QuickStrips by Tuff products

Aloha,

I've been thinking of punching a small hole in the grip end and attaching a short piece of thin cord to help pulling out of the pocket.

Sort of a non point here in Hawaii as we do Not have CCW here, Yet. Wife and I keep hope....
 
I carry speed strips and consider them a great way to top off the guns when the shooting is over. IMO, the name "speed strip" is an oxmoron, but perhaps others are more dextrous than I am. I just pull another gun and keep shooting. I wouldn't overthink things. I carry every round the things will hold.

Just "pulling another gun" is called a "New York Reload" since this is the way NYC detectives handled the problem when they carried snubs. I have one snub in a regular owb at 4:00 and another in my left front pocket. Quickest reload ever! I agree that the strips are anything but QUICK!
 
Nothing against my friend Massad, but he didn't fish the thing from a pocket and then load. I'd have had a second gun going by the time he was gettting started loading.

That said, thanks for posting. I learned from that video.
 
Yes, that's true that he demonstrated with the strip already in his hand but, I wanted to point out how fast one could be with a strip and, mostly, to point out that the fastest part of the whole reload is the instant after the last round is chambered when the strip is thrown away.

If you ever have to use one of these, odds are about 50/50 that you're in a race for your life. Therefore...after that last round goes into the chamber, the cylinder gets closed and I'm ready to continue fire (if necessary.) I don't wanna be wasting time trying to stuff the strip back in my pocket because there's still a few rounds left in the strip.

Now, with all that said...when it's possible, I carry a BUG for my "N.Y. reload." But...there are a lot of times (most of the time) that it's not possible to carry two and that's why I own, and practice with, Speed Strips.
 
I carry all 8 loaded in the strip because more ammo makes me happy.

I may or may not have to ditch the extra ammo after I load my snub, and if I do I am not really worried about having live rounds on the ground.

The truth be told I may only get two in the gun before I have to ditch the strip and open fire, if I am being aggressed by the bad guy (think Newhall here).

As a fast as possible technique I rather like this guy's stuff;

SnubTraining.com

... and I find his idea of loading 2> loading 2> closing cylinder to get back into the fight more quickly to be solid. Getting that last round in takes quite a bit of time.


That said, if I can top off my snub and then pocket the extra rounds then I will.
 
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Is Massad left handed? If not, to execute his reload he had to transfer his pistol from his shooting hand to his non shooting hand. He must be left handed; otherwise this method is SLOW.

PS I watched the video again. Massad completes the reload and transfers the gun to his right hand and takes a shooting grip. Interesting. In total, his revolver made two complete transfers from right to left and then left to right.

Out
West
 
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Is Massad left handed? If not, to execute his reload he had to transfer his pistol from his shooting hand to his non shooting hand. He must be left handed; otherwise this method is SLOW.

PS I watched the video again. Massad completes the reload and transfers the gun to his right hand and takes a shooting grip. Interesting. In total, his revolver made two complete transfers from right to left and then left to right.

Out
West

Your Left hand has to go down there anyway to open the cylinder. As the cylinder swings out, the right hand is going for the strip. Then, you load the rounds in (you wouldn't wanna do this left handed, unless you're ambidextrous) and throw the strip to the ground so you can get the shooting hand back on the grip about the same time the cylinder is closing back up.
 
Is Massad left handed? If not, to execute his reload he had to transfer his pistol from his shooting hand to his non shooting hand. He must be left handed; otherwise this method is SLOW.

PS I watched the video again. Massad completes the reload and transfers the gun to his right hand and takes a shooting grip. Interesting. In total, his revolver made two complete transfers from right to left and then left to right.

The "book" answer to reloading a revolver has always been to hold the gun in the weak hand and use the strong hand (more dexterity) to load with, so his demo is totally normal.
 
The "book" answer to reloading a revolver has always been to hold the gun in the weak hand and use the strong hand (more dexterity) to load with, so his demo is totally normal.

Isn't that what I just said ? ~ :confused: . ;)
 
Is Massad left handed? If not, to execute his reload he had to transfer his pistol from his shooting hand to his non shooting hand. He must be left handed; otherwise this method is SLOW.

PS I watched the video again. Massad completes the reload and transfers the gun to his right hand and takes a shooting grip. Interesting. In total, his revolver made two complete transfers from right to left and then left to right.

Out
West

I know all these guys are experts, and I'm not, but, when someone is shooting at me, how many times do I have to change hands? Before I knew what the experts recommended, I pushed the cyclinder latch with my right thumb, pushed open the cylinder with my right 2nd and 3rd fingers while drawing the speedloader with my left, hit the ejector with my left palm and insterted the speedloader etc. and closed the cylinder with my left hand. I just can't see letting the weapon go from the shooting hand!

P.S. I should've added that I'm trying to become proficient in point shooting.....
 
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I pushed the cyclinder latch with my right thumb, pushed open the cylinder with my right 2nd and 3rd fingers while drawing the speedloader with my left, hit the ejector with my left palm and insterted the speedloader etc. and closed the cylinder with my left hand. I just can't see letting the weapon go from the shooting hand!

If you're firing one-handed, then your way would work better (assuming your speed strip is on your left-hand side.)
But with two-handed firing, my 2 middle fingers on my left hand (the correct fingers to be used to open the cylinder, btw) are closer to the cylinder than any fingers on my right hand; and thus, making it the smoother, quicker and better way.

You're not actually changing hands when it's executed properly. With a two-handed hold, the gun is already in the left hand, so all you're really doing is taking the right hand away from the grip to grab the strip. Going for the strip and loading the cartridges into the charge holes requires one of your hands to be off the weapon...it may as well be my right 'cause it can't do anything except sit there holding the grip. Where as, my way...while my right hand is going for the strip my left hand (thumb) is pushing the ejector rod.

I have a lot more confidence in my way, but each individual has to practice it the way he/she feels is best. ~ I just recommend that everyone try both ways before making any judgement.
 
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I'm teaching a woman revolvercraft right now. Being left handed, she handles the ammo better with her left hand and is more comfortable holding the gun's grip in her right hand. She's an anomaly in that she's left handed, but shoots right handed. Luckily she has no cross eye dominance issues. She uses the right trigger finger to hold the cylinder open while loading.

For right handed shooters, holding the gun with the left hand just feels right once the proper grip of the gun is mastered. This leaves the more dextrous right hand free to do the loading which requires more fine motor skills.
 
So, how do actually carry your speed-strips? If you are using a pouch, is it on your strong side? Or, do you just drop it in your strong side pocket?
 
No disrespect intended to Massad, or any of the other experienced shooters on this board - I am no expert on revolver reloads. To me it just seems odd to be switching the gun from hand to hand. Hard to believe that its faster. But Massad does seem very practiced and very smooth with the reload.

Out
West
 
You're not actually changing hands when it's executed properly. With a two-handed hold, the gun is already in the left hand, so all you're really doing is taking the right hand away from the grip to grab the strip. Going for the strip and loading the cartridges into the charge holes requires one of your hands to be off the weapon...it may as well be my right 'cause it can't do anything except sit there holding the grip. Where as, my way...while my right hand is going for the strip my left hand (thumb) is pushing the ejector rod.

Out West...I'll reiterate.

~ For my complete reply, go up 4 posts.
 
I'm teaching a woman revolvercraft right now. Being left handed, she handles the ammo better with her left hand and is more comfortable holding the gun's grip in her right hand. She's an anomaly in that she's left handed, but shoots right handed. Luckily she has no cross eye dominance issues. She uses the right trigger finger to hold the cylinder open while loading.

For right handed shooters, holding the gun with the left hand just feels right once the proper grip of the gun is mastered. This leaves the more dextrous right hand free to do the loading which requires more fine motor skills.

I'm in exactly the same position: the U.S. Army would not recognize left handed people (nor did the Good Sisters, but I resisted better), therefore we ALL were taught to shoot right handed. I still do, w/o left/right eye problems. I hold the gun in my right and go for the speedloader/strips with my left.
 
The "book" answer to reloading a revolver has always been to hold the gun in the weak hand and use the strong hand (more dexterity) to load with, so his demo is totally normal.
Thank you! I can't use the speed strip the way he does though. It is just too awkward for me. I do everything the same but come over the revolver with my strip pointing in the opposite direction as his. TC
 
Re: holding the revolver in the right hand when reloading (right hand dominant) or left hand.

Back when I was doing some local competitions run by the Sheriff's Department we all shot revolvers as semi-autos weren't approved for carry yet. Think mid-80s in a rural area fwiw.

Anyway, I was carrying and competing with a 4" 686 using HKS speedloaders. I had been taught to transition the gun into the left hand and reload using the right hand. I thought to myself that I didn't want to change hands so I practiced the following technique:

1. Push cylinder release with right hand thumb while pushing cylinder open with first and second fingers of the left hand.
2. Point muzzle almost straight up while maintaining firing grip with right hand. Keep gun at sternum level or just slightly higher. Angle muzzle slightly outward from body (12:00) and slightly to the left to help keep the cylinder crane fully open.
3. Slap straight down on the ejector rod with the meaty outside edge of the left hand. This evolved into sliding the outside edge of my left hand down the side of the revolver.
4. Empties are ejected.
5. Point muzzle straight down at ground while retrieving speedloader from the pouch carried at the 11:00 position.
6. While holding body of HKS speedloader cradled between base of left thumb and middle finger curled around it, giude bullets into cylinder holes. Ring and little fingers were wrapped around the cylinder, helping to align the speedloader with the cylinder. (We shot competition with full wadcutters, btw, so getting all six lined up and into the holes was of critical importance in shaving time.)
7. When rounds dropped into cylinder, twist release with index finger and thumb, maintaining pressure on the cylinder with the little and ring fingers so the cylinder didn't turn with the speedloader while turning the release.
8. Push cylinder closed with heel of left hand, letting the speedloader fall away to the ground.
9. Transition left hand onto the right while bringing the revolver back up into firing position.

It takes much longer to read this than it does to do it. FWIW, shooting a bone stock 4" 686 (except for changing the grips to Pachmyer Pros), I ended up in 3rd place behind two guys shooting dedicated 6" PPC guns. My average, IIRC, was a 497 - 36X.

I do NOT consider myself an accomplished professional gunslinger. At that time, I was a modestly talented amateur. But, I worked as a Reserve Deputy Sheriff, and had every intention of going home after my shifts were done. There was a dearth of training available, and considering my financial situation as the time, I could not have been able to afford traveling to training venues. I read everything I could get my hands on, reloaded .38 Spl. and .357 Magnums and shot two to three nights a week. I lived in the country and had the advantage of being able to shoot in my backyard.

I wasn't world-class, but I was good. 25 years later, I find I prefer to carry 1911s for social occasions. But, there are times that a 1911 is too much. So I just bought a Pro Series 442 and will be trying to relearn much of the revolver skills I have undoubtedly lost over the last two decades.

Long post, but hopefully it sparks some thoughts out there about how to reload a revolver. As always, what works for me may not work for you, so YMMV! :D
 
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