I See I'm Not Alone

[MrHowell]

Howdy all just thought I would let you know of my experience with my 15-22 which I picked up this past Saturday morning and took to the range this afternoon I put about 35 rounds of Rem GB through it with about 3 ftf than a whoosh and bang and my extractor was gone with the exception of the spring and a small piece of the extractor which I found on the floor of the range the case was still in the chamber but had blown off half the rim. Needless to say I call Smith and they were going to send me a shipping label but I said I would take it back to Gander as they are closer than Fed-EX for me. The guy I spoke to at Smith said they have had issues with the extractors and it would take about 2 to 3 weeks to get back to me. Kind of a shame as I had gotten it zeroed with the first 2 mags I put through it and now its gone I hope this fix whatever they do will take care of the problem as it was a very sweet shooting little weapon and I was looking forward to customizing it and had already ordered several things for it. Will let you know how it goes and as I'm seeing on this forum I'm not alone with this problem.

 

[TxShooter2k9]

nope, not alone , i got mine early September, and had to send it off 4 days after i got it, took about a month to get back. They'll take care of ya, and even give you a couple extra mags for your trouble.

 

[27 Beck]

Howdy all just thought I would let you know of my experience with my 15-22 which I picked up this past Saturday morning and took to the range this afternoon I put about 35 rounds of Rem GB through it with about 3 ftf than a whoosh and bang and my extractor was gone with the exception of the spring and a small piece of the extractor which I found on the floor of the range the case was still in the chamber but had blown off half the rim. Needless to say I call Smith and they were going to send me a shipping label but I said I would take it back to Gander as they are closer than Fed-EX for me. The guy I spoke to at Smith said they have had issues with the extractors and it would take about 2 to 3 weeks to get back to me. Kind of a shame as I had gotten it zeroed with the first 2 mags I put through it and now its gone I hope this fix whatever they do will take care of the problem as it was a very sweet shooting little weapon and I was looking forward to customizing it and had already ordered several things for it. Will let you know how it goes and as I'm seeing on this forum I'm not alone with this problem.

Yup, you have had a lot of company.

Seems like the 15-22 + Remington Golden Bullets = Out of Battery experience for a lot of owners. Guy on another forum said the Rem GBs he had, some would not go in his 15-22 barrel all the way, even hand fed. That is really out of spec.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Guy on another forum said the Rem GBs he had, some would not go in his 15-22 barrel all the way, even hand fed. That is really out of spec.

Have had same GB experience with Ruger 22/45.

Maybe I am getting too old to remember correctly, but there was a time when Rem was pretty much the standard for .22LR plinking. I liked the small milk carton container too....

 

[Nav]

Maybe the Remington ammo is an issue. I've put about 1000 rounds of CCI Blazer and Federal bulk pack with no issues of any kind except for one FTF when I didn't put the last round in the magazine properly. I've had problems with the Remington ammo in other semi auto pistols and also semi auto rifles and will no longer buy it at any price. Whatever waxy substance they put on the stuff causes too many problems IMO.

 

[27 Beck]

Maybe the Remington ammo is an issue. I've put about 1000 rounds of CCI Blazer and Federal bulk pack with no issues of any kind except for one FTF when I didn't put the last round in the magazine properly. I've had problems with the Remington ammo in other semi auto pistols and also semi auto rifles and will no longer buy it at any price. Whatever waxy substance they put on the stuff causes too many problems IMO.

I tend to agree. The instructions that came with my Advantage Arms .22 conversion for my Glock specifically said not to use Remington Golden Bullets.

 

[floatch]

Remington bulk ammo sent my extractor to the big range in the sky today. Bummer, I was just getting my sight zeroed in too. I tried the remainders in my Dad's Ruger pistol, didn't blow it up, but had several failures to load properly, failure to eject, jams, etc.
Lame ammo.

 

[Vulcan Bob]

I was lucky I guess, tried to shoot the Remington Golden's out of my 15-22 and they would not fully chamber. The one carton of these things I have are marked (rifle only) as they were crap out of my revolvers, now they are marked (bolt rifle only), am sort wondering if i should just pull the bullets and deactivate the primeing compound and powder and just crap-can the stuff.

 

[maxicooper]

I really had bad times with Rem. GB as well.

 

[ntobroken]

A lot of people are picking on the Remington Golden ammo in this forum. I've been buying RG myself mostly due to lack of availability of anything else but have found it to be decent for the most part, especially for the price point. I get one or two FTF's per 100 when shooting it out of my Smith 22A-1 pistol but I've had zero issues yet shooting them out of my 15-22. I do expect an FTF sooner or later but I'm not at all paranoid about it. Quit your griping and rumor spreading folks and stop blaming issues on your ammo. S&W has a fantastic warranty, call em and get your piece looked at. They will make it right.
(And if you want to argue the ammo thing then start off by telling me why my 15-22 shoots everything I put in it.)

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

A lot of people are picking on the Remington Golden ammo in this forum. I've been buying RG myself mostly due to lack of availability of anything else but have found it to be decent for the most part, especially for the price point. I get one or two FTF's per 100 when shooting it out of my Smith 22A-1 pistol but I've had zero issues yet shooting them out of my 15-22. I do expect an FTF sooner or later but I'm not at all paranoid about it. Quit your griping and rumor spreading folks and stop blaming issues on your ammo. S&W has a fantastic warranty, call em and get your piece looked at. They will make it right.
(And if you want to argue the ammo thing then start off by telling me why my 15-22 shoots everything I put in it.)

I'm not sure folks are "picking" on Rem GB, but rather relaying their experience with it.

I have been using Remmington .22lr for decades. I used to think of it as pretty much the standard for .22lr plinking. But the fact of the matter is that GB does not function well in a variety of modern semi-auto actions. I suspect Remington's bullet profile has something to do with the difference when comparing to Federal.

I used to have fairly clean hands after handling Rem GB. Now I feel like I'm in a James Bond movie "Gold Finger" after handling a just a few so-called "plated" (as Remmington describes) GB rounds. It's about like calling a lead bullet wax plated. Federal's plating does not come off in my hands.

I have a 22A too. Failure to feed, while not a significant problem with Rem GB, is noticibly higher than Federal. I can't remember the last time I had a failure to fire with Federal in either my 22A or Ruger 22/45, but Rem GB are around 2/100. And when dirty, the Rem GB will often not fully chamber in the 22A. My Rugers 22/45 pretty much feeds anything, even when disgustingly dirty.

Once a Rem GB manages to make it past the muzzle, it performs well. I have found the Rem GB to be more consistent than Federal. Federal feels like I'm shooting light and heavy bullets or differing powder charges, and it shows in accuracy at 100 yards with my Savage bolt action.

 

[3rd Gen Neal]

A lot of people are picking on the Remington Golden ammo in this forum. I've been buying RG myself mostly due to lack of availability of anything else but have found it to be decent for the most part, especially for the price point. I get one or two FTF's per 100 when shooting it out of my Smith 22A-1 pistol but I've had zero issues yet shooting them out of my 15-22. I do expect an FTF sooner or later but I'm not at all paranoid about it. Quit your griping and rumor spreading folks and stop blaming issues on your ammo. S&W has a fantastic warranty, call em and get your piece looked at. They will make it right.
(And if you want to argue the ammo thing then start off by telling me why my 15-22 shoots everything I put in it.)

Wow, hope you're feeling better. If reading peoples takes on rimfire ammo on a hobby forum got you fired up I sure don't want to be around after you read the newspaper, you might roll it up and start beating people w-it.

 

[3rd Gen Neal]

I'm not sure folks are "picking" on Rem GB, but rather relaying their experience with it.

I have been using Remmington .22lr for decades. I used to think of it as pretty much the standard for .22lr plinking. But the fact of the matter is that GB does not function well in a variety of modern semi-auto actions. I suspect Remington's bullet profile has something to do with the difference when comparing to Federal.

I used to have fairly clean hands after handling Rem GB. Now I feel like I'm in a James Bond movie "Gold Finger" after handling a just a few so-called "plated" (as Remmington describes) GB rounds. It's about like calling a lead bullet wax plated. Federal's plating does not come off in my hands.

I have a 22A too. Failure to feed, while not a significant problem with Rem GB, is noticibly higher than Federal. I can't remember the last time I had a failure to fire with Federal in either my 22A or Ruger 22/45, but Rem GB are around 2/100. And when dirty, the Rem GB will often not fully chamber in the 22A. My Rugers 22/45 pretty much feeds anything, even when disgustingly dirty.

Once a Rem GB manages to make it past the muzzle, it performs well. I have found the Rem GB to be more consistent than Federal. Federal feels like I'm shooting light and heavy bullets or differing powder charges, and it shows in accuracy at 100 yards with my Savage bolt action.

I agree. Used to shoot Rem 22lr by the thousands back in the mid 80's from those milk carton looking bulk packs, was great. That doesn't seem to be the case these days. Not just rimfire either. The past few times I bought a Remington Mega Pack (250) in 9mm or .45 I had not 1-2 but like 5-6 dead primers. That's not acceptable, to me anyways.

 

[27 Beck]

A lot of people are picking on the Remington Golden ammo in this forum. I've been buying RG myself mostly due to lack of availability of anything else but have found it to be decent for the most part, especially for the price point. I get one or two FTF's per 100 when shooting it out of my Smith 22A-1 pistol but I've had zero issues yet shooting them out of my 15-22. I do expect an FTF sooner or later but I'm not at all paranoid about it. Quit your griping and rumor spreading folks and stop blaming issues on your ammo. S&W has a fantastic warranty, call em and get your piece looked at. They will make it right.
(And if you want to argue the ammo thing then start off by telling me why my 15-22 shoots everything I put in it.)

Owners are just relaying their experiences with their guns and ammo. Lot of folks, including myself, have had issues with certain ammo brands. One can experience an out of battery (OOB) experience with any ammo. Same with a primer being struck but bullet doesn't go bang. But it "seems" to occur more often with Remington. I have had both the cartridge not going bang when struck and OOBs with Remington. So can I blame Federal, CCI, or other mfgr?

And for your rifle working with all brands of ammo without issue, congratulations. We are dealing with .001 here in tolerance with ammo, feeding, and etc. Yours all come together in a great shooter. Some of us haven't been so lucky.

Get 20 or whatever amount of the same build vehicle together. One will be faster than all the rest. One will be slower. Stuff happens.

Again, congrats on having a 15-22 that performs well.

 

[ntobroken]

Okay okay, all good feedback guys and maybe I was a bit harsh but this is not the only thread where the GB's are getting bashed and I was thinking the accumulation of "me too's" were enough to make this look like a sigma trigger thread. I'll settle down now and say that my own personal experiences have been more than acceptable with GB in the 15-22. I've also shot a bunch of 40 year old CCI's and Federal High Powers that I had laying around. Contrary to Chattanooga's experiences I've had the same amount of duds (FTF's) with bulk Federal ammo in my 22A as the GB (and I can't figure that one out because the primer strikes on the casings all look great, but that's a different issue) but I've not yet had any bulk Federal on hand to try in the 15-22.

Anyway, my apologies for getting riled up.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

(and I can't figure that one out because the primer strikes on the casings all look great, but that's a different issue)

One of the guys I shoot with at the range is a Smith devote. He uses only CCI for .22lr. I mentioned to him that I had several GBs that failed to fire with my 22A, but looked like good strikes. He put them in his revolver and spun em' around a couple times. On the second time around, (that would be three strikes each) 1 went bang out of 7 or 8. My Savage bolt action does not see the volume as my semi-autos, but I don't think I have ever had a failure to fire with any brand, including GB. Go figure....

ps. Glad you're feeling better

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

The past few times I bought a Remington Mega Pack (250) in 9mm or .45 I had not 1-2 but like 5-6 dead primers. That's not acceptable, to me anyways.

Absolutley! Factory centerfire ammo, no matter if it is practice ammo, should not have that many failures out of a 100,000+. A half dozen failures out of a few hundred rounds is rediculous.

 

[3rd Gen Neal]

Absolutley! Factory centerfire ammo, no matter if it is practice ammo, should not have that many failures out of a 100,000+. A half dozen failures out of a few hundred rounds is rediculous.

Yes sir it is. My fave (when I can find it) for range centerfire is Fiocchi. Burns super clean, accurate, and affordable. Midway has it on and off. My Remington days are over I'm afraid.