HK prices

So a couple months ago, I was shooting with # 1 son, and he dragged out this HK P7 M8, that had only ben fired a couple times. While shooting it he explains about the cost of the M8, M10 and M13 models.

Needless to say, it was very nice to shoot, but what in the world makes a striker fire semi auto worth what these things go for? I see them for 2500 to 8000 dollars. What am I missing?

I think he paid 1400 for his 9-10 years ago

You have now entered the Twilight Zone of collectable HK pistols.

It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call, The (HK) Twilight Zone.

LostintheOzone said:

You have now entered the Twilight Zone of collectable HK pistols.

It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call, The (HK) Twilight Zone.

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I am sure it is all of that for the prices they go for

I own a few HK pistols (P7PSP, USP 9; .40, & .45, and Mark 23) but they are grossly overpriced. Extra magazines are also expensive. As far as the P7’s, it comes down to supply vs. demand.

Whatever you’re missing I am too. I like my HK rollers but I’ve never warmed up to the P7’s.

They have a cult like following. So much so that 10 yrs ago the owner of HK Parts Net was sentenced to 4 yrs in prison for illegally importing/selling over 210 P7’s. The lure of big money was his downfall.

I’m sure that there will be positive input by some here explaining what we’re missing.

Jim

First you have to understand that when I bought my P7M8 new in ‘93 it was almost a $1000.00. Just run that in an inflation calculator, that more than doubles the price. Then they quit making them. Then you have to factor in that some people are just crazy.

LostintheOzone said:

You have now entered the Twilight Zone of collectable HK pistols.

It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call, The (HK) Twilight Zone.

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HKs in general, it’s not just pistols. Multiplied if it’s out of production.

Welcome my friend to the HK den of iniquity.

Bust out that wallet and don't forget HK hates you.

Average price is around $3500 but they arent selling right now in the down economy. Those that you see for 8000 are probably complete and unfired or are limited edition like the 1 in 500 models

I'm unsure why the OP thinks it being a striker fired gun should prevent it from being sought after.

Die Hard 1 maybe?

I bought a used HK 91 (308) in the mid 80's for $600 It was ridged stocked and came with: 1 Mag, the sling, carry handle & Bi-pod. I added 9 mags, and a HK brand traditional scope base, and a cheap carry case, in the 90's (During the first assault rifle ban) I got $2500 for the group. I thought that was radicicols money at the time. However the gun shot 100-yard open sight (10 shot) groups with Israeli Ball ammo! and shot 1" (5 shot) 400-yard groups with hand loads.

I sold the gun to financially help out a Missionary and thought I would pick up another one soon; Fat Chance!

In the later 90's I knew a local lawyer that had 3, GSG-9 Police Sniper rifles with factory scopes that cost $5000 each. I also almost bought a German Army Sniper Rifle with their Army Sniper scope (fixed 6x) for $4000. All the "Sniper Rifles" are built on a modified HK 21 action, It is just stamped sheet metal welded together. They do shoot very well, but don't cost much to make and should never have cost those old prices, let alone what astronomical prices they bring today!

The 308 Win. Remington PSP series production Sniper Rifles were better that either HKs, at least mine was. The HS Presession Sniper Rifles are ever better! The FBI says the average police sniper shot is 75 yards (as of 2005) and the PSP are "Shot in the eyeball" at 400 yard accurate! Just how more dead (much deader?) can you make a bad guy with a better rifle? And why buy the foreign rifle?

Ivan

Narragansett said:

So a couple months ago, I was shooting with # 1 son, and he dragged out this HK P7 M8, that had only ben fired a couple times. While shooting it he explains about the cost of the M8, M10 and M13 models.

Needless to say, it was very nice to shoot, but what in the world makes a striker fire semi auto worth what these things go for? I see them for 2500 to 8000 dollars. What am I missing?

I think he paid 1400 for his 9-10 years ago

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I own many HKs.

Mostly USPs along with a few long guns

I have owned my P7 PSP for perhaps three+ decades.


The P7s are not ordinary striker fired pistols, they are far more complex than that

They are squeeze cockers. Until you grip the pistol it is uncocked. Further it is gas operated which makes it soft shooting. The original PSP gets quite hot during extended shooting. The P7 M8 reduces the heat issue with the addition of a heat sheild along with a few other changes

The fixed barrel made thesesquite accurate

Mine was in a gear bag onboard an aircraft that had it's wing ripped off in flight. As a result mine fell 8,000 feet. It worked just fine while the Desert Eagle that was in the same bag had it.s frame twisted.

The P7 family is very well built and like many German things it is over-engineered

With the poor exchange rate between the German Mark and US Dollar back in the Day most German were expensive. Havi ng been out of production for about a quarter Century prices on clean examples tend to rise

colt_saa said:

I own many HKs.

Mostly USPs along with a few long guns

I have owned my P7 PSP for perhaps three+ decades.

The P7s are not ordinary striker fired pistols, they are far more complex than that

They are squeeze cockers. Until you grip the pistol it is uncocked. Further it is gas operated which makes it soft shooting. The original PSP gets quite hot during extended shooting. The P7 M8 reduces the heat issue with the addition of a heat sheild along with a few other changes

The fixed barrel made thesesquite accurate

Mine was in a gear bag onboard an aircraft that had it's wing ripped off in flight. As a result mine fell 8,000 feet. It worked just fine while the Desert Eagle that was in the same bag had it.s frame twisted.

The P7 family is very well built and like many German things it is over-engineered

With the poor exchange rate between the German Mark and US Dollar back in the Day most German were expensive. Havi ng been out of production for about a quarter Century prices on clean examples tend to rise

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It's a sellers market for sure.

I have 2 H&K's, the 91 for a full 40 years. I couldn't/wouldn't replace them today. And yes, from personal HK CS experience: "You suck and we hate you!" Joe

I never could afford an H&K rifle. I did shoot an HK-33 (fully automatic) at Firearms Instructor In-Service Training one year and I absolutely fell in love with it.

Had a HK-91 for several years. Reliable, accurate (great open sights), dirt cheap mags and just plain cool. However it was just too long for short arms, beat brass, center of gravity too far forward and recoiled too much for a rifle that didn't fit. Used the money for FAL and accessories.

Never had the opportunity to shoot a HK pistol, but liked the specs of the P7M8.

Since this is about HK and prices, I thought I'd add my own bewilderment when it comes to their new-gun prices.

USP...their oldest 'modern era' polymer...4-figures
P2000...their next oldest 8's into the 9's
P30..7's to 8's
VP 9 6's to 7's.

Why would those older 'tank' Use-less P's and P2K's still warrant that? I mean, save for one or two of them, there is NO collectibility factor involved. .

Being in the pawnshop biz has favored me on a couple of H&Ks. A forfeited loan on an USP40 for $200. Gifted that to my son, it is his favorite semiauto. Other time, about 2 03 years ago, a customer was in need of cash for a new business venture and sold me several quality handguns one of which was a P7 M8, 2 mags, original case & paperwork. Paid $800 for it. Also sold me a German mfg. Sig P210 and a couple of others. Both now reside in my safe. I shoot the P210 better than any other semiauto I have ever shot. I'm hit & miss with the P7, I have trouble holding the squeeze cocker. Need to work on my hand strength!
Others that have shot it are amazed at the accuracy.
Would I pay today's prices? No way.

H&K has a very loyal fan club and as long as those fans are willing to pay for the guns, the prices will not go down even though they have stabilized lately.
I have never understood why people buy expensive HK SL8s and try to get them to look like the rather unexciting HK G36, when an AR that shoots as well or better can be bought at a fraction of the price.