NEW GUN LAW FOR BORDER STATES

"Reasonable regulation" as has been noted every single time through history finally winds up with subjects having no access to arms period.

What is "reasonable," and who defines it? An anti-gunner will say no firearms is a reasonable amount. If we budge one inch, they will take them from us- completely down to the last one.

That's why the people that shoot EBR's need help from the muzzleloading, rimfire, shotgunners, hunters, antique firearm collectors and pistol shooters. There is no part of firearm ownership that is isolated or insulated from the reach of the nefarious, underhanded and dastardly people that wrongly believe that prohibition is the answer. These same people do and will play the different factions of gun owners against each other whenever possible.

Take a look at the films from Australia and England- unbelievably to me, there are actually people out there that are happy that those firearms are cut up and citizens now have extremely limited access to firearms.

It starts with EBR's- no matter what kind- especially .22's cause they are cheap. Then the .50BMG rifles because no one needs one of those. Then, since your shotgun is larger than 16 gauge- it's an assault weapon. Handguns are dangerous because a criminal might steal it and it holds more than five rounds. Oh, while we're at it, ammunition is dangerous because children might eat it or a terrorist might get one round- so we have to get rid of that too. Now, the remaining hunting guns are too dangerous because criminals are stealing Winchester 94's and collectibles to do their dirty work, so now those have to go. Now, we are gun free and now we have to work on other countries that have gun ownership because that's where our problems are coming from. :rolleyes:

Does the above sound familiar??? :mad:

United we stand, divided we fall.


Actually it started a long time before there was such a thing as an EBR. It started with the National Firearms Act of 1934. The general consensus at the time by gun owners, politicians and the NRA was to throw the owners of such weaponry to the dogs. From the standpoint of the anti-gunner this law had it all. It didn't flat out ban anything but it did put a prohibitory tax on it. In those days $200 was like $3,300 today. This law had taxation and it also required registration of the weapons subject to it. Registration from the cradle to the grave and registration to whoever inherited it. NFA 1934 also set a precedent for taxation and registration of firearms accessories due to the fact that Silencers AKA suppressors came under the provisions of this tax/gun registration law. And it is a law not a regulation. In the future I do not find it far fetched at all to think that other gun accessories and firearms could be added to the restrictions of this this law that has stood for 77 years. Congress could add .50 cal rifles and pistol grip shotguns just as they did with the Striker and Street Sweeper.They could also add magazines, scopes, holsters or anything else they want.

A very, very bad law has been allowed to stand for all of these years and a bad legal precedent has been set.

But for most people including most gun owners that is OK as long as their handgun, rifle, shotgun, scope, sling, hunting vest, (heck there isn't anything safe) isn't subject to tax and registration.
 
Andy Griffith and NKJ nut, very nicely stated. We cannot give an inch. In fact we must demand more freedom.
EBR = Evil Black Rifle
 
As has been stated this new regulation does absolutely nothing to address crime, the criminals do not bother going through the legal process to obtain said firearms. Now to the point of "trying to identify straw purchasers" LOL, BATFE's recent actions have placed themselves into the category of illegal straw purchaser. We as gun owners and law abiding citizens cannot give one inch, because it will be reasonable gun control today, something else next week and then the next until we are just like GB and Germany and Australia, need I go further. It is empirical fact that when the pubic is disarmed violent and gun related crime skyrockets because the criminals know that they an easy victim that have no means to protect themselves.

Add to that all one needs to do is read history from 1934. Need I say more.
 
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Maybe this is blasphemy, but I don't see the big deal. If you are buying more than 1 AR15 per week, what the heck are you doing with it anyway? I could see if this was for more than one a year, but 2 in 5 days? Sounds very reasonable to me.

That's the problem with gun control. The antis and the government spin it to make it sound "reasonable" so that anyone opposed to it can be branded as some sort of recalcitrant.

We have a long history of "reasonable" gun control measures up here. And the antis have done a very good job with media manipulation in terms of painting those opposed with the "radical", "irresponsible and "anti-social" brushes.
 
During "Fast & Furious", the ATF was notified by gun dealers of suspected straw purchases and yet the ATF simply told the dealers to let the sale proceed - even against the objections of the FFL dealer. Reporting purchases to the ATF did not stop the trafficking of guns. In fact, the dealers would not have made the sale had the ATF not instructed them to do so. Reporting to the ATF fostered illegal straw purchases and increased illegal arms trafficking.

While it is true that some arms have been smuggled to Mexico from the US (many with support from the ATF), the numbers are not near as great as the 75% - 95% of all crime guns in Mexico as frequently claimed. The DTO cartels which prefer military-grade weaponry with select-fire and full-auto capability are not acquiring those guns from US sporting goods stores. Those are obtained by the DTO's from the international black market. The cartels also have RPGs, grenades, land mines, and machine-guns. Those are not sold to the public at sporting goods stores.

The definition of those firearms to be reported cover far more than just civilian look-alikes of Evil Black Rifles. A huge number of firearms will be reported and the ATF will be buried in paperwork for every pair of matching hunting rifles sold.

The Justice Dept and the ATF do not have the authority to circumvent the legislative process to implement new laws, regulations and requirements.
 
While it is true that some arms have been smuggled to Mexico from the US (many with support from the ATF), the numbers are not near as great as the 75% - 95% of all crime guns in Mexico as frequently claimed. The DTO cartels which prefer military-grade weaponry with select-fire and full-auto capability are not acquiring those guns from US sporting goods stores. Those are obtained by the DTO's from the international black market. The cartels also have RPGs, grenades, land mines, and machine-guns. Those are not sold to the public at sporting goods stores.
This is so true. I would be willing to bet that Venezuala or the Chinese government (and others) are selling shipping containers of full auto AK's and whatever else they want to the cartels. Just another export item for them and the cartels have the cash. An American EBR is no better to them than an old Ruger 10/22.

I think my next gun is going to be an EBR just to PO the anti-gun bunch.;)
 

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