, just because it was a good deal. It sits in the safe. I hate the feel of the grip in my hand, hate the grip angle and trigger sucks. It would take a lot of modification to make me like it. That being said. I would carry a M&P, SD or sigma any day over a glock. They fit my hand and shoot much better to me. And a Sig is leaps and bounds better in the quality department than a glock.

A buddy of mine was a glock fan for years. He has recently got on the M&P train and has threatened to sell off his Glocks. He likes the way they shoot and feel so much better. He was also a former IPSC shooter with a few trophies if that matters any.

Rosewood

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I totally agree with you but I do have a Glock 30 and after stippling it, getting an overwatch precision tac trigger, OEM minus connector and NP3 coated safety plunger, the trigger feels as good as my MP 2.0.

The GLock 19x is a pretty pistol but the NPVD finish is something to be desired. Glock could have had it cerecoted but hear cerekote does not do well against kydex holsters.

I used to have a Glock 19 and doing double taps it just wasn't as good as my MP 2.0. I will say my X5 Sig Sauer is a very fast shooting gun. So is my Sig P226 sao legion.

And to the OP just where do you see NIB Sig Legion 226 SAO’s for $1100.00 ?

robvious said:

I don't own a Glock... and won't own a Glock...
and yes I have shot Glocks... they feel terrible in my hand..
SIGs feel great in my hand.. P226 is a wonderful firearm.. I highly recommend it..

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Yep! The P226 SAO Legion is so fast and the reset is the shortest I have ever seen, even shorter than a Cz shadow 2. The P226 is also very very fun to shoot and my X5 legion with the grey guns trigger is very fast.

The only glock I own is the GLock 30 that is tricked out and I like that a lot but not a huge fan of the G19/ When I shot the G19 it just felt like driving a car with wooden wheels and brakes. Not much road feel. The MP 2.0 is very flat and also fast.

Hate the high bore axis on the Sigs. Owned two Sigs years ago. I’ll stick with Glock. If I feel I need an upgrade or other add on, most any gun store in the country will have what I need.

Sig makes outstanding guns. Just not for me.

It is great to live in a nation where not only can we legally own and use firearms, we actually have a broad range of choices available!

Revolver, semi-auto, rim-fire, center-fire, single-action, double-action, "smart action", large bore, small bore, long barrel, short barrel, big grip-frame, small grip-frame, blued, nickel-plated, fancy acrylic finishes, Parkerized, stainless, NOT TO MENTION plastic or steel or aluminum. I even remember a company making a dedicated mirror-image left-hand version of the 1911 some years back.

Something for every preference. Something for small hands and large hands, short fingers and large fingers. Something for he-man dragon-slayers and something for recoil-sensitive woosies like me.

Personally, Glock pistols have never held my interest. The idea of carrying a plastic weapon is something I never warmed up to. That doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't have what they want or what they are comfortable with. My opinions may be infallibly correct (in my opinion) but I don't want to force anyone else to agree with me.

I own Sig pistols and I think very highly of them. Picked up a P6 (West German police surplus P225 variant) back in the late 1990s for ridiculously little cash (under $200 delivered). The P230 is a fine lightweight and concealable .380 (pawn shop rescue at $225). Most recently I acquired a P229 (LE trade-in, Sig factory serviced to as new), also for incredibly low price ($388 instead of the $1087 MSRP at the time made it a no-brainer deal). I owned a P220 for a while, came to me in a trade but I just couldn't get used to the overall size and grip, so I let it go down the road.

Glocks started showing up about 1990. Sales reps were pushing Glock pistols to LE agencies all over the country, putting on dog and pony shows to sell the pistols. I remember one demo with the salesman tying the Glock to the bumper of his car and dragging it down a gravel road for about a mile to the range, then blowing the dust off and firing 3 magazines. LE prices were practically give-away deals (less than a S&W Model 10). The marketing worked, allowing Glock to continue with full-page advertising in all the gun magazines, bragging about all the LE contracts, and selling Glocks like cold beers on a hot day. Then they got all the free publicity in the world when the media talking heads started having conniption fits about "plastic guns" that couldn't be detected at airport security checks.

Get what you like. Let everyone else choose what they want.

Pretty much all handguns serve a purpose. I have a lot of pistols made by different manufacturers. I take a lot of things in consideration when I buy one. One is will my investment increase or decrease in value. You know the answer to my pre lock S&W’s. What about Glock’s.

Hasbeen1945 said:

Pretty much all handguns serve a purpose. I have a lot of pistols made by different manufacturers. I take a lot of things in consideration when I buy one. One is will my investment increase or decrease in value. You know the answer to my pre lock S&W’s. What about Glock’s.

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I seldom buy guns anymore, but when I do, I try to buy something that will retain desirability and good resale value over the long run, like an older Model 27 or 29 as examples.

For the most part, Glocks and other synthetic material/ striker guns don't fall in such a category, though they may be good guns that work well. The owners want an implement that will do for their purpose; value retention, desirability, aesthetics, etc. aren't important to these people. There's certainly nothing wrong with that perspective. Regardless of our tastes in guns, we should all feel fortunate that we have many choices.

Hasbeen1945 said:

Pretty much all handguns serve a purpose. I have a lot of pistols made by different manufacturers. I take a lot of things in consideration when I buy one. One is will my investment increase or decrease in value. You know the answer to my pre lock S&W’s. What about Glock’s.

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Some people don't care about investment potential when buying a firearm. I certainly don't. There are better ways to invest than buying firearms. People who buy Glocks generally aren't interested in turning a profit when they sell those. There's a utility factor there which can't be found in a pre lock Smith. If there was LE would all still be using revolvers.

I have a few pre-lock Smiths and a few HK's, so I know the difference. HK was the first manufacturer to use polymer frames. They don't have a high resale value either but they deliver.

The question should be: "Why buy a glock?" At all?

WCCPHD said:

The question should be: "Why buy a glock?" At all?

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They work, are extremely durable, have excellent customer support, are very high quality and very fairly priced. Is that good enough