Model 64 Snub Questions

A couple examples......

model642targets.jpg
DSC03093.jpg
 
Let me muddy the waters just a little more.....The photos I posted of the two barrels came from GunBroker about a year ago. Both were being sold as Model 64 Barrels. After looking at my Post History here on the Forum, it seems I've obsessing over this issue for quite some time. I thought the issue was resolved when I found the GB Posts.......Now there's another possibility. It may be that I'm completely mad...I already worked through the optical illusion theory and found myself still convinced of the differences. Maybe I've talked myself completely out of my head, and now I'm doing it publicly.....
I'm also a long-standing Beretta 92 Fan. Beretta enthusiasts have one of these issues as well...It concerns the dustcover on the 92/96 Series of pistols. There is a Straight Dustcover, and a more recent Slanted Dustcover. There are still those who can't see the difference when staring right at them. I see the difference immediately (the straight DC is a true Beretta). I don't know where this will end up, but when I get my 2" HB 64 and 10's...Please, don't tell me if you think my barrels are tapered. I chose to believe they're not......:) Zebulon
 
Maybe if I just buy a few "regular" barreled 64/10's and close one eye, I'll be happy......Let's try it.
 
Based on the length of the threaded area and the design of the forcing cone, I think the top barrel in your pic is from a J-frame. I see no difference in the barrels of any of the 64 snubs depicted in this thread, but I'm still anxious to know the whole story . . .
 
Assuming that there is ONLY one 2" barrel for the 64, is it safe to say that there is ONLY one 2" Barrel for the Mod 10 as well? I really want an answer to this issue.......Am I the only one who sees a difference in these barrels? Maybe I AM nuts. I never have this problem with 2" 15's...:)
 
Last edited:
JFOHIO said:
I am considering a Model 64, 2" (pre MIM and IL), and have been researching the variations. After reading the M64 section in the Standard Catalog of S&W I have the following questions that hopefully some of you may be able to answer.

1. Is a 2" "standard" barrel, and a 2" tapered" barrel the same?
2. Was the 2" heavy barrel a standard production item or were they all special runs. If standard production, when were they introduced?
3. Was the .312 smooth combat trigger offered at the begining or were they phased in at a later date?

Thanks for the help.

JFOHIO
Click to expand...

JFOHIO....I'm curious...Why did you ask these questions in the first place? Where did you get the idea that there was a "standard" barrel and a "tapered" barrel? Please don't tell me it was one of my posts that caused the confusion! I really want the Sages of the Smith & Wesson Forum to work this one through. I watched "Inception" and "Shutter Island" back to back once, but I don't think it damaged me......:)
 
watchmanjimg said:
Based on the length of the threaded area and the design of the forcing cone, I think the top barrel in your pic is from a J-frame. I see no difference in the barrels of any of the 64 snubs depicted in this thread, but I'm still anxious to know the whole story . . .
Click to expand...

Do you own any Berettas? :)
 
Zebulon said:
Do you own any Berettas? :)
Click to expand...

Not currently, but I looked into the dust cover issue you mentioned earlier in the thread and agree that there's a noticeable difference between Model 92s with the early dust cover and the later slanted version. However, as mentioned previously I can't see any difference between any of the Model 64 barrels depicted in this thread.

I'm certainly not calling you or anyone else nuts, but I'd love to see more hard evidence to shore up the notion that there were different 2" barrels used in the Model 64.
 
watchmanjimg said:
Not currently, but I looked into the dust cover issue you mentioned earlier in the thread and agree that there's a noticeable difference between Model 92s with the early dust cover and the later slanted version. However, as mentioned previously I can't see any difference between any of the Model 64 barrels depicted in this thread.

I'm certainly not calling you or anyone else nuts, but I'd love to see more hard evidence to shore up the notion that there were different 2" barrels used in the Model 64.
Click to expand...

Have no fear my S&W Brother...."Nuts" is not an offense...just a qualifier. This is one of the more interesting topics I've seen on the Forum. I'd really like to get to the bottom of this. Actually, I have a Beautiful "tapered barrel" 64 Snubbie that is gaining in value as we speak. I hated the thing when I bought it for my Wife...if all barrels are the same, I'll post it in the Classifieds for $50 more than I was going to.....:) Zebulon
 
I have a 64-2 w/a 2" barrel. It kind of looks a bit tapered, but it's so short, it's hard to tell for sure. The previous pics posted here do look a bit different to me but what do I know?!

I had some custom work done on mine by a gunsmith in Glendale, Azrizona; chamfored charge holes, bobbed hammer, rounded/polished trigger (it was the narrow, groved trigger) and a DA action job. 4-5" DA groups @ 15 yards. (I think it would do better with a better shooter!)What a sweet piece it is!
 
Zebulon:
I would like to find a 64 with a 2" barrel that looks like yours shown over the targets (picture on the left). To my eye that barrel is certainly heavier and more straight sided than the one pictured on the right. To me it looks the same as the picture posted by Photoman44. I would also assume that the heavier barrel is thicker at the muzzel end than the one pictured on the right. Please confirm. I asked the question regarding 2" Standard" and 2" Tapered" because both are mentioned in the S. C. & S & W under the M64 write up, and I didn't know if there were in fact three stlye barrels or just two. They also mention 3" and 4" Heavy barrels, but not specifically 2". Another thought - If there are, in fact, no 2" Heavy barrels, then maybe the difference we see is "standard" vs "Tapered".
(are we having fun yet?)
JFOHIO
 
Perhaps they'd be so kind as to post a muzzle shot of their respective firearms. This would shed some light on things, wouldn't it?
 
hiram2005 said:
Maybe I'm nuts too, but I see a difference in Photomans and dbs barrels!
Click to expand...

Hiram....You are indeed nuts, and I mean that with deep respect. They're different to me...always have been, but then again, I don't claim to have the answers any longer....just the questions. Seems the Pros have a harder time with them (the questions) than the facts. Being profoundly Conservative in my politics, I have a difficult time with perspectives being reality. I respect and understand perspectives, but Smith & Wesson does determine reality. I'd just like to know what it is, and I'd be happy to silence myself and fade away.....HB Zebulon...:) I've been married for many years...I know what it's like to be dead wrong.........
 
JFOHIO said:
Zebulon:
I would like to find a 64 with a 2" barrel that looks like yours shown over the targets (picture on the left). To my eye that barrel is certainly heavier and more straight sided than the one pictured on the right. To me it looks the same as the picture posted by Photoman44. I would also assume that the heavier barrel is thicker at the muzzel end than the one pictured on the right. Please confirm. I asked the question regarding 2" Standard" and 2" Tapered" because both are mentioned in the S. C. & S & W under the M64 write up, and I didn't know if there were in fact three stlye barrels or just two. They also mention 3" and 4" Heavy barrels, but not specifically 2". Another thought - If there are, in fact, no 2" Heavy barrels, then maybe the difference we see is "standard" vs "Tapered".
(are we having fun yet?)
JFOHIO
Click to expand...

There should be a S&W Authority on the Forum to help us wade through this issue. Please Guys, I know there are some great S&W minds here...Help us out......Zeb
 
Zebulon said:
There should be a S&W Authority on the Forum to help us wade through this issue. Please Guys, I know there are some great S&W minds here...Help us out......Zeb
Click to expand...


There's a "nut" for sure, his name is Smithnut. Where he be? If he don't have it, it never was.
 
ENGINE18 said:
I have a 64-2 w/a 2" barrel. It kind of looks a bit tapered, but it's so short, it's hard to tell for sure. The previous pics posted here do look a bit different to me but what do I know?!

I had some custom work done on mine by a gunsmith in Glendale, Azrizona; chamfored charge holes, bobbed hammer, rounded/polished trigger (it was the narrow, groved trigger) and a DA action job. 4-5" DA groups @ 15 yards. (I think it would do better with a better shooter!)What a sweet piece it is!
Click to expand...


...and where are the pics?!?! ;)
 
OK... went and got mine out of the safe... Measuring with an outside micrometer at the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock position... It measures .808" at the base of the barrel and .638" at the muzzle. From the side it looks like a straight barrel, but from the bottom it's evident that there is a taper.
 
I can't take it any longer, I'm going to lose my eye sight squinting at those gunbroker ads to see it they are tapered barrels or the elusive heavy barrel. Here is a Mod 64 and a 64-6, both tapered.

[I
GUNS004-1.jpg
MG]http://
GUNS002.jpg
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

O2Guy
Magnum Cylinder In A Model 10 or 64?
Replies
6
Views
4K
viceunit
V
C
New to the Forum . . . with a Model 65-2!
Replies
11
Views
4K
Catfighter
C
N
K-Frame .357 Magnum
2 3
Replies
44
Views
35K
amplifryer
amplifryer
Allen-frame
Time for a model 65 project. 4in. to 3 and round butt. No LadySmith.
2
Replies
33
Views
14K
Ndbackroad
N
S
Let's see your K-frame snubbies
5 6 7
Replies
123
Views
45K
CH4
CH4

Latest posts

Back
Top