sad 29-1

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OK, so by reading here I realize the 29 I inherited from my dad is a 29-1! I always thought it was a bit of a dog (see pics) so wasn't sure why he owned it - now I know. Does anyone have an idea what caused the grooving on the cylinder (in the second picture, in the flute and behind the fluting? It is old (smooth), but looks like rope!

The gun is fun to shoot, but now I think I might want to trade it out instead of taking it in the woods! Given the condition (also no box), would I be out of line looking for a 629, 8-3/8 barrel with a scope as an even trade? Or should I give or get cash with that?

Here's the album with a few pics: https://plus.google.com/photos/108933907134509320189/albums/5699176844114974625

Thanks!

Kevin
 
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The M29-1 was only made in 1960. They are very rare. Even in that condition, which really doesn't look bad at all, it is a very desirable revolver. The grips are obviously not correct, look like Pachmyers. The line on the cylinder is a "turn line". They all get those eventually, although that one looks a bit more pronounced. It's probably out of time.
I would say get a good estimate on what it's worth. It should be a lot more than a M629.
Jim
 
I have a few pieces that I inherited from my Dad. They are not perfect, but they will never be sold. To me, they are priceless.

If I wanted a 629, I would certainly look for an older one to buy. As for the 29, I would have it checked for function and safety, clean it up a bit, find a set of correct grips, and maybe shoot it some. But I would certainly never let that one get away. But that's me.
 
father's 29-1

Hi Kevin,
I looked at the photos you linked.
I assume the grips in the photo's are from your father too.?
There was a pair, I believe number four that look like the right grips for your fathers gun, they would certainly fit at least, check for serial number inside.
Check them out from the back, I think you will see that they are what is commonly referred to as "cokes's"That is because when viewed from back,
they have a swell that is shaped like a coke bottle.
They are rather valuable themselves and would look great and are probably original. If serialized to gun , they are worth probably 30-40% of gun.Please don't separate though ! All right, it is none of my business , but I hope if you do sell, you will sell together, I sure hate to see them all get separated. I am goofy that way I guess.

Good luck, and I would think long and hard about selling that gun of your fathers.
 
Some things you just can't put a value on. I have the 1911 my father handed down to me. Thinking back when I was young I remember it hanging in my grandfather on my fathers side closet for several years since my father was still going in and out of the country. Then my other grandfather borrowed it later in life for a security job and carried it for a couple of years. The first time I fired it I had to be all of ten years old. A lot of history in this 1944 Ithaca.

Keep the gun, if you don't appreciate it now you certainly will one day I promise you.

My fathers 1911.
1911-1.jpg
 
your dad

had a classic......... looks like a wise old fire arm to me
 
From the photos the rope like markings may be just corrosion from being stored wrong some time down the line. Probably was'nt oiled either before stored and might have rested on something to give the impressions on the gun shown. I'm like the other posters. If it was my dads gun it would'nt be leaving my ownership. But if you want to sell it PM me and i'll make an offer.
 
Kevin, what is the serial number? Your 29-1 most probably shipped in 1962. I would keep it but if you want to sell/trade it, I would ask at least 1500 in $ or trade. There are only about 2 dozen 29-1s documented to date.:)
Regards
Chuck
 
Hi Kevin,
I looked at the photos you linked.
I assume the grips in the photo's are from your father too.?
There was a pair, I believe number four that look like the right grips for your fathers gun, they would certainly fit at least, check for serial number inside.
Check them out from the back, I think you will see that they are what is commonly referred to as "cokes's"That is because when viewed from back,
they have a swell that is shaped like a coke bottle.
They are rather valuable themselves and would look great and are probably original. If serialized to gun , they are worth probably 30-40% of gun.Please don't separate though ! All right, it is none of my business , but I hope if you do sell, you will sell together, I sure hate to see them all get separated. I am goofy that way I guess.

Good luck, and I would think long and hard about selling that gun of your fathers.

all i see are pachmayers.
are you messing w/this guy?:confused:
 
There is no way that I'd sell or trade that gun.
It has two very special things going for it.
It's rare, and more importantly, it belonged to your Father.

You might not think so now, but I'm sure you'd be kicking yourself one day wishing that you'd have kept it. And if not you, maybe your son or daughter.

I'd clean it up, have a good gunsmith go over it, and then look for a pair of correct vintage diamond targets.
But that's just me.
 
My father left me a 36, 3 inch Sq. butt. nothing special about the gun except it was my dads. Ill never let go of this gun. You can buy a good 29 or 629 without going bankrupt.
 
Thanks for the help all!

Don't get me wrong - this isn't the only gun I inherited from my father. He was definitely a collector - I remember quite a few different guns that only had temporary homes with us - traded for other things along the way. My 17-5, though not rare, will stay with me. It is one of the prettiest from the collection and quite fun as a shooter too. He occasionally took this 29 out for deer (though never shot one with it) - so I'd like to have a gun for that purpose, but one with less collector value than this one in case anything happens to it. I also have his collection of patches from bullseye target shooting all framed up along with his army marksman award and uniform name tag. Plus a couple of rifles with sentimental value (like the 22 I got to shoot at the end of hunters safety class).

ralph7 - the grips reference is from a batch of grips I sold recently. Yes, I think I made a dumb mistake and sold the grips from this gun in that batch - oh well, live and learn.

29-1: I'll get the serial off it tonight (at work now). Really $1500 as-is?? Do many LGS shops recognize that value or are they clueless about the rarity?

Thanks!

Kevin
 
old 1911

Some things you just can't put a value on. I have the 1911 my father handed down to me. Thinking back when I was young I remember it hanging in my grandfather on my fathers side closet for several years since my father was still going in and out of the country. Then my other grandfather borrowed it later in life for a security job and carried it for a couple of years. The first time I fired it I had to be all of ten years old. A lot of history in this 1944 Ithaca.

Keep the gun, if you don't appreciate it now you certainly will one day I promise you.

My fathers 1911.
1911-1.jpg

i have 2 0f them; a full size 45 acp and a 60's chrome combat commander in 28 super. plain old no frill 1911's are the best. i dislikes the looks of the new production 1911's with all that "stuff" on them.
 
29-1: I'll get the serial off it tonight (at work now). Really $1500 as-is?? Do many LGS shops recognize that value or are they clueless about the rarity?

Gunshops are pretty clueless about a bunch of things. They also specialize in cheating innocent lambs brought to slaughter.

This forum is full of some pretty smart people. Not all are smart about all things. If Chuck tells you its worth $1500, or at least is an asking price, I think you can pretty well bank on it. He's our resident expert on 29-1s. He tells you there are only a couple dozen of them known. Could be half of them are his! :D

Rule #1, don't trust your local gun shop for anything. They may seem sincere, and they may actually just be dumb. But don't let that prize go to the low bidders.

Other stuff. The scar on the cylinder is probably some kind of damage from a holster or from being allowed to rest on something with vibration. Maybe in a truck glove box, or similar. Don't worry about it, the gun "is what it is". A rarity. Sure, it would be worth more if it hadn't worked for a living for the past half century. Maybe it can tell stories the factory new ones will never dream of.

My advice would be to keep it. We don't allow auctions here on this board. Your gun is an example of why maybe it would be nice on occasion.
 
OK, improper as it is, I'm going to follow my post with another.

Family guns are a touchy subject. People value them highly. Some for good reasons, some just out of romance. I don't have my fathers guns. I gave them away. "We" have one that was my paternal grandfathers. Its at my youngest son's house right now. Destined to by his son's gun when he gets old enough. He's not even 6 yet, so give him 10 or 20 years. The rest of the "family" guns are pretty well split between my sons. I don't want them, nor do I want the battles that ensue. They were mine, I distributed them as I saw fit. Anyone doesn't like it, they need to take it up with me (and I can be very "un-nice" when needed.)

It only leaves my guns. When I croak in the near future, I sure hope my wife gives David Carroll a phone call to come get what he wants to sell off. He did a spectacular job of selling off Mike Noe's collection over the last few years. He got her several multiples of what our favorite LGS had offered. He's familiar with my tiny and scroungy collection.

Almost none of the guns I've got have particular value based on sentiment. Surely none that David would be an expert at selling. Those would be long guns that I've had for decades and maybe my son's would like 'ONE' of those. Just because Dad owned it isn't reason to keep them. When Dad (me) bought a gun, it was because it was cool. But a gun I bought last month carries very little of "Dad" along with it. A gun I bought to plug a hole in my collection a couple of years ago might not ever become a family heirloom. That status is for guns that were few in the old guys closet. If Dad owned, say, 100 guns, each of those probably carry along only 1/100th of the sentiment that a single gun, the only handgun "Dad" owned carries.

Dad's favorite gun might be of great value. Mine might be of great monetary value, but only because I paid that much! My son's have never seen me carry my engraved guns. Know why? Its easy, I don't ever carry them, except to gun shows for "show and tell". My carry guns are getting a little beat up now. You know, a coin or key scratch here and there. I see no great value there.

My soon to be widow can use the money however she wants I guess. If she becomes poor in her later years, and she gave away a bunch of $$ worth of guns, I'll haunt her. I have some confidence my son's won't sell the guns off, but they'd sure use the money if they had it. They need to work for their riches, just like old Dad! :D

As I get wind of plans to dump my guns for drug money or electronic games money, I think I'd sell them off first. Be careful of grumpy old men.
 
Pattontime wasn't yanking yo chain, Ralph. There was a pair of what appeared to be N-frame cokes in his post. Dig a little deeper.
 
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