My new 586 no dash

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Just wanted to show off my new to me 586 no dash, SN ACH23XX. Also would like to find out about the M stamp, I read something about a modification on early 586's but can't remember where.
Greg
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That is a nice gun! Looks like the big brother to my 4" 586 no dash. The "M" means it was modified by the factory which included a new firing pin and firing pin bushing as part of a recall.
 
Very Nice,
The "M" indicates it had a new Hammer Nose bushing installed.
There apparently was an incident of soft primer flowback creating the possability of cylinder stoppage.

There are many early 586 / 686 581/ 681's out there that never had the mod and never had a problem.
S&W still does the mod for free if you have one and are concerned.
I have one with and one without and have no plans to send it in for the mod.
There might be a sticky on it as the queston comes up from time to time.
 
Thanks for the replies.

Engine49guy: Thanks for the info on the M stamp. I phrased that poorly in my original post, my 586 does not have the M stamp and I was thinking about sending it in.
Last nite I talked to S&W about the recall. The person I talked to said that not all guns had the soft bushing problem.
The way he explained it to me was that after as little as 200 rounds fired the firing pin would go in to the primer farther and stick. I decided to wait and see if it happens in my gun.
For reference I saved 5 fired cases to compare to later.

Side note on shipping to S&W for recall: He was not offering to send a free shipper to me. When I asked about it he said that "if I was adamant about it" he would send one"
Greg
 
Side note on shipping to S&W for recall: He was not offering to send a free shipper to me. When I asked about it he said that "if I was adamant about it" he would send one"
Greg
I think I would be adamant about talking to a supervisor.

And as to the original problem with those "L" Frame Firing pin bushings; I understood that the problem was the internal diameter was a little to large allowing softer primers to flow into the hole. I had that happen with a 686 no dash. Not only would the cylinder not turn, it would not open without considerable force being applied.
 
I just sent mine to them for the recall and they provided a free shipping label. You should absolutely have the recall done. Mine was fine until I used Magtech ammo, which I like. The cylinder started binding after a few rounds.
 
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SMITH & WESSON, MODEL 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1 & 686CS-1, REVOLVERS
Reports have been received from the field where the combination of a SMITH & WESSON L-FRAME 357 MAGNUM REVOLVER and some .357 Magnum ammunition has resulted in unacceptable cylinder binding. L-frame revolvers bearing model numbers:
581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1
Cylinder binding can cause a failure to fire. Mishandling a revolver while freeing the cylinder can result in accidental discharge.
Cylinder binding can result from a number of causes, including characteristics of an individual revolver or the use of ammunition, which does not conform to industry pressure specifications or is particularly fast burning. Recent developments in ammunition manufacture emphasize the production of .357 Magnum ammunition with increased velocity and greater primer sensitivity.
Although there have been very few reported incidents of cylinder binding, in view of our concern for our customer's safety and the reliability of Smith & Wesson products in all circumstances, we issue the following warning:
In a situation where a failure to fire can be critical - such as law enforcement or personal protection - do not use .357 Magnum ammunition with an L-frame revolver bearing model numbers 581, 586, 681, 686 or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number until you have had the revolver modified.
Those who need to use their L-frame revolver under these conditions prior to modification can safely fire .38 Special caliber ammunition.
Smith & Wesson has developed a modification to improve existing L-frame revolvers. This improvement enables them to fire all .357 Magnum ammunition, without cylinder binding. Shipments of L-frame revolvers from our factory after August 21, 1987 already include this improvement.
You can check if your revolver includes this improvement by looking at the left side of the frame when the cylinder is fully open. If your revolver has been stamped either with a "2" or higher number after the basic three-digit model number or with an "M" above the model number, your revolver includes this improvement and does not need modification. If your revolver bears the model number 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number, it does not include this improvement and your should have your revolver modified.
Smith & Wesson will modify your L-frame revolver free of charge to eliminate the possibility of cylinder binding with .357 Magnum ammunition. Law enforcement agencies wishing to arrange for modification of L-frame revolvers should call 800-458-8469 between 9 A.M. and 6 P.M. Eastern time (MA residents call 413-734-8244). Other users should send their revolvers to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center, specifying "L-frame improvement program" and enclosing their name and return address.
One of the modifications to improve the L-frame revolver is the installation of a new hammer nose. This obsoletes all old L-frame hammer noses (part numbers 4702 and 7513) and all old L-frame hammer assemblies (part numbers 3366, 3378, 3380, 3382, 3391, 4722, 4723, 4726 and 4728) in field parts inventories. Superseded parts should never be fitted into a modified revolver as this may result in malfunction. It is essential for safety that you return these obsolete L-frame hammer noses and obsolete L-frame hammer assemblies for a free exchange to:
Smith & Wesson
Service Department
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01101
Do not return L-frame hammer-nose bushings from your spare parts inventory inasmuch as they are useable in J, N and K-frame revolvers, which are not included in this Product Warning.
We regret any inconvenience this may cause. Smith & Wesson's first concern is the safety of its products and the protection of its customers.
 
Thanks Hearsedriver fo the detailed info. I will be calling Smith back and arrange to send it in.
Greg
 
I called S&W tonite and they are sending a free shipping label.
The rep I talked to asked "how did I hear about this recall?' I told him I read about it on an S&W internet forum. The reason he asked was that he had about 10 calls today about the same thing.
All is good.
Greg
 
Those are some nice guns there hoss. I just brought my 586 No-dash 6"bbl home today. Man its a nice gun. had to get it because its the little brother to my 29 classic. lol! very very nice!! :D

Here's a couple pics of my beauty's :D
 

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