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Tisas 1911 A1 US Army
I saw this gun reviewed in American Rifleman, Dec. '21 issue. MSRP is $420. Has anyone purchased or shot one of these yet? SDS Imports is selling them. I used to have an ATI 1911 that I paid about the same, or a little more, for a few years back and it never failed me. I gave it to my son. I'd like another cheap 1911 but I don't want junk. Okay, that sounds like "let's trade all our bad players for all their good players," but I'm not shooting in any competition or anything. I just want to see if I can replace that cheap ATI I had. It was very reliable and I could actually hit in a paper plate sized target with most of the 8 shots from 25 yards out. One always went through some portal or something to another planet. I could throw another $1500 in there for a ??? brand, but at 2 grand I would really start to get picky. Just want to see if this gun is reliable for range use and other fun stuff.
Of course the plastic stocks would go, but otherwise I'm just curious if anyone has tried one out?
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Hickok45 does a review on you tube.
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Step up AO army 1911, SA gi mil spec
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I don't have any experience with the Tisas brand. But I do with Rock Island Armory. They have a GI style 1911 with actual wood, if not real pretty, grips for about $475. You might take a look at them. My RIA has been 100% reliable and accurate.
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I have a Tisas .45 Commander. 100% dependable and accurate.
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I have one and it's an awesome gun for the money. It shoots every bit as good as my 1943 Ithaca, which I retired years ago. Now I just pretend I'm shooting my WWII .45, very satisfying.
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A buddy has one I have put 100 rounds through, the last 25 this afternoon. Well-built, pleasingly accurate, smooth-shooting. I've ordered one for myself...
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Back around when I bought my ATI, I had an RIA in my hands at a LGS. I think I held off buying that for some reason. It seems that all the videos on these inexpensive (not cheap, actually, just inexpensive) 1911s they don't seem to have any problems with them except for getting used to the trigger break and other little quirks, but nobody seems to have any problems as far as reliability or ammo (ball or hollow points) feed problems. I suppose if you use the original specs on these 1911s and no one messes with the insides, all goes well. May be why they've been around for over 100 years and going strong.
Thanks for the video suggestion. I watched a couple kinda quick skipping through and heard no problems there, on their closing comments. The SDS-imported Tisas seems to be a nice copy of the Colt; just plain Jane, nothing extra, etc.
Thanks guys.
I had my finger on the Complete Purchase button and didn't do it, just last week, because they wanted me to "Log In" or "Join" so I said (forget) you and decided to wait till after the holiday, maybe get some more info and not jump quite so fast.
Still, I will wait to see if there are any bad reports. Or, I can grab about 10 beers, my credit card, and look at guns for sale!
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According to Hickock 45 the sights aren't that great and neither is the trigger.
I have to admit, I'm a bit of a 1911 snob. I have a colt GCT that I shoot when I break out a 1911, but those are 1700 bucks new these days and that's not chump change.
For $400 bucks you get a functioning 1911 here but I would lean toward a RIA 1911 for a few more bucks. Politics if nothing more.
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I have a Tisas Hi Power, in stainless steel. Really nice fit and finish, and the gun’s been 100% reliable for the little I’ve shot it... I bought it because it was a stainless steel Hi Power and I wanted shooter that I could use instead of mucking up my Brownings. With them not being made anymore, they’re getting valuable, and I want to keep them in top condition.
With 1911s, I love Colts. I’ve got several Colts, and I’ve never been disappointed, good quality, and good shooters. In fact, I just bought myself a Christmas present last week; a new Commander in 9mm. Colt is still making a great 1911.
Based on my experience with Tisas I would think their version of the 1911 would be a well made, good value gun. As for Rock Island Arms, I own a double stack 10mm 1911. That thing is awesome, what a beast! Good gun for the money, as well. I’ve seen them creep up in price, but what hasn’t...! Guns are not getting cheaper, that’s for sure. I’d buy now before they raise prices in the new year. That’s a thing, you know...
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If you're a handloader, be aware the Tisas has no throat at all and is very fussy with cast bullets. At least for me. Other than that, it's an incredible bargain.
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If you can find a RIA for the same money, worth a hard look. I have one. Bought used for $300. It has been 100% excellent from the first round. Feeds empty cases. A local gunsmith offered to put on better sights, etc. When I got it back ... one of the best shooting 1911's I've ever owned ... and that includes National Match Colts. Sincerely. bruce.
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I learned to shoot a 1911 at Fort Gordon in 1969. My only complaint then was the small sights. I have a RIA, of which I don't remember the model, but it has much better sights. There are several other makers of GI type guns that put decent sights on them.
I have no problem with the Tisas, but I would opt for something with more visible sights.
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The small sights are actually great for precision shooting, just harder to pick up when shooting fast. Given a choice between a Tisas and one of the Philippine made 1911's... tough call. Both can be good or bad, so I think it would boil down to the quality of the parts and assembly of the individual pistol.
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Sometimes the cheaper guns are very good A long time ago Norinco imported M1911's and people called them "Chinese Junk". Then some of the IPSC shooters bought them and turned them into race guns Then they got very hard to find. Wish I had bought one, but I was into Colt's and Caspian's at the time. Still have my Colts.
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Sometimes the cheaper guns are very good A long time ago Norinco imported M1911's and people called them "Chinese Junk". Then some of the IPSC shooters bought them and turned them into race guns Then they got very hard to find. Wish I had bought one, but I was into Colt's and Caspian's at the time. Still have my Colts.
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I had one, my 1st 1911 style pistol, almost 30 years ago. Shot great.
Traded it for something.
Wish that I still had it.
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I bought my first Tisas with the small sights. Ran like **** through a goose. Very accurate taking the sights into consideration. After approximately 1000 rounds I bought the stainless model with Novak type sights. It shoots like a laser and after a few mags breaking it in, now also has 1000+ rounds with no failures. I recently changed the recoil spring to 14lb to run 185gr swc’s loaded very light. Again, no hiccups. Fantastic gun for the money. I highly recommend these to my friends
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From the safety of my armchair: just read the article in AR and I like that this one REALLY looks like the 1911A-1 I carried a long time ago. That's its niche. It even has a lanyard ring!
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From the safety of my armchair: just read the article in AR and I like that this one REALLY looks like the 1911A-1 I carried a long time ago. That's its niche. It even has a lanyard ring!
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I was never in the armed forces, but that plain-Jane look is what I like about this one. The ATI's logo kinda stuck out a little on the side of the slide; not too much, but IIRC it took up maybe 1/3 to 1/4 of the side of the slide. The RIA's logo toward the rear of the slide really shows up. I know this doesn't affect operation, but all 3 of these are close in price, all seem to get similar operation reviews, and supposedly pretty much any 1911 parts like spare mags and stocks and anything else that I feel safe to use (I'm limited to field stripping for cleaning a gun; that's it!)
I appreciate all of the comments & "reviews" and I suppose I'd have heard about anything real bad or unsafe. I've been wanting a higher-priced 1911 like the ones I've seen a lot of yinz have but I've decided on getting a nice revolver instead. You know, something one can show off at the range or wherever but also a nice shooter. If I decide on one of these < $600 1911s it'll be in January/February after the cold sets in here.
Thanks for all your help & input.
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Whatever you buy, if it doesn’t have the brown plastic GI grips (still available) it won’t look right (to my eye, anyway).
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I'd be cursing GI style sights long before worrying about some logo on the slide. I haven't read the review yet, but is the ejection port opened up some?
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I'd be cursing GI style sights long before worrying about some logo on the slide. I haven't read the review yet, but is the ejection port opened up some?
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You described the Springfield Armory Mil-Spec. I don’t own one but it is a nice looking pistol.
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I'd be cursing GI style sights long before worrying about some logo on the slide. I haven't read the review yet, but is the ejection port opened up some?
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The writeup in the American Rifleman noted the only stray from the original USGI configuration was the ejection port was opened up a bit for better reliability.
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I would think that it's hard to mess-up a 1911 (unless you're Taurus of course)..... :-)
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What's wrong with the Taurus? I reviewed one when they first came out. Put 500 rounds through it of assorted flavors including a bunch of my Lee cast wheelweight SWC loads. The only way to create a problem was to fire the round in the chamber without a mag inserted. It would stovepipe then but that was the only way to get it to fail. I don't have one but I do have a RIA mid grade Officers Model. It's been absolutely 100% reliable.
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The writeup in the American Rifleman noted the only stray from the original USGI configuration was the ejection port was opened up a bit for better reliability.
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With a quality extractor (spring steel) properly tensioned, a firing pin retainer that firmly holds the extractor and prevents rotation, and a bit of tuning on the ejector and the original small ejection port is more than large enough for reliable ejection.
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I knew somebody who had one. It proved impossible for him to clear the gun via the ejection port when loaded with 230gr hollow-points. The round in the chamber had to come out of the magwell. This probably isn't an issue with hardball. This is why I asked about the ejection port.
Sometimes it amazes me that the CZ-75/Tanfoglio derived guns eject as well as they do. The ejection port on a CZ-75 looks tight even for 9mm, but they all seem to make it out OK.
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Interesting thread. Last week, before I received my latest issue of American Rifleman I happened to be in my local gun shop and noticed he had several of these. After handling them I was impressed enough with it and the price that one came home with me.
I'll shoot some pictures and post a pre range review on it.
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I knew somebody who had one. It proved impossible for him to clear the gun via the ejection port when loaded with 230gr hollow-points. The round in the chamber had to come out of the magwell. This probably isn't an issue with hardball. This is why I asked about the ejection port.
Sometimes it amazes me that the CZ-75/Tanfoglio derived guns eject as well as they do. The ejection port on a CZ-75 looks tight even for 9mm, but they all seem to make it out OK.
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I've see that happen, but it happens with an extended ejector. An extended ejector, if it is long enough, will hit the case head before the bullet in a live round has cleared the barrel hood. It has been my experience that an extended ejector should only be just a little bit longer than the original design 1911 ejector. It only needs to be about 1/8" longer, just long enough to allow for adjusting the angle of the face of the ejector and where it contacts the case head.
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I just bought one a while back shoots as good as the Springfield Armory I had. If you are looking for a stone stock 1911 that does exactly what it's supposed to this is it. Fit and finish is as good as many costing double, or more.
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I think any no frills, no bells or whistle 1911a1 priced between $450 to $750 will serve you well.
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I posted a review of the Commander version of the Tisas M1911A1 I picked up last week. After a couple of sessions at the range I'm liking it quite well, all I've had to do is zero the rear sight to my liking. I'm giving it a thumbs up.
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