The Homeless

[Kanewpadle]

I have dealt with homeless people and been in some of their flop houses.

It has been my experience that most of them choose to be homeless and don't need any help.

Some of them enjoy the lifestyle believe it or not. And some enjoy commiting crimes and hiding out wherever they're hiding at the time.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

No, I mean the guys that will stay at E1 for the max time. Then they go ahead and take the promotion each time it was required. I met many E5's the were happy with there little check and a bunk. And I don't mean so much to belittle that as just use it as an example that some people just don't have deep aspirations of greatness. At all.

And clearly she is not to whom I am referring. I am curious though, what rate locks down and she has a masters but isn't applying for a LDO, CWO, or the Seaman to Admiral Program??? Seems like with a masters someone would want to scoop her up.

Seaman to admiral Program went away a few decades ago. Have to be at least E-6 for LDO, E-7 for Warrant. Navy has around sixty different ratings, and each one has different advancement potential. It is sometimes possible to switch from the worst to one of the needy ones, but not often easy.

 

[Out West]

I see a lot of private charities doing good work on behalf of the homeless. Sometimes I've volunteered or supported them financially. I'm skeptical when the government, at any level, takes up the cause. Lots of money gets thrown at the problem with little visible result.

Maybe it takes the care, compasion and zeal of the private citizen to really make a difference.

Out
West

 

[DeathGrip]

I try and help homeless supermodels with a place to stay whenever possible.

I just hang out at the magazine section and wish I knew one.

 

[ThirtyAcres]

I see a lot of private charities doing good work on behalf of the homeless..................

Out
West

Ditto. You have to respect the soup kitchens, some churches, the rescue missions, and the Salvation Army.

They feed and house the homeless when no one else will..................no questions asked.

 

[DeathGrip]

Ditto. You have to respect the soup kitchens, some churches, the rescue missions, and the Salvation Army.

They feed and house the homeless when no one else will..................no questions asked.

And that my friends is the way it should work.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

I would like to learn more about homeless vets. I left Active Duty-Army- in 1971, came home, went into the Reserves, started college the next year. About 1975 I started to hear all these stories about the "Crazed Vietnam veteran", PTSD, etc., then it came out that so many were phonies, had at best served in the rear with the gear-or hadn't served in Vietnam all-were drunks and drug users, had "bad paper" discharges, found out getting them upgraded to Honorable status was not a simple administrative matter, etc..

 

[Texas Star]

I would like to learn more about homeless vets. I left Active Duty-Army- in 1971, came home, went into the Reserves, started college the next year. About 1975 I started to hear all these stories about the "Crazed Vietnam veteran", PTSD, etc., then it came out that so many were phonies, had at best served in the rear with the gear-or hadn't served in Vietnam all-were drunks and drug users, had "bad paper" discharges, found out getting them upgraded to Honorable status was not a simple administrative matter, etc..

I think it says a lot about the media that they have given most vets a bad name by portraying these guys as the norm among those who've served. That was especially true of Vietnam vets. I suppose that those of their (media) liberal elitist mentality have been steeped in the myth that the heroes were the draft dodgers. That includes many left-leaning professors.

 

[blujax01]

I've often wondered why some churches will go to great lengths to gather money to send to some far off 3rd world village instead of keeping it local.
I've often wondered if the number of churches is about equal to the number of homeless.
I've often wondered what would happen if each church took in a homeless person (or family) and let them live in said church in exchange for keeping it clean, policing the grounds, etc.
I often wonder a lot of stuff ...

 

[Maximumbob54]

Seaman to admiral Program went away a few decades ago. Have to be at least E-6 for LDO, E-7 for Warrant. Navy has around sixty different ratings, and each one has different advancement potential. It is sometimes possible to switch from the worst to one of the needy ones, but not often easy.

Not quite...

Seaman to Admiral-21 Program - Home Page

Alive and breathing and making mustangs a reality still to this day...

 

[Texas Star]

I've often wondered why some churches will go to great lengths to gather money to send to some far off 3rd world village instead of keeping it local.
I've often wondered if the number of churches is about equal to the number of homeless.
I've often wondered what would happen if each church took in a homeless person (or family) and let them live in said church in exchange for keeping it clean, policing the grounds, etc.
I often wonder a lot of stuff ...

It has been my experience that many churches are more interested in their social activities than in helping the homeless and others in need.

That said, some Baptist men have gone to Haiti and the like. But charity should begin at home, God loves all; they don't have to be far away and exotic to visit to merit getting aid. I am, of course, speaking of the deserving.

The man I mentioned who has had trouble finding a job asked at my church for help. He was just given the names of some social agencies, none of which had anything to offer beyond what he already knew about, and some of these programs didn't even apply to him. It would have been far more useful if some of the rich doctors there occasionally donated time for charity cases or told people in need how to get free or cheap medical care. Real, hard info is difficult for many in need to come by. And food donations would no doubt be useful.

The man with whom I discussed his needs said that one of the worst factors in his seeking help at church was the attitude of the young lady in charge of assistance. She seemed to be afraid of soiling her social image by really doing anything useful and was afraid of knowing anyone who'd need her services.

On the other hand, he rejected my offer to get him a haircut and shave so that he'd look like someone she might want to help! I simply can't get it through his head that he needs every advantage he can get, and dressing or grooming in a way that repels most people can't possibly help him. Some homeless are just too stubborn for their own good.

 

[Maximumbob54]

It has been my experience that many churches are more interested in their social activities than in helping the homeless and others in need.

That said, some Baptist men have gone to Haiti and the like. But charity should begin at home, God loves all; they don't have to be far away and exotic to visit to merit getting aid. I am, of course, speaking of the deserving.

The man I mentioned who has had trouble finding a job asked at my church for help. He was just given the names of some social agencies, none of which had anything to offer beyond what he already knew about, and some of these programs didn't even apply to him. It would have been far more useful if some of the rich doctors there occasionally donated time for charity cases or told people in need how to get free or cheap medical care. Real, hard info is difficult for many in need to come by. And food donations would no doubt be useful.

The man with whom I discussed his needs said that one of the worst factors in his seeking help at church was the attitude of the young lady in charge of assistance. She seemed to be afraid of soiling her social image by really doing anything useful and was afraid of knowing anyone who'd need her services.

On the other hand, he rejected my offer to get him a haircut and shave so that he'd look like someone she might want to help! I simply can't get it through his head that he needs every advantage he can get, and dressing or grooming in a way that repels most people can't possibly help him. Some homeless are just too stubborn for their own good.

Which is what keeps most of us at the level we are at for as long as we want to be.

 

[John Ross]

A study I read somewhere said the most frequent length of time for someone to be homeless is ONE DAY. The next most frequent is two days. For most, homelessness is a temporary condition.

What most here are talking about is the 15% or so of the homeless population that is chronically homeless. Many of these people have serious mental problems and cannot function at even the most basic levels of employment. They also consume a disproportionate amount of our Emergency Room resources because they injure themselves regularly, don't seek treatment in a timely manner, contract pneumonia much more frequently than the rest of the population, etc.

As to what to do about the filthy, crazy guy on the corner screaming obscenities at those passing by, I haven't the slightest idea.

 

[NMPinNYC]

Australian actress Lara Cox portraying a homeless woman

Her teeth are in too good a shape to be a meth head or to be opening beers with them... Homelessness is a tough issue - root causes, prevention, treatment, reintegration are all difficult.

 

[ladder13]

... Homelessness is a tough issue - root causes, prevention, treatment, reintegration are all difficult.

Right, and blanket statements don't cut it..

 

[Texas Star]

Her teeth are in too good a shape to be a meth head or to be opening beers with them... Homelessness is a tough issue - root causes, prevention, treatment, reintegration are all difficult.

Yeah, I noticed that. I guess they didn't want to stain her teeth for that short film when it might interfere with her regular career.

But you gotta admit: Aussie dentists seem to be pretty capable, if her teeth look like that. Actually, Lara looks good all over under that makeup. Did you notice her sensitive face, though, and those haunting, beautiful eyes?
I've had kind of a crush on her ever since she played Finn on the 3rd Season of, The Lost World. And I gave a couple of friends DVD's of, The Marine 2 so they could see her act.

She seems a really nice person who once took a whole year off from her career to nurse a friend who was in a truly bad car wreck. I read an article about that, and the poor guy has a bunch of titanium plates in his face. I suspect that her care made a lot of the difference in his ability to recover and resume his acting career.

Offhand, I can't think of any American actresses whom I respect as much as I do Lara Cox. Most seem really vain and shallow. I truly believe that she made this video with the best of intentions, although she may not fully grasp the root causes of chronic homelessness. I do think she feels real pity for those in need. She probably isn't making such "message" films just for the publicity, as so many other actresses might. But I guess they'd be doing AIDS awareness movies, anyway: more popular a cause in Los Angeles...

 

[ladder13]

There but for the grace of God go I....

EXACTLY ...............

 

[The Big D]

It was circa 1976 when the Supreme Court ruled that folks who were incapable of helping themselves or unwilling to do so but were not a danger to themselves or others could not be placed in mental institutions.

Thus the streets where I worked were literally flooded with "homeless" people.

I submit that the vast majority of the homeless are mentally impaired. Not trying to be funny but if you were mentally capable would you choose to be homeless in Buffalo or Miami?

There is currently one homeless female in my community who is simply a victim waiting for a perp. She is mentally challenged but is supported by family. Various efforts have been made to assist her; she refuses...her family enables.

Be safe.

 

[Maximumbob54]

It was circa 1976 when the Supreme Court ruled that folks who were incapable of helping themselves or unwilling to do so but were not a danger to themselves or others could not be placed in mental institutions.

Thus the streets where I worked were literally flooded with "homeless" people.

I submit that the vast majority of the homeless are mentally impaired. Not trying to be funny but if you were mentally capable would you choose to be homeless in Buffalo or Miami?

There is currently one homeless female in my community who is simply a victim waiting for a perp. She is mentally challenged but is supported by family. Various efforts have been made to assist her; she refuses...her family enables.

Be safe.

That is in fact why we have such a homeless population here in the South and in Florida in general. It's decent weather darn near year round. In South Florida it's even better. So many of them come down here since there is minimal risk of injury from exposure. I do think to some extent the amount of assistance provided by the state is something of a crutch to those that will use it in a way that makes the state an "enabler"... I wouldn't want to lose the assistance for those that would actually use it to get back on their feet again, but there's the razor's edge... Who gets to be in charge of reading someone's mind to see if they are in line for help or in line for their free hand out??? Is there a dirtbag detector yet???

 

[11B Lifer]

Problem caused by US

Back in the 60's we closed down institutions that cared for these people. I believe it was Life or Look magazines that ran articles depicting the horrible conditions. So we put them on the street and came up with "outreach" programs. Smooooth move.
For those who can work-they get hired-come up hot on a drug test-are fired-use drugs-get hired-come up hot-go to California-get into politics (just kidding).