The Onion Field and LAPD K-38s

Three excuses to post this LAPD photo... 1955 ... Mershon grips ... and clamshell holsters

I was excited in 1980 when I went into the Academy until the first day when they said we were going to wear two tone blue instead of Khaki. The other Recruit Classes and Instructors ribbed us about being Postal Inspectors!

Mike
 
I don't mean to jack this thread, but figured some LAPD guys (Mike) out there might know if the Ithaca "LAPD specials" had sling loops and slings ? I just bought one, it has the factory studs but no loops. Also, were they stamped with property markings ? Thank You
 
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Adam 12 was a great influence on my choice of a law enforcement career. I carried a 4 inch model 19-3 that my dad purchased new in 1967 (my dept did not issue weapons) 26 years ago at the academy and for some time afterward. I shot many a HBWC through it and never felt under gunned. It is in my safe right now, but there is no doubt it could still take care of business. I too am enjoying Adam 12 on dvd. Boy I miss the good ol days.
 
Adam 12 was a great influence on my choice of a law enforcement career. I carried a 4 inch model 19-3 that my dad purchased new in 1967 (my dept did not issue weapons) 26 years ago at the academy and for some time afterward. I shot many a HBWC through it and never felt under gunned. It is in my safe right now, but there is no doubt it could still take care of business. I too am enjoying Adam 12 on dvd. Boy I miss the good ol days.

My first year on the street we didn't have hand held radio's, went Code 6 and you were off the air in someones house, you cruised by locations to make sure coppers were ok, laid the mike out the window on traffic stops. Had Adam 12 cars for the first two years, coffee can lights facing forward and rear....

Mike


I don't mean to jack this thread, but figured some LAPD guys (Mike) out there might know if the Ithaca "LAPD specials" had sling loops and slings ? I just bought one, it has the factory studs but no loops. Also, were they stamped with property markings ? Thank You


Sling loop screwed into the barrel lug and it had a stud in the stock. No markings but there was a brass circle with numbers that was nailed to the pistol grip.

Mike

I've been looking for one also...




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I think your grips are Hurst. OIF2 where are you?

"Reed" and "Malloy" on Adam-12 had Farrant grips.


YES! John Hurst, Northeast Division, coming back fast!!! Fuzzy, Hogue, Hurst all were the Old Timers and made grips up at the Academy! Back when OIF2 and I were there...

Mike

Just finished refinishing these, dragged out my issue helmet!

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So there was no issue sling, Mike ? Also were the receivers unmarked, or did they have the typical Ithaca "game scene" rollmarked on the sides ?
 
Another show I liked was "Police Story". With 60 years of television cable should come out with a "Police Channel". Show the oldies like Dragnet, Adam 12, Police Story, Barney Miller (almost an NYPD Documentary) FBI etc


Great idea!
 
So there was no issue sling, Mike ? Also were the receivers unmarked, or did they have the typical Ithaca "game scene" rollmarked on the sides ?


No sling, you could buy your own and swivels but it was frowned upon because you were issued a different shotgun from the kitroom every night, you didn't have one assigned to you. (didn't prevent some of us from doing it anyhow)

Clean sides, some were marked from the factory LAPD, some weren't. Those shotguns are still around. They were never offered for public sales, even to us. So it's usually BS if someone says it's a LAPD shotgun. I know there were over runs but I don't think they had the LAPD in the receiver. I'll call the Armory and get the straight scoop and PM you or if Bob (OIF2) sees this he can chime in.

Mike
 
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hi guys , I believe Bob (OIF2) is still over seas , lets pray for his safe return , robbt
 
We didn't have hand held radios the first 7 years I was on the road. You knew the phone number to the places you normally checked out at and advised dispatch. When out on a call you took care of business or went back to the car to call for backup. Most of us actually didn't want walkies to start with, Sam Brown belt was already too heavy and crowded. Today the younger deputies wouldn't know what to do with out a hand held.


My first year on the street we didn't have hand held radio's, went Code 6 and you were off the air in someones house, you cruised by locations to make sure coppers were ok, laid the mike out the window on traffic stops. Had Adam 12 cars for the first two years, coffee can lights facing forward and rear....

Mike



Sling loop screwed into the barrel lug and it had a stud in the stock. No markings but there was a brass circle with numbers that was nailed to the pistol grip.

Mike

I've been looking for one also...




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Many eons ago when I started LE the FBI and LAPD were the top of the heap.
IIRC the issue sidearms for FBI were 4" Colt Official Police and S&W Model M&P.
LAPD were Colt Officer Model Match 6" and S&W Masterpiece 6" (Model 14).
 
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We didn't have hand held radios the first 7 years I was on the road. You knew the phone number to the places you normally checked out at and advised dispatch. When out on a call you took care of business or went back to the car to call for backup. Most of us actually didn't want walkies to start with, Sam Brown belt was already too heavy and crowded. Today the younger deputies wouldn't know what to do with out a hand held.

Hey I resemble that last part! Actually my father was a cop from 1970 - 1994. For at least his first ten years that was how he conducted business. Times change.
 
Ref. handheld radios - I started in 1980 and a FEW were available to check out for the shift, but they were basically worn out, big, heavy and unreliable. You had to get to work about an hour early if you wanted one.

It was common prctice on a traffic stop to turn on the PA, loud, with routine radio traffic blaring as that was considered a psychological indicator to any suspects that other officers were close at hand.
Seems funny now - I recall difficulty conversing with drivers and occupants due to that darn PA being on.
 
I retired from Kern County SO, working there from 1971 to when I retired in 1995. The Onion Field was in our Lamont Substation area, which I was in charge of for a time in the 1980's.

Karl Hettinger worked for a large commercial nursery near the intersection of Rosedale Highway and Allen Road, on the west side of Bakersfield. He ran for County Supervisor and was elected. If I remember correctly, he served one term and was "on our side". He ended up with a serious drinking problem and I believe that was what finally did him in. It was a shame, since he was a good guy.

I shot alongside John Hurst in PPC matches in the 70's, along with John Pride and bunch of other great shooters and cops. I was never in his class, but right under them. There was great competition between the LAPD, LASD and CHP Blue teams for the Governor's Twenty every year.

Those were some great times, and great people.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 

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