The Revolver vs. the Pistol for self defense. Which is better?

Really? I tried to get you the e-mail to the guy pictured and his SWAT team:
Wish I Could Carry A Revolver On Duty photo - Doug Wever photos at pbase.com Apparently they haven't gotten the word to ditch their revolvers, and I thought you could let them know they were endangering themselves because he looks pretty vulnerable to me too.

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I wouldn't depend on a revolver for home defense these days. In my area the big thing is home invasion, anywhere from 3-5 guys heavily armed with pistols and AK's and you want to defend your family with a 5 or 6 shot revolver. Surrender isn't really an option they are there more for the rape and murder then money.
these things just lose the fun factor once they meet resistance.
it could be a larger group on a home invasion, after you have killed 6 men with all the blood guts and gore capable of a max loaded 44. you will find plenty of time to reload.
I'd never discount a revolver as a viable weapon for as long as its three distinct advantages are accounted for.
out of box accuracy
power potential
reliability
 
If the Glock is so great, why is it that departments across the country have supplemented the shotguns with patrol rifles, i.e. AR15s? We never had to have those when we carried revolvers. And any Officer who leaves his shotgun in the car when he knows the S#%# is going to hit the fan doesn't need to be there to begin with.

The patrol rifles have a lot more to do with that Charlie Foxtrot in North Hollywood. Only one handgun I know of capable of the light body armor penetration they needed that day and it'd be impractical for the non-combat situations that most police shootings are. I see both sides of the auto vs. revolver debate. Honestly does one make the assailant any less dead than the other?
 
I'd like to say I'd come barging down the steps with my 329PD, but while shock and awe works great on a dude holding my stereo, I don't think its the right choice .... I'd love to say its gonna be my MP.45 where I'll strategically place a grouping the size of a dime in the BG's forehead like some of the other mall ninjas, I mean CCW badge holders, I mean Ex military who can't tell you whats on discharge papers , aka the under 20 gun professional/youtube expert/video champ .... I wish I could turn on the Mr. Coffee on my Mr. AR15, or come blazing into the room with my AK with jungle clips holding mags together ...

In all reality, the good 'ole Remington 870 will be racked at the top of the steps, and we'll go from there.

also, at 3am , I'm an ambien shooter ... last thing I need is to go for tacticool aiming as I do a backflip down the steps and cartwheel into the living room (this is, of course, after I've pinned the BG to a wall with a handfull of throwing stars) ...

Also, if 6 rounds in the 870 don't do the job, I feel alot better using THAT as a club than anything else I've got.

total sidenote : ... I've heard from more than one LEO and others here that if you're involved even in a 'good' shooting, you can say goodbye to your firearm for the next few years as it sits in 'the rust locker' ..... so with that said, I know the preservation of life is #1 .... but if I can do the same (if not better) job with my 870 that I can buy at bass pro shops @ 9am and not have to worry about my Range Officer or APEX'ed out MP ......

Then again, we'll see what the Ambien tells me to do...
 
I could do a back flip down the steps and cartwheel into the living room...............but.......only one time...................and not on purpose. ;) Regards 18DAI
 
Oh good Lord nogoodnamesleft.... Now you'll have sirrduke starting a thread asking which is better, throwing stars or blow darts for pinning bad guys against the wall.... :D

I'm more of a wussy than all you tough guy 5-shots-is-all-I'll-ever-need guys.

Give me at least a dozen rounds and maybe I'll be able to defend myself. Shots to the head? Probably not. I'll have hands shaking, bowels quaking, knees knocking and mind blocking terror going on. My first 5 shots may be just to orient the barrel in the right direction....
 
Oh good Lord nogoodnamesleft.... Now you'll have sirrduke starting a thread asking which is better, throwing stars or blow darts for pinning bad guys against the wall.... :D

I'm more of a wussy than all you tough guy 5-shots-is-all-I'll-ever-need guys.

Give me at least a dozen rounds and maybe I'll be able to defend myself. Shots to the head? Probably not. I'll have hands shaking, bowels quaking, knees knocking and mind blocking terror going on. My first 5 shots may be just to orient the barrel in the right direction....



Well that or you COULD spend some time at the range. Shooting a wheel gun is like any other acquired skill, PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I had a seeing eye dog for awhile. But he went deaf from the noise level of 357's fired in a room. :)
 
Because I'm a bit lazy, I've not read the whole thread. However, I carry both autos and revolvers, sometimes two of one kind, often one of each, and I'm quite proficient with both. If I was significantly more proficient with one or the other, then that is all I would ever carry. I feel pretty much equally well protected with either, and won't carry an example of either kind that is not dead-reliable.
 
The P47 was notoriously sluggish in dogfights due to its heavy armament which is why pilots preferred the P51. However, the P47 was good for attacking stationary targets.

That isn't true. Not only was the P-47 one of the fastest fighters in WW2, in terms of air combat was not outclassed by any other piston driven fighter. The P-47D, FW-190, P-51D, F6F and F4U are regarded together as the best mass produced piston driven fighters of the war. The P-47 also shot down more enemy aircraft than any other US fighter.

The reason the P-51 was favored by the 8th air force is it had a fuselage fuel tank and drop tanks which gave it a 1500 mile range, 3 times that of the P-47. This allowed the P-51 to escort US bombers all the way to Berlin (or anywhere in Europe) and back while the P-47s had to turn around in France.
 
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I'm not sure the data supports that, but also you didn't give a specific measurement on "very short barrel." Even with +P the .357 comes out on top from a 2.5" snub, with standard .38 the difference is even more dramatic.

From a snub nose web site, the following velocities were published for a 2.5 inch snub nose. These are not muzzle velocities, but taken ten feet away.

Ammunition Average Velocity (ft/sec):

Federal .38 Special 129-grain Hydrashok +P: 846 ft/sec
Winchester .38 Special 158-grain LSWCHP +P: 858 ft/sec

Remington .357 Magnum 125-grain SJHP: 1243 ft/sec (1,450 ft/sec published by Remington and in an independent article, no doubt measured from a longer barrel).

Article conclusion: While neither [ammo] is at its best in the snub, the magnum is the more potent of the two.

Well I was thinking more of an LCR or 640. No doubt a .357 magnum will always be faster than a similar bullet loaed to 38 spl pressures, but the shorter you get the less the difference is (and the more relevant the muzzle blast and recoil are). If you look at the exact same brands and bullets in both calibers in a 1.9" barrell you won't see the large difference you noted above. For example compare .357 hydrashocks vs. .38 hydrashocks out of 1.9".
 
I'll have hands shaking, bowels quaking, knees knocking and mind blocking terror going on.


Why would this be so, necessarily? You're not required to sustain all that you know.


I like revolvers best. Revolvers are repeating firearms though they don't have the capacity for the "spray and pray" crowd.

I'm not going to just burn off 6 rounds and then curl up in a fetal position while waiving a white flag. God gives us thinking caps. Also, a dose of appropriate self-confidence is helpful. I can materially influence a fight against even multiple assailants with only my six-shot revolver while exercising a measure of control over such a situation. It is what it is and all self defense situations are unique. They may even have superior firepower but, unless they've bushwhacked me, they've got problems of their own if I'm still capable of fighting with my six rounds.

If they shoot me before I can haul out the ordnance then I guess it was just my time to go.

What vivid imaginations must some folks have about personal self defense! Every self defense scenario doesn't involve standing stark naked with empty gun in the midst of a square mile of West Texas flatland with no cover, completely surrounded by a dozen drug-crazed gang members armed with Uzis and Glocks.
 
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