The most hard kicking revolver?

[frankverrees]

Hello,

who knows what is the most hard kicking revolver?
Is there a lot of difference in the .460 and .500 and .454?

Let me know please.
Greetz
Frank from Belgium

 

[Firehouse]

Never shot anything larger than a .454 but it was a Ruger Super Redhawk. It had some little dinky rubber grips on it with the wooden inserts, at the time the same ones that came on the Ruger GP100 in .357. I shot it a few times with full house loads and no gloves, just barehanded. It would rattle your teeth with those grips on it. I tried to trade it to a buddy of mine who is about 6'2" and 265 pounds for a 629 Classic he had with an 8 3/8" barrel. He wanted to shoot mine first. He shot it a couple of times and handed it back to me and exclaimed "You just need to sell this." It was funny at the time.

Edited to add, I did change the grips out to some over sized rubber Hogues. It was what was on it when my friend shot it.

 

[Grinder]

I bet a 329 with full power hunting loads comes close

 

[Firehouse]

I will say this, nothing beats a cylinder full of full house .357 loads in a M&P340. Wow.

 

[Steve_NEPhila]

The answer to your questions is easily obtained from physics. The greatest amount of recoil will be experienced from a cartridge that makes the greatest amount of energy (i.e. foot pounds, newtons or kilogram meters). The small and less important variable will be the mass of the firearms used for the cartridge. However, all actions have an equal and opposite reaction. The more energy the cartridge delivers, the greater the recoil will be.

If all things were equal, grip material, mass of firearm, design of muzzle break etc... the cartridge with the greatest energy would have the most recoil. In this case, out of the short list you mentioned the 500 S&W magnum would be the king for recoil.

 

[LouisianaJoe]

I friend of mine likes to load max loads in everything. I bought a .454 Casul super redhawk and some of his reloads from him and the .454 300gr at 1650 fps are kind of brutal. Shooting them in my .460 S&W Mag is a bit more pleasant.

 

[Lefkiguy]

For me, the 500 S&W had the biggest kick. It was the longer 8"+ barreled model. I can't imagine what it would be like with a 4" barrel. No one in my family that shot it managed to hit themselves in the head or double pulled the trigger. I haven't fired a 44 mag in the scandium framed models, I'm sure almost as severe.

 

[dark star]

I will say this, nothing beats a cylinder full of full house .357 loads in a M&P340. Wow.

+1 to the 340 with 357

 

[samandglove1]

I will say this, nothing beats a cylinder full of full house .357 loads in a M&P340. Wow.

+100

Maybe its me, but I had no fun shooting that thing. Too light for that much power.

 

[frankverrees]

Never shot anything larger than a .454 but it was a Ruger Super Redhawk. It had some little dinky rubber grips on it with the wooden inserts, at the time the same ones that came on the Ruger GP100 in .357. I shot it a few times with full house loads and no gloves, just barehanded. It would rattle your teeth with those grips on it. I tried to trade it to a buddy of mine who is about 6'2" and 265 pounds for a 629 Classic he had with an 8 3/8" barrel. He wanted to shoot mine first. He shot it a couple of times and handed it back to me and exclaimed "You just need to sell this." It was funny at the time.

I've heard that the ruger alaskan .454(2") is very brutal also.
More than the .500 mag!

 

[jack the toad]

Dunno about which recoils the most but IMO, the Sc/Ti .357's and .44's (with their factory grips) are less pleasant than my 4" 500.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

The answer to your questions is easily obtained from physics. The greatest amount of recoil will be experienced from a cartridge that makes the greatest amount of energy (i.e. foot pounds, newtons or kilogram meters). The small and less important variable will be the mass of the firearms used for the cartridge. However, all actions have an equal and opposite reaction. The more energy the cartridge delivers, the greater the recoil will be.

If all things were equal, grip material, mass of firearm, design of muzzle break etc... the cartridge with the greatest power would have the most recoil. In this case, out of the short list you mentioned the 500 S&W magnum would be the king for recoil.

You might want to check that out with someone who actually knows some high-school physics. You are using power and energy interchangeably, when neither is the relevant factor. The property you are looking for is momentum (mass times velocity). Further, the mass of the weapon is NOT a minor factor, as many, many people on this board know from experience. Some of them even know where to put it in a formula for recoil, but I don't. You can probably also find recoil-calculating programs on the net.

 

[Shuz]

I bet a 329 with full power hunting loads comes close

I agree wholeheartedly!

 

[Bullseye Smith]

I'm "HAPPY" - very happy that someone said that a ruger hurts more than a S&W when you shoot it. I guess when you are #2 (RUGER) that you try harder, but just can't make it.

 

[doc540]

I will say this, nothing beats a cylinder full of full house .357 loads in a M&P340. Wow.

King Sting!

 

[427mach1]

There are several recoil calculators online. They solve a momentum balance equation for the recoil velocity (of the gun), then calculate the recoil energy. Bullet mass and velocity, powder mass and velocity, and gun mass and velocity all come into play. However, you could fire the same ammunition through two guns of the same mass and have a totally different perceived recoil due to grip shape, height of the barrel centerline above shooter's wrist, etc.

 

[frankverrees]

I've heard about a linebough?!
We in Belgium don't know that brand?
Is this a special weapon??

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

There are several recoil calculators online. They solve a momentum balance equation for the recoil velocity (of the gun), then calculate the recoil energy. Bullet mass and velocity, powder mass and velocity, and gun mass and velocity all come into play. However, you could fire the same ammunition through two guns of the same mass and have a totally different perceived recoil due to grip shape, height of the barrel centerline above shooter's wrist, etc.

Ain't that the truth! And throw in the position of the middle knuckle of my middle finger relative to the rear of the trigger guard, and I might get to perceive most of the recoil on one uncushioned knuckle. Ouch!

 

[DonD]

I've heard about a linebough?!
We in Belgium don't know that brand?
Is this a special weapon??

John Linebaugh might be called the father of really powerful single action style revolvers. He developed the .475 and .500 Linebaughs as well as the .500 Max, a round close to the power of the .500 S&W. He and his son make very high quality custom revolvers.

Because they are much lighter than a typical barrel length .500 Mag, I would suspect that the .500 Linebaughs kick harder than the S&Ws.

All I know for sure is that I really like my two Model 500s and with heavy loads, they're enough. Don

 

[off road]

The .454, .480, .460, and .500 are all chambered for big very heavy guns, that all now come from the factory with the very excellent Hogue 'Tamer' grips. All that weight and the excellent grips, really tames the recoil. None of these have unmanageable recoil! The average shooter can work up to these, and will eventually enjoy shooting them. (To the guy who has the old style grips on his Ruger, change them out....and you will change your mind.)

The .44 Ruger SRH and Alaskans are absolute pussycats, but S&W makes some lightweight .44's that have bare metal backstraps, that push the manageable recoil envelope. I have a 329NG, and while it is very lightweight, at least it has the very good Pachmayr grips that help with recoil.

If I had to vote for the greatest precieved recoil award, 1st place has to go to the 25 oz .44 mag 329PD with that idiotic bare metal backstrap and stock wooden grips! 2nd place goes to any of the ultralight .357 J-frames.