How many carry a round in the chamber?

[BillR1]

If you're carrying to protect your life, there's always one in the pipe. The safety on the gun is between your ears.

 

[JRWnTN]

I wonder which of these there are more instances of?

1. Self-inflicted injury or death while having a round chambered.
2. Injury or death from not having a round chambered.

You need to add and third option:

3. Unintentional injuries or deaths while chambering or unchambering a round.

I'll bet #3 has more victims.

 

[vstromrider]

now lets get back to a easy subject.. say politics.....

 

[spricks]

No Way, I hate politics more.....I'm tired of most of the folks that carry full battery say ...YOU NEED MORE TRAINING....hogwash.....I have more training than most folks and it's my choice to carry the way I want and also take the 2 seconds to rack the slide if needed. There...now I'm done too!

spricks

 

[MMA_FAN]

No Way, I hate politics more.....I'm tired of most of the folks that carry full battery say ...YOU NEED MORE TRAINING....hogwash.....I have more training than most folks and it's my choice to carry the way I want and also take the 2 seconds to rack the slide if needed. There...now I'm done too!

spricks

I agree with you sir 100%!!! This is The United States Of America. Carry how you want, Chambered or not. But there is left wing liberals out there more interested in making new gun laws telling us how to carry. And i will bet it is more likely that those liberals will be telling people to not carry with a weapon hot than you will see people insisting that people carry weapons hot as you say that the people in this thread are. So i ask you. Please support us who prefer to carry our weapons how we like and i will agree to disagree on carry preferences and call it a day.

Edit: I am not LEO or Military trained however I have been shot at. I have been in a gun fight. And it doesn't matter if you have one in the pipe or not. If you get shot first you are likely not going to come out alive. I am lucky that i did. And from that experience alone i will carry all my weapons hot or condition one where ever it is legal for me to do so.

 

[EricXL]

I carry with one in the chamber AND THAT'S IT. no magazine. Im that good. I can kill 3 assailants with one 9mm bullet.

 

[MMA_FAN]

I carry with one in the chamber AND THAT'S IT. no magazine. Im that good. I can kill 3 assailants with one 9mm bullet.

These are the people i am worried about. You should be too!

 

[Delta-3]

I've never understood the "don't carry one in the chamber" crowd. Probably never will.
I agree, Carry your weapon any way you like. It's your life. Or your family's , or both. Either way, it's not going to affect me much, if at all.
Give this some thought though the next time you step out of the house.
I've been in more "gun" fights than I care to remember, and that's not many. The bad guy (s) always have the element of suprise. They pick the time & place of the attack. You, well your just going about your daily business, right? You'll have to take a leap of faith with me here. Your "spidey" sense doesn't work most of the time. You think it does, but you'd be wrong. Your mind is distracted with, kids, converstion, what chores you have to get done that day, etc.
Gunfights happen, fast. within a blink of the eye. They are brutal, savage & deadly serious! There is no glamour, or glory.It is kill or be killed, period! Your fine motor skills go out the window. Your mind & body will fall back on it's training. No matter what or how much of it you've had. 99.9 & 9/10's of the time, you will panic & point your weapon & keep pulling the trigger until it runs dry. That's just the way it is. You can't even imagine the stress your subjected to until you live through it.
Anyway, sorry for the lecture. My point is carry a round in the chamber. When you need it, YOU NEED IT NOW! Not two seconds later after you've drawn & racked the slide.(if you even get the chance) I'm going to bet that in that situation, your going to forget. Your going to draw & start yanking the trigger, not even knowing that the weapon isn't even going off & your going to die. (if the bad guy also didn't forget).
Maybe you'll get lucky & the bad guy or guys will wait until your ready before they attack.
Remember, it's not just your life gents, it's your wifes life. Your childrens life. Your friends life & the aftermath is worse on them if you lose, than if you win.
( I was really only going to make a short point but once I got started I couldn't stop). I apologize but I hope I've given some of you something to consider.

 

[M2MikeGolf]

When i was a Az state correction officer we never had a round in the chamber not in the shotgun or the 223 or the pistol.. any one want to guess why...

Here's my guess; they were all sitting on on couches when they should have been training how to carry and use their weapons. They probably didn't carry weapons when off duty for the same reason.

If you can't safely carry a loaded weapon within it's intended design to fire and function, than you have no business being in a profession that requires it's use.

 

[jppezz23]

I always carry 1 in the chamber.

 

[sgt.207]

Always loaded and ready to go.

 

[vstromrider]

Here's my guess; they were all sitting on on couches when they should have been training how to carry and use their weapons. They probably didn't carry weapons when off duty for the same reason.

If you can't safely carry a loaded weapon within it's intended design to fire and function, than you have no business being in a profession that requires it's use.

chambers were empty to prevent ADs. went thru 2 riots while i was there. never had a time I was not able to load a round in time.. The army also on occasion depending on roe have no round in the chamber. As you well know

 

[M2MikeGolf]

The army also on occasion depending on roe have no round in the chamber

Sometimes ROE calls for chambered rounds, sometimes not. That depends completely on the mission, not on whether or not you can skip training or count on your personnel to use their weapon safely.

I chambered three weapons a day for thirteen months and sometimes even came back at the end of the day with the same round chambered; I cleared my weapon and got ready for the next day like thousands of other soldiers. Those that couldn't do that safely were punished and retrained.

You've missed my point, which is that if you are going to carry a weapon, then you should be able to carry it to the level it was designed for, and that requires training and practice. If you cannot, then you you simply shoudn't carry it. If the law states you must not carry a round chambered, then that is different, you do what the law dictates. The Army doesn't tell soldiers to not chamber a round because there is fear that soldiers will have negligent discharges, but rather based on the threat level and the need for timely response and escalation of force measures. If an organization doesn't trust it's own personnel to the point of reducing the units readiness level based on the premise their personnel may accidentally shoot innocent people or each other, then they have a serious, critical training issue as you should well know.

 

[K Frame Keith]

Train with the weapon, then load it to capacity. Don't do so until you feel comfortable doing so. A loaded weapon is dangerous, an unloaded weapon is useless. Loading a weapon under stress is no safer than handling a loaded weapon under stress. Training and familiarity with the weapon are essential.

 

[Warren Sear]

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When i was a Az state correction officer we never had a round in the chamber not in the shotgun or the 223 or the pistol.. any one want to guess why...

No, I don't want to guess. Please tell us.

 

[Houdini1953]

I know that safety is an issue but when you carry a firearm for self defense it (the weapon) should always be loaded and ready to fire.

You never know what condition you might be in if you had to actually use your weapon, what if you had a bag of groceries or other store bought items???

You simply do not have time to place them down then rack the slide to chamber a round ready for firing ( only after getting your gun ) two seconds could cost you your life in a bad situation so expect the worst outcome but be prepared, without a round in the chamber you will lose every time, in this case ultimate safety is dangerous.

Beside that fact unless you or something pulls the two stage trigger of an M&P it will not do anything at all. Mine all are fully loaded at all times and after 30 years of owning and carrying a semi auto I have never had one to shoot unless I intended to shoot something!

 

[M2MikeGolf]

Beside that fact unless you or something pulls the two stage trigger of an M&P it will not do anything at all. Mine all are fully loaded at all times and after 30 years of owning and carrying a semi auto I have never had one to shoot unless I intended to shoot something!

One of the reasons why the military likes two stage triggers. Sounds to me like you are trained, practiced and proficient with your weapons, which of course should be the requirements for those who carry firearms; some understand that, some don't. Safety is an issue alright, but that is taken care of automatically if you are proficient, since that is a requirement of proficiency.

For those that think you shouldn't carry a semi-auto with a chambered round, I can't help but wonder how they think a revolver should be carried and if they claim their LEO won't let them chamber rounds, sort of have to wonder how those organizations handled revolvers when they still issued them.

 

[vstromrider]

Again carry how ever you desire, I am glad you carry.
I have had formal training from the state, from Front sight, from Border patrol SRT. have shot combat matches and won. I do ok.. My carry mode depends ON my ROE which depends on what I am carrying and where.
Your have a problem with that. then that is your problem and I am guessing thats not your only issue...

 

[davegarage]

revolver always ready

The smith revolver next to my bed is always "chambered"..
The non-smith auto in my truck is chambered, with a spare clip next to it.
If they have to see it, you better be ready to show them what it's for.

Let's hope that day never comes.

Peace.

 

[jaykellogg]

Gun manufacturers try very hard to design weapons that can be carried with a round in the chamber. For the record, I carry a DAO weapon with no safety and a round in the chamber. If I were forbidden to carry with a round in the chamber, I would probably switch to a revolver or my 1911 with a 3½ pound trigger. How would that be safer?