Is the M&P pistol fully cocked when a round is chambered?

[SMMAssociates]

Chuck:

I'm not sure I'd call the M&P trigger "2 stage", but the long and relatively light initial pull might qualify....

However, the point about "Double Action" is well taken, correct, and hilarious.... Exactly where Para is coming from with their LDA guns....

(Not to mention the lack of an exposed hammer when in Condition One. Yeah - there's a hammer there, but you practically have to own one to be able to tell when it's cocked.)

Regards,

 

[agksimon]

I've done a lot of trigger work on M&P's, including my own. If you look at the sear, they have a sweeping configuration that causes the striker to move slightly backward, to finish the cocking, when you pull the trigger. If you do a Burwell trigger job, they remove some of this backward sweep, which reduces the trigger pull from 6.5 to around 4lbs.
If you completly remove this backward sweep, it will become a true single action and an even lower trigger pull.

 

[AJG]

If you completly remove this backward sweep, it will become a true single action and an even lower trigger pull.

I would assume in doing this you also lose a bit of power from the striker because the spring does not have quite as much compression as when you move the striker back, however slightly. Has this ever been an issue for you, or is the amount the striker moves with the factory configuration so slight that it doesn't make perceptible difference?

 

[agksimon]

I would assume in doing this you also lose a bit of power from the striker because the spring does not have quite as much compression as when you move the striker back, however slightly. Has this ever been an issue for you, or is the amount the striker moves with the factory configuration so slight that it doesn't make perceptible difference?

The amount removed is probably about 1/32 of an inch. It's never made a difference in striker power.

 

[Dpris]

S&W says the M&P is not fully cocked, there's rearward movement of the striker before let-off, and they consider the pistol a double-action because of that.
Denis

 

[agksimon]

S&W says the M&P is not fully cocked, there's rearward movement of the striker before let-off, and they consider the pistol a double-action because of that.
Denis

Isn't that basically what I said in my first posting above?

 

[Dpris]

I was giving you Smith & Wesson's official view of the gun & question.
Denis