A question for Californians

[PainterlyShotgroup]

Okay, so because of my chosen profession, there stands a good chance I'll end up in California at some point. I know the gun laws are nuts there especially when it comes to black guns. Granted the 15-22 is not considered an assault rifle in California. My question is about owning a rifle (15-22 or a california legal AR) in cities like San Francisco or L.A.. Is it legal to own one in those cities?

 

[john traveler]

A 15-22 is legal to import into California.

A California legal AR-15 type rifle is also legally importable from out of state. All other categories of "assault weapons" unless previously registered in California are not legal to import and can not be registered.

 

[PainterlyShotgroup]

A 15-22 is legal to import into California.

A California legal AR-15 type rifle is also legally importable from out of state. All other categories of "assault weapons" unless previously registered in California are not legal to import and can not be registered.

Right. What about San Francisco specifically? I know the city is extremely anti gun, but I know the city's attempts at an all out gun ban have been defeated. It's just that all the info I am finding only concerns CCW handguns. I can't seem to find any info on possessing a rifle within city limits.

 

[r.d.mcdaniel]

Ca. gun laws

As much as the city of San Francisco would like to change it, State laws apply. There are no gun laws specific to San Francisco.

 

[GLL]

Load up your truck with N-frame revolvers as well ! (perfectly legal for you to register here once you arrive)
I can give you a suggested list !

They are as good as gold coins !

Jerry

 

[Mickey3Gun]

REMEMBER, here in the PRK, your evil if you have more than 10 rounds in the magazine. So start looking for mag blocks, etc. But I here if you break down the magazine into it's component parts, well then it's can be construed as a repair kit. Also go over to the calguns forum, you'll find lots of good info there as well.

PS: I know a good FFL in SoCal if you need one.

 

[DrD562]

Yes it is legal to own one in those cities. But there is one strict restriction they have in LA (I don't know about SF) that you cannot buy ammo online if you live within the actual city limits. But your 15-22 is good, the only thing you have to worry about is your magazine capacity. If you have 10rd mags, you're fine. If they're 25rd mags, you MUST disassemble them before your you enter the state (unless you are LEO) otherwise it's a felony. Oh, and you CANNOT reassemble them while it the state of CA.

 

[PainterlyShotgroup]

Yes it is legal to own one in those cities. But there is one strict restriction they have in LA (I don't know about SF) that you cannot buy ammo online if you live within the actual city limits. But your 15-22 is good, the only thing you have to worry about is your magazine capacity. If you have 10rd mags, you're fine. If they're 25rd mags, you MUST disassemble them before your you enter the state (unless you are LEO) otherwise it's a felony. Oh, and you CANNOT reassemble them while it the state of CA.

How about bringing ammo in when you move? And do the guns have to come with me in my initial move or can I import them at a later date?

All my stuff is NY AWB compliant, so no mags over 10rnds, on my AR it has a fixed Bushmaster AWB carbine style stock w/ rifle length buffer tube, pinned and welded YHM comp. No bayonet lug and I have a Raddlock bullet button on order.

I realize I may have to contact the CA DOJ but I thought I'd ask fellow forum members first. Thank you for all your responses and help with this.

 

[Aceman58]

Yes, California has tough laws, but there are ways that are legal to get around them. You can have an AR15 5.56 or .223, you just have to have a bullet button. Now for magazines, they have to be limited to only 10rounds (can't get away from that). The only item on an AR that needs lic. with a 10 day wait is the lower reciever, that's it. The rest of the rifle upper receiver, stock, barrel can be purchases on line and sent to your home. When combined, just have a bullet button and 10 max. mags and you have yourself a California Legal AR15. Good luck.. Now for the M&P 15/22 since it is a RIM FIRE, Rim fires are not considered an assault rifle, so the bullet button does not apply, but the 10 rd mag. does.. So you can have your cake and eat it too, it's just a smaller slice, and someone is watching you eat it... Enjoy and welcome to Commifornia..

 

[PainterlyShotgroup]

Yes, California has tough laws, but there are ways that are legal to get around them. You can have an AR15 5.56 or .223, you just have to have a bullet button. Now for magazines, they have to be limited to only 10rounds (can't get away from that). The only item on an AR that needs lic. with a 10 day wait is the lower reciever, that's it. The rest of the rifle upper receiver, stock, barrel can be purchases on line and sent to your home. When combined, just have a bullet button and 10 max. mags and you have yourself a California Legal AR15. Good luck

Thanks Aceman! My AR is NY legal, which means the only two features are the pistol grip and the detachable magazine. In NY we can have two evil features instead of one. I put a bullet button on it so it should be fine for California. All my mags are 10 round.

As far as importing my firearms, is it something I have to do when I physically move, or can I import them after I get there? I'd imagine I'd then need to use an FFL if I were having them sent after the move....

 

[DonH]

Stay the hell away from San Francisco. It has been taken over and occupied by the enemy. If you have to work there find a place outside of the City to live.

Don in Oakland.

Also a City that has been taken over and occupied. And I'm not talking about the OWS boneheads.

 

[Sub95]

here is a flow chart, follow it and see if your rifle is legal.

( Link to other forum ) phil

 

[Jav]

I don't want to go against the forum rules here but join that forum, OP. They will help keep you legal, great community shoots, etc.

 

[Ddalvarez]

Do any of you guys know why S &W only sells one model of the 15-22 in california?.They have other 10 round models listed on the website (performance center, MOE) but only the basic model is listed as California approved.

 

[guy22]

Thanks guys!!! I try to learn something new every day.
Never knew what a bullet button was until today.


No thank you!!! Nope don't want one!!!

Today was election day. Did you vote???

Did you vote for people, who will then vote too stop these stuipd laws???

That is what a Republic does.
So if you are into this OWS stuff. Shift your target. The House and Senate need be front and center.

I better just shut up!!! I think I hear the PC Police pulling up out the door, and I have my 15-22 in my den cleaning it.

Vote!!!

Guy22

 

[hoonshyne]

stock up on 10-round mags!

 

[Jav]

Do any of you guys know why S &W only sells one model of the 15-22 in california?.They have other 10 round models listed on the website (performance center, MOE) but only the basic model is listed as California approved.

I bought the MOE in a shop in Southern California. If they don't have the PC model or whatever your looking for, I think you could just buy it from a shop online and transfer it to an FFL(as long as they send it with a 10 round mag or no mag at all). The MOE is pretty popular so that's probably why you don't see it in store.

 

[Mickey3Gun]

+1 For On-line or Auction Option

I bought the MOE in a shop in Southern California. If they don't have the PC model or whatever your looking for, I think you could just buy it from a shop online and transfer it to an FFL(as long as they send it with a 10 round mag or no mag at all). The MOE is pretty popular so that's probably why you don't see it in store.

+1 S&W is supposedly backlogged with 15-22 orders for all models.

Make sure they do not ship it to your local FFL with ANYTHING BUT A 10 ROUND MAGAZINE or as earlier stated no magazine at all. (Unless your FFL is a Class 3 dealer.) They are required to login the magazine's they receive with any rifle (EBR or not). That's what I did.

If your in SoCal, LA/OC area, PM me if you need a reliable FFL recommendation.

 

[Aceman58]

My take on the "California Compliant" is the manufactures attempt to tailor the AR for that states laws. For California, get a Bullet Button which makes the AR a non-assault weapon. But since the laws were written naming some manufactures specific make and model, they will always be illegal untill removed or amended. Most AR's come with a high cap mag, for "CC" states, they offer that states mag limitations, in Calif. case, 10 rounders (some just 10 and others offer 10/25, a high cap mag which is modified to only hold 10 and can never be un-modified). I wish someone would tell the Senators the bad guys don't care or even read these laws and just carry more mags.. I know, don't even go there with me...

These laws just make good citizens feel like WE are the CRIMINAL, and we call this land America!

 

[Jav]

These laws just make good citizens feel like WE are the CRIMINAL, and we call this land America!

Haha yeah, no kidding.