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Pawn shop find: Springfield Armory Long Slide .45
This was only out for a day when I stumbled upon it, and being a very good customer, I got a significant discount. Meaning I basically paid FMV based on most recent sold listings. IMHO it was ridiculously priced in the first place, but that's pawn shops for you. It looks like that pricing was based on some ported models that actually sold for a lot more than these "standard" models have sold. I exceeded the max. I'd normally spend by about 100% but figured, what the heck (I do have a pretty low max. as far as firearms go). Not sure I wanted or "needed" a long slide, but it just struck my fancy and I've never seen one in the wild.
Serial number N569xxx. Per SA customer service, manufactured August 2011. Very good condition or better. No significant wear, with some light handling marks, mostly on the matte finish, most probably from holstering in the plastic "Gear" holster. No dings or significant scratches, etc.
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That's a great grab you got there. Let us know how it shoots.
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What comes to my mind seeing that Long Slide is Arnold Scwarzenager shopping at the Alamo Sport Shop in the movie "Terminator",
"Give me the 12 gauge pump, the .45 Long Slide with lazer sighting, and the Uzi 9mm, also a 40 watt plasma gun"......
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Nice grab !!!
My only objection to Springfield 1911s (and I have 2) is the model name on the slide. Kind of silly to mark it “long slide” - that’s kind of obvious . How about just the maker name and a model number somewhere? And their newest ones - “Ronin” and “Operator”. I wouldn’t buy one just for that reason. What’s a “Ronin” anyways ? Same with Wilson Combat / Dan Wesson, etc. But …. To each his own
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Very cool.
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Nice grab !!!
My only objection to Springfield 1911s (and I have 2) is the model name on the slide. Kind of silly to mark it “long slide” - that’s kind of obvious . How about just the maker name and a model number somewhere? And their newest ones - “Ronin” and “Operator”. I wouldn’t buy one just for that reason. What’s a “Ronin” anyways ? Same with Wilson Combat / Dan Wesson, etc. But …. To each his own
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I mostly agree with you. Up until about 3-4 years ago, I think this (the Long Slide) was the only SA 1911 with something other than "1911A1" on the left side of the slide (The "TRP" on that model was marked aft of the slide serrations, but the left side was still marked "1911A1"). I always liked that consistency, and that's what I always disliked about Kimbers: they'd put the individual model name on the right side of every slide. If it was (obviously) stainless, they'd add "stainless" to the slide. Even if it came from the factory with Crimson Trace grips, they'd put "Crimson" on the slide. Hated that. Then SA decides to follow the Kimber model and put the model name on its slides, in an even more obvious location, i.e., the left side of the slide, albeit in relatively small font. I think it mostly looks terrible, especially "Milspec." Ironically, the only one I think is an improvement is the very subtle "TRP" on the recent models.
BTW, to answer your question, a ronin is a samauri without a master. Not entirely sure how that fits in the context of a 1911, but I think it's a fairly cool name.
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I remember when you could actually get some great deals on guns in pawn shops. The last few times I've been in them though they had their prices set right around MSRP for (naturally) used guns. Too bad. It used to be fun going into a pawn shop in another town just to look around.
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I remember when you could actually get some great deals on guns in pawn shops. The last few times I've been in them though they had their prices set right around MSRP for (naturally) used guns. Too bad. It used to be fun going into a pawn shop in another town just to look around.
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I agree. There are still deals to be had, but during the two-year Covid period, they pretty much went nuts, like most gun sellers. Paying in the ballpark of the few comparables I could find for this particular gun is what nowadays constitutes "a good deal."
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What comes to my mind seeing that Long Slide is Arnold Scwarzenager shopping at the Alamo Sport Shop in the movie "Terminator",
"Give me the 12 gauge pump, the .45 Long Slide with lazer sighting, and the Uzi 9mm, also a 40 watt plasma gun"......

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Actually its "Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watts range"
"Only what you see pal"
"Uzi 9 millimeter"
And it doesn't end well for the gun store owner.
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I felt obligated to buy one of those about ten years ago. (Long boring story). I was involved in a Sherriff's Dept bullseye league. Shot a match with it and took it home to clean it. I couldn't get the barrel out of the slide. Still can't.
I recently found a competent gunsmith and will have him give it a going over.
I remember it shooting well, but all the edges were pretty sharp.
Neat gun.
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I always thought the long slide 1911's were cool, but never cool enough for me to buy. Yes, an AMT long slide would be neat, but only for the Terminator connection. The longer sight radius would certainly make precision shooting a bit easier, but I prefer the handiness of a Commander size 1911.
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What comes to my mind seeing that Long Slide is Arnold Scwarzenager shopping at the Alamo Sport Shop in the movie "Terminator",
"Give me the 12 gauge pump, the .45 Long Slide with lazer sighting, and the Uzi 9mm, also a 40 watt plasma gun"......

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The "Long Slide" Arnold uses in the movie is in fact a stainless steel ... AMT Hardballer Longslide (1980) When AMT came out with the stainless steel Hardballer ... about 1977 , nobody made a S.S. 1911 , not even Colt ... I got a Hardballer in 1979 and thought it the best thing since sliced bread ... then the Longslide came out ... but I was happy-happy with my Hardballer ...
In fact it's sitting on this desk as I type ...
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The "Long Slide" Arnold uses in the movie is in fact a stainless steel ... AMT Hardballer Longslide (1980) When AMT came out with the stainless steel Hardballer ... about 1977 , nobody made a S.S. 1911 , not even Colt ... I got a Hardballer in 1979 and thought it the best thing since sliced bread ... then the Longslide came out ... but I was happy-happy with my Hardballer ...
In fact it's sitting on this desk as I type ...
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Finally one day he soaked it in 30 weight motor oil and it worked! After he got about 500 rounds through it, it would work with just a good gun oil.
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Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. And necessity is the mother of invention. How did he get the idea to do that?
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Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. And necessity is the mother of invention. How did he get the idea to do that?
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Option of last resort. He had tried everything we could all think of.....
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The only thing rollmarked on my longslide.
Is Ed Brown Custom.
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I have a Clark heavy long slide .45 that had that designation clearly set out on the slide. I found it in a hole in the wall gun shop in a little strip plaza in the Cleveland suburbs. My brother and I were celebrating a joyous second opinion on my heart from the Cleveland Clinic by running the town roads instead of taking the freeway back to my brother's house. We were running U.S. 322 when we saw the gun shop and did a quick turnaround back to it. We went into the shop and there it was. I never thought I would ever see a Jim Clark gun, much less have a chance to buy one. My brother said the shop owner needed a mop because I was drooling so much. After a long conversation with the owner we finally got down to $$$ and he made me a decent offer. I put down at least one Golden Dollar to seal the deal and we got the money from the bank and I became the owner of the Clark Heavy Long Slide and had it shipped to my FFL holder in PA. It's a beautiful piece of work.
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The Long Slides made good bowling pin guns back in the day. Not too many pin matches around now.
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My friend used this early (checkered front strap) comped, V16 long slide as his Pin Match gun. When he passed away the family asked me to sell many of his guns. I really thought about buying it myself but ultimately it went to one of the guys we shot pin matches with.
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I have a Clark heavy long slide .45 that had that designation clearly set out on the slide. I found it in a hole in the wall gun shop in a little strip plaza in the Cleveland suburbs. My brother and I were celebrating a joyous second opinion on my heart from the Cleveland Clinic by running the town roads instead of taking the freeway back to my brother's house. We were running U.S. 322 when we saw the gun shop and did a quick turnaround back to it. We went into the shop and there it was. I never thought I would ever see a Jim Clark gun, much less have a chance to buy one. My brother said the shop owner needed a mop because I was drooling so much. After a long conversation with the owner we finally got down to $$$ and he made me a decent offer. I put down at least one Golden Dollar to seal the deal and we got the money from the bank and I became the owner of the Clark Heavy Long Slide and had it shipped to my FFL holder in PA. It's a beautiful piece of work.
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I bought one from a fellow BE shooter who was getting out of the sport and never got around to shooting it in a match myself. Now that my BE days have wound down it doesn't see much use. I took it out to the range a few months back and shot it some - its much heavier than I remembered!
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When I was stationed in Calif., one of my Sgt.'s bought an AMT Hardballer in SS. This was 1987. He had more problems with FTF than the law allows. We tried every type of gun oil, clp and greases trying to get that gun to run. Finally one day he soaked it in 30 weight motor oil and it worked! After he got about 500 rounds through it, it would work with just a good gun oil.
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I got an AMT Long Slide when they first came out. It had a great trigger right out of the box and it functioned flawlessly until, after thousands of rounds, the barrel split. I ordered a no-name barrel on-line and it was easy to fit. While I was waiting for the barrel I used it as an opportunity to have a local smith mill-in some better sights and port the slide. Its still a great Pin Gun but the local pin matches went away during covid and the primer shortage.
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Around here the bowling alleys all started to recycle their pins
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They used to throw them away when they got scuffed up or damaged. Now they just put new covers on them, so pins are hard to come by.
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I got an AMT Long Slide when they first came out. It had a great trigger right out of the box and it functioned flawlessly until, after thousands of rounds, the barrel split. I ordered a no-name barrel on-line and it was easy to fit. While I was waiting for the barrel I used it as an opportunity to have a local smith mill-in some better sights and port the slide. Its still a great Pin Gun but the local pin matches went away during covid and the primer shortage.
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Low quality, two-piece barrel. Unfortunately, AMT would use low-cost parts to control the price of their finished pistols and still make a profit.
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Low quality, two-piece barrel. Unfortunately, AMT would use low-cost parts to control the price of their finished pistols and still make a profit.
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All true, but if I came across one at a decent price, I’d pick it up solely for the Terminator connection. Cool movies are the reason I have a number of the items I have.
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I shot bowling pins just last week...
Until they threw me out of the alley!
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All true, but if I came across one at a decent price, I’d pick it up solely for the Terminator connection. Cool movies are the reason I have a number of the items I have.
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That's why I have handcuffs, a S&W 645, a Galco 1980's era shoulder holster, and an early production 6906. I just had to get my Crockett on.
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Did it by any chance come with a spare recoil spring? If so, then you're the proud owner of the rare Springfield Armory V-16, one of the very few firearms which is rated for .45 Super.
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This was only out for a day when I stumbled upon it, and being a very good customer, I got a significant discount. Meaning I basically paid FMV based on most recent sold listings. IMHO it was ridiculously priced in the first place, but that's pawn shops for you. It looks like that pricing was based on some ported models that actually sold for a lot more than these "standard" models have sold. I exceeded the max. I'd normally spend by about 100% but figured, what the heck (I do have a pretty low max. as far as firearms go). Not sure I wanted or "needed" a long slide, but it just struck my fancy and I've never seen one in the wild.
Serial number N569xxx. Per SA customer service, manufactured August 2011. Very good condition or better. No significant wear, with some light handling marks, mostly on the matte finish, most probably from holstering in the plastic "Gear" holster. No dings or significant scratches, etc.
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That one is quite a bit newer than mine. My serial is N406xxx and it is from 2001
Also mine is a V-16 ported model chambered for 45 SUPER. I did change the grips on mine
If that one shoots anything line mine, you will be very happy with it
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What comes to my mind seeing that Long Slide is Arnold Scwarzenager shopping at the Alamo Sport Shop in the movie "Terminator",
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I have always loved long slide 1911s. In addition to the 45ACP , 7" AMT HardBaller long slide. I also have one of the 7" Javelinas that were chambered for 10MM
I have had good luck with all of my AMT/IAI 1911s. The only problen that I can recall in the last 3 or 4 decades is that one of the magazines had it's floorplate break the weld during a Match. Harry Sanford sent me 4 magazines to replace it
However those pictured above are not my only 1911 based long slides, Les Baer built me a 6" Targetmaster back in the nineties. Several summers ago I built THOR's Hammer, a 6" 10MM 1911 and just this week, Briley delivered the barrel for the 6" 38 SUPER that I am working on right now
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For a short time, AMT was renamed IAI - Irwindale Arms Incorporated. They later went back to AMT (Arcadia Machine Tool). I have an IAI Javelina Longslide in 10mm, along with a Skipper in .40 S&W. A couple of years ago I bought a 7" .40 S&W barrel off eBay for the Longslide but haven't tried it yet.
I used to have a .45 ACP AMT Longslide, but I gave it to a niece for her birthday when she turned 21. Somewhere along the way I acquired a separate .45 Longslide top end.
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I have a Clark Longslide built in 1964 by the master himself. Just as tight and accurate today as it was when built. Absolutely wonderful gun.
This one is a home made gun that I picked up off GB cheap about 8 years ago. As near as I can figure, sometime in about the late 1960s or early 70s this guy bought himself a bunch of parts and tried to put together his own longslide target gun. Sadly, he failed miserably. Nothing fit together properly, I had to beat the slide off the frame and the trigger was well over 12 lbs and gritty as hell. I can only guess he gave up and just shelved the project until it finally landed on GB where I picked it up fairly cheap and made a project of it.
After much work, I finally got it running reliably and pretty accurate. Its still a work in progress as I feel its capable of more. Every couple of years a break it out and tinker with it a bit more. But I'm happy with its current status. 
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We have to remember ... the early days of stainless steel in guns ... and the early AMT's were sort of experimental in reguards to galling , lubrication ... what worked and what didn't .
Also sort on inovatative with AMT and the 1911 / stainless steel was the investment casting process they were trying , like Bill Ruger used ...
1977 was a whole lot different then ... not a lot was known about stainless , what it would or wouldn't do when made into a 1911 .
I bought mine because I thought a Gold Cup (adjustable sights) and stainless in a 1911 45 acp would be just the thing for hot , humid Louisiana where anything will rust if given half a chance .
I got lucky ... I was told to use a good gun grease on the rails and rubbing points ( gunsmith J.B. Wood) and it has always functioned just fine , Don't use CLP or oil ... Grease is the secrete .
P.S. Lucas Red-N-Tacky lithium grease works extremely well also)
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And about as much fun as you could have ...with your pant's on !
The two local bowling alley's were more than glad to give us their worn out bowling pins when they relaced them ... We were recycling when it wasn't cool !
If you didn't shoot a 1911 in 45 acp you were behind from the get-go .
I still hang on to a First Place trophy I won ... I will confess the two top shooter's in our league ... wern't there that day .
Gary
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I would like to get a 45acp long slide someday.
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This one is a home made gun that I picked up off GB cheap about 8 years ago. As near as I can figure, sometime in about the late 1960s or early 70s this guy bought himself a bunch of parts and tried to put together his own longslide target gun. Sadly, he failed miserably. Nothing fit together properly, I had to beat the slide off the frame and the trigger was well over 12 lbs and gritty as hell. I can only guess he gave up and just shelved the project until it finally landed on GB where I picked it up fairly cheap and made a project of it.
After much work, I finally got it running reliably and pretty accurate. Its still a work in progress as I feel its capable of more. Every couple of years a break it out and tinker with it a bit more. But I'm happy with its current status. 
The custom laser engraved grips are a little touch of my own. The serial number is 29999. Four of a kind.

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The first M1911 that I ever built was a carbon steel gun. I had to beat the slide off and on with a rubber mallet. A friend, who had built several M1911's, said shoot it. We did and the pistol cycled fine and in fact worked like a champ ever after. It was surprising the way it worked out.
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I shot bowling pins just last week...
Until they threw me out of the alley! 
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