Carolyn McCarthy readying gun control bill-for tomorrow

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My prayers go out to the families of the fallen, and for those who were injured and recovering. I pray Mrs. Giffords makes a full recovery.

Yeah we all saw this coming.......my biggest fear is that "something will be done" to keep these people quiet and that they "throw them a bone" with some kind of magazine ban and some other kind of assinine ammo restrictions......

Let's hope the rest of the Congress and Representatives have more sense than to follow some knee jerk "ban" frenzy........we'll see just how much political muscle the NRA has in the coming months.....

Cue the panic reactions, we're gonna have people at Gander Mt. filling shopping carts with ammo again, and all the internet ammo sites are gonna have a big "sold out" next to all the 9mm, .380 and .45......One of the sites I use had 18 1,000 round cases of S&B 9mm "in stock" yesterday and as of 5 minutes ago it is now sold out........here comes "ammo shortage part II".......don't people get it, or are they just that dumb? If you run out and buy 10,000 rounds of ammo, clean the stores out, the ammo makers will crank out more and then charge 25% more for it, just like back in Nov. 2008.....I remember when .380 used to be "cheap"....good thing I still have enough .223 and 8mm Mauser to supply a battalion that I bought in the late 90's...OK, rant over.
 
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I may be wrong and have been before but........

Did we not get the Constitution read in the House last week and has there not been a provision added that any new bill must include the part of the Constitution that allows for the bill to be brought up?

So which part of the Constitution covers the bill this lady wants to introduce?
 
well I don't have time to discuss this at length but will get to it as soon as I can.

several things concern me besides the obvious hardware backlash.

1. I fear the emotional state factor of this. if they try to put some sort of doctor approved deal on gun ownership we have a real problem. since we all know mental illness is quite subjective. this is just what those in power need to enslave us even more.

2. secondly is the part about threats and gestures or the like that can be interpreted as threatening to govt officials. make that criminal. just an extreme form of political correctness. who determines all of this? again subjective bs that we cannot allow to be in the hands of corrupt politicians.

you may think I a prematurely sounding the alarm here but remember the primary goal of most of these politicians is total control. for the most part they do not represent us, we all know that. we need to keep a watchful eye on all of this.

in case anyone has concerns I will say this wackos solution to his problems is certainly uncalled for. what a tragedy.
 
Hillary was running her mouth that we have to stop "extremists" from having access to firearms. Not crazy people, but "extremists". I think ole ThunderThighs is a bit extreme herself, and her boss? Whoa!

Another newshead remarked that the shooter had over "90 different bullets in three clips" with him. He remarked that there was no need for anyone to have that many bullets. I think I have that many on top of my dresser.
 
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For the first time in history, our Republic witnessed the reading of the United States Constitution, albeit a sanitized version, on the floor of the House of Representatives. In a sad and tragic twist of fate, events the following day in Arizona called upon us to contemplate the corollary of both the First and Second amendments to that superlative document.

In the wake of tragedy, many may feel compelled to push for public policies that restrict certain rights affirmed by our Constitution. Some may argue that inflammatory rhetoric mustn’t be protected speech and therefore seek to have certain media censored from public discourse. Some may argue that inanimate objects are responsible for violence and therefore seek to restrict the very right that “shall not be infringed” even from lawful citizens on private property.

Existing laws limiting speech, press and access to arms must withstand strict scrutiny, and there are criminal and civil penalties for those who fall afoul of the law. I will welcome the day that extremist pull down their websites and fire-breathers put a sock in it. I wish anyone harboring thoughts of criminal intent would throw away any tool they would use in an unlawful manner. Yet we must not propose knee-jerk laws that unreasonably restrict free press, free speech, or the legitimate right to arms.

We as a nation hold dear certain fundamental rights and we must resist generating new and misguided laws that threaten our cherished liberties. However, those that preach hate or advocate the use of bullets over ballots deserve our unanimous condemnation. Our legitimate right to arms is for the defense of ourselves and our Republic, not for paltry, political “remedies.” Our right to speech and press is to enrich our public discourse, not to demonize and incite violence. We can change the channel. We can pressure advertisers. We can denounce thinly veiled calls to violence.

Massive social-science research shows the ineffectiveness of gun control laws in reducing crime and violence, yet uncompromising advocates simply ignore the results of criminological, historical and econometric studies by reputed scholars. Some may argue that we need a modern day “Sedition Act” to make it a crime to publish "false scandalous, and malicious writing" against the government or its officials as a response to contemporary blowhards on talk radio or cable news. Yet history teaches us that the original Sedition Act of 1798 was both blatantly unconstitutional and designed to stifle criticism.

The formation of public policy must be based on a pragmatic desire to reach achievable results. To improve our public discourse, diminish political vitriol toward our neighbors, and reduce violent crime, we must focus on the source of these phenomena. Implementing and expanding conflict resolution, character building, peace studies, community service, problem-solving, crime prevention, civic responsibility, firearm safety, and critical thinking in our educational system would be a good start.
 
You all are familiar with the term Reichstag Moment aren't you? I think one occurred Saturday.
 
IMO- Far too often gun rights advocates try to be pragmatic and rationalize the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms with studies and all sorts of statistical nonsense. There is no requirement to rationalize or be pragmatic about our rights. If crime was shown to go up with more gun ownership should we then give up our arms? Of course not. Does the 2nd say that our rights shall not be infringed unless Professor Kleck says so?

We have the right to keep and bear arms, PERIOD. It isn't dependent on how good or bad it might reflect on any societal measure. The importance of debunking gun grabber statistical claims is understood, but the more gun rights advocates drift away from the sole basis from which we have the right to keep and bear arms, "CUZ IT SAYS SO", the more convoluted and weak we make the foundation of our rights.
 
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IMO- Far too often gun rights advocates try to be pragmatic and rationalize the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms with studies and all sorts of statistical nonsense. There is no requirement to rationalize or be pragmatic about our rights. If crime was shown to go up with more gun ownership should we then give up our arms? Of course not. Does the 2nd say that our rights shall not be infringed unless Professor Kleck says so?

We have the right to keep and bear arms, PERIOD. It isn't dependent on how good or bad it might reflect on any societal measure. The importance of debunking gun grabber statistical claims is understood, but the more gun rights advocates drift away from the sole basis from which we have the right to keep and bear arms, "CUZ IT SAYS SO", the more convoluted and weak we make the foundation of our rights.

Not much of a rebuttal. Feet stomping tantrums are not taken seriously. What is taken seriously are the actual laws that come and go regulating guns. There is a huge difference between rights and what you are allowed.

Demands of rights via not-so veiled threats, ie: "water the tree of liberty, blah, blah, blah, helps whittle down what we are allowed. I like my rights and I hope what I am allowed is flush with them.
 
Political assassinations and attempted assassinations go back at least to Julius Caesar.

As deeply as I regret this whole tragedy, it could have been prevented if Rep. Giffords had merely held her event at the local courthouse -- and had participants pass through metal detectors.

Why should a political event have less standard security than the local airport?

As much as I hate to say it, she made some bad decisions -- just as JFK did.

Still, I'm praying -- fervently -- for her full and complete recovery.

Funny that McCarthy would seek to undermine the Constitution she swore to uphold and defend.

She's been sitting there -- waiting for this moment...
 
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The honorable Congresswoman McCarthy is also the one responsible for us having the National Instant Background Check. She has introduced several anti gun bills and co-sponsored many more.
 
Thanks for the link to the Speaker. I'd already sent an email to my Rep. Can't send any useful emails to my 2 Senators, they'll likely be co-sponsors on the new AWB.
 
McCarthy was just the first to dance in the blood, but there will be more. There will be attempts to limit our access to firearms, magazines, and ammunition. If they have their way, and if we are lucky, we will be like Barney Fife with one cartridge in our pocket.

What the people of California have to endure is nothing compared to what McCarthy and others want to do to us.
 
I have already emailed my senators and speaker boehner. God help us. The anti-gun vultures are circling. I can't believe how they have attacked glenn, rush, and sean. I listen to all of them and have NEVER heard any of them spout hate or violence.
 
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