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I see the new ones come with SB, so I'm happy.
Yea or nay: S&W model 617
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I see the new ones come with SB, so I'm happy.
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A friend had a 617 with a 6 inch barrel. I found that gun with it's heavy underlug barrel to be too heavy up front. I opted for the 4 inch 617 and have no regrets. The trigger has really smoothed out after a case or so of ammo.
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Looks like they opened it at $995 and removed the reserve,
It is wearing wrong grips but at least they are K diamond targets (worth abut $100) ,
Unfortunately Correct FG Combats will probably cost about that if not more.
BTW, Of course any RB can be converted to SB with RB to SB conversion grips but for the person that has a 6" 617 or 17-6
and yearns for it to be a 4" Midway sells 4" barrels in blue and SS.
Barrel Costs about $120 , I think S&W will do the swap for $70....Food for thought.
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Nope, the new ones are round butt. However, you use conversion grips as shown in my post above. The 617 has been round butt since the 617-2 was introduced in 1996.
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Bud's, among other dealers on GB have them listed as SB.
Sure looks like a SB.
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Florida Guy, without X-Ray vision I don't think that you can conclude that this revolver "sure looks like a SB". By looking at the picture of my 625 Mountain Gun below, it is impossible to tell (from that same point of view as your pic) that it's a RB, as it's wearing SB conversion grips by Ahrends. S&W deleted the SB revolvers from their standard line in 1996 according to The Standard Catalog. Some SBs may appear in the Classic line, of that I am uncertain. As you piqued my interest, I scrutinized both GB and Bud's sites. NOWHERE could I find an ad selling a current 617 with a square butt. Perhaps you might post it ? ? ?
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All I did to mine is put a set of Target K frame grips. Works for me.
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All I did to mine is put a set of Target K frame grips. Works for me.
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That 617 is definately a round butt gun with Rb to SB Conversion grips,
If you look close you can see where the backstrap turns in,
Even though a RB can be converted to a SB with grips but not visa versa,
I still prefer a SB in a 4" gun and a RB in a 3" or less snub.
If you look close you can see where the backstrap turns in,
Even though a RB can be converted to a SB with grips but not visa versa,
I still prefer a SB in a 4" gun and a RB in a 3" or less snub.
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Sent PM with info.
I have sent you two active GB auctions with both dealers describing this gun as a SB.
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As others have said, those are round to square butt conversion grips on a round butt frame. My two 617-4s pictured above shipped with similar rubber conversion grips which I have replaced with the Ahrends shown.
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I agree, they are probably RB guns, but all I'm saying is that there are at least 2 dealers with auctions on GB describing the guns as SB.
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Florida Guy, I rec'd your PM's and you are correct--they DO list both revolvers as Square Butts. I Googled the Product Code and came up with this revolver which is CLEARLY described as a Square Butt. At this point, I don't know what to think or say. This flies in the face of info in the Standard Catalog, and the mainstream of forum opinion......Smith & Wesson 617 K-22 Masterpiece Revolver .22 LR 4in 10rd Stainless for sale - 160584 - Tombstone Tactical
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They must be confused by the conversion grips,
The Model 17 (IL) "Classics" are SB guns but the 617 has RB frame with SB grips.
The Model 17 (IL) "Classics" are SB guns but the 617 has RB frame with SB grips.
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That's what I'm thinkin', Engine49guy, BUT there ain't no disputing what the ads state. Can these 3 different gun dealers all be so confused or ill-informed ? ? ?
I just purchased a SW 617-6 with 4" barrel. I ordered it through Scheels and it cost me $850.00. Only paid $698.00 for my matching 686P with 4" barrel. I shot about 80 rounds of various brands of ammo, 10 rounds of Federal, 10 rounds of Remington Golden bullets, but the majority was Blazer. I have extreme leading in the first inch of the barrel. It is so bad I can't get a jag through that part of the barrel. It looks like a cave in there with stalactites and stalagmites. What do you fellow 617 owners use to clean the lead from your revolvers?
I called SW Customer Service and it was suggested that I didn't clean the barrel well before shooting. He also cautioned against shooting copper coated ammo after shooting lead. He said it is OK to shoot lead after copper but not copper after lead.
I like that the 617 looks just like my 686. It is just like shooting the .357 686 just not as loud, not so much recoil, and much cheaper to shoot.
When you get your new 617 make sure to clean the barrel very well to get all the preservative lube out of it.
I called SW Customer Service and it was suggested that I didn't clean the barrel well before shooting. He also cautioned against shooting copper coated ammo after shooting lead. He said it is OK to shoot lead after copper but not copper after lead.
I like that the 617 looks just like my 686. It is just like shooting the .357 686 just not as loud, not so much recoil, and much cheaper to shoot.
When you get your new 617 make sure to clean the barrel very well to get all the preservative lube out of it.
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I have shot copper washed ammo for years, AFTER LEAD in both handguns and rifles W/O a problem. Clean the weapon thoroughly, and shoot a coupla boxes of CCI Standard Velocity .22LR ONLY. Check the barrel. If it's leaded up, DON'T CLEAN IT. Call S&W and ask for a shipping label. CCI SV ammo is clean and shoots very well in all of my weapons. IF your barrel leads up, there is an issue with your revolver....
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Sorry, but that sure sounds like a broken firing pin or a ding waiting to happen It also sounds lazy; no offense, but it does.
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