Casings from M&P 9 flying in my face!!
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Hotcoley
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Sending it back
Well, after much thought and testing, Ive decided to send my M&P back to S&W for a second time. The first time they replaced the ejector and did a barrel modification. I took it out today and ran about 50 rounds through it and now alot of the casings fly off to the LEFT of me landing on my shoulder, then off to the right, and still at my face. VERY FRUSTRATING, so we will see if they fix it this time!!
Well, after much thought and testing, Ive decided to send my M&P back to S&W for a second time. The first time they replaced the ejector and did a barrel modification. I took it out today and ran about 50 rounds through it and now alot of the casings fly off to the LEFT of me landing on my shoulder, then off to the right, and still at my face. VERY FRUSTRATING, so we will see if they fix it this time!!
BrianE
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Can you request a new M&P9 after so many issues?
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Hotcoley
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UPDATE: M&P9: Got it back from S&W. This is the 2nd return. I sent just the gun in, no magazines, and it got sent back with a 15 round magazine in it, which I thought was nice. so anyways, this time around they replaced the extractor spring, replaced extractor, barrel modification, and replaced ejector. Casings still fly at my face, but I noticed when I used the magazine they sent me, the casings went where they were suppose to most of the time, but when I used a magazine that was original to the gun, it was worse. So maybe my mags. are bad? Called S&W to see if they could send me some new mags., they said yes if I wanted to send in my old ones. I've pretty much given up though. I'm tired of fighting with the dand thing. I'm getting rid of it and getting a Glock 17 9mm. I heard they are quite reliable and that's what I need. Thanks anyways S&W, but no thanks.
Weird, just weird. Get something that works for you but I don't understand how mags can affect ejection. Were you ever able to tie it to any particular brand or weight of bullet? I worked on a 5906 that would work with two brands but would not extract one brand reliably at all. I know it is not the same gun or problem but it did teach me about ammo differences and tolerance combination or stacking.
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remat457
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You might consider renting a Glock 17 at local range first. Your complaints about the M&P are not unheard of about Glocks. Although I think the 17 would be a good choice in general.
FWIW, my wife's Steyr S40 ejected brass towards at her face burning her also. We sent it in. When it got back it still ejected brass at her, however, it now did about 30 feet above her head and at least comes down cool. Amazingly, she still loves that pistol.
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I tried out a .40 M&P at a factory rep open house last year. It was consistently accurate - every round on paper and every spent casing right between my eyes, including the one that slid past the glasses and blistered my nose.
For all those who think this is normal and all semi-autos do it,
a) this is the only pistol I'd experienced this with repeatedly in 30+ years of shooting the type (Luger, Colt, Ruger, SIG, EAA and 1st and 3rd generation S&W)
b) you should really try shooting something that doesn't fight back - it might improve your accuracy
c) Sometimes this happens with any auto if you hold your head wrong, but you shouldn't have to hold your head wrong to dodge empties. They can be made to fling the brass somewhere else.
d) You never see this behavior in a revolver
Really liked the ergonomics and function of the M&P otherwise
For all those who think this is normal and all semi-autos do it,
a) this is the only pistol I'd experienced this with repeatedly in 30+ years of shooting the type (Luger, Colt, Ruger, SIG, EAA and 1st and 3rd generation S&W)
b) you should really try shooting something that doesn't fight back - it might improve your accuracy
c) Sometimes this happens with any auto if you hold your head wrong, but you shouldn't have to hold your head wrong to dodge empties. They can be made to fling the brass somewhere else.
d) You never see this behavior in a revolver
Really liked the ergonomics and function of the M&P otherwise
remat457
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Not common, but not entirely unheard of either.
Coincidentally, here is a thread currently on the first page of Glocktalk posted yesterday:
Brass hitting me in the forehead G19 - Glock Talk
Coincidentally, here is a thread currently on the first page of Glocktalk posted yesterday:
Brass hitting me in the forehead G19 - Glock Talk
jon_e_mac1
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I had the same issue with a Taurus PT809. Gun shot excellently, but consistently sent spent casings back at my face and head. My M&P 9mm, Taurus PT92, and Glock 19 don't have the issue. Taurus finally replaced it, and the second gun did the same thing, just not as badly (went from around 98% of the time to around 30% of the time). Tried multiple types of ammo and had almost 1000 rounds through it. After one landed in the space between my glasses and forehead (even with a cap on, so it came straight back), I got rid of it. See if someone else has an M&P 9mm like yours and try theirs. If the same thing happens with theirs, then it might be you. If it doesn't happen, then it's probably the gun.
g_conway
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I'm sure it wouldn't bother you at all if every case flew at your face. The fact that the shooter is female not in any way relavant to the issue at hand.
We can tell her to go get eye protection first if she ever needs to use that gun for personal defense.
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if u r right handed it shouldnt be a problem. the ejector might just be catching the same part of the casing when it throws it out of the gun. i wouldnt call it a problem, just a misfortune
Blackpaladin
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Local PD sent back (3) early model M&P9s for the brass ejecting straight up. In this case it was extractor replacement for all three.
Skeptic 9c
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I have had the brass shower problem with different guns, but always with 147 gr subsonic loads. I've never shot anything heavier than 124 in my 9c, and I've never had the problem.
Geoff
Who prefers 115 gr ball and HP.
Geoff
Who prefers 115 gr ball and HP.
modraker
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I know they're made for the full size M&P but I haven't found one for the compact yet.
Dikinalaska
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I have this same problem. But I only have 75 rounds through my gun. I read that I need to but 200-300 through it before it is a problem, and that after that I need to call S&W and figure it out. Cases going straight up and back down, or straight up and back into my field of vision. Doesn't make target acquisition very easy when dodging casings.
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