I'm sick

lets see .. we are up to 101 years of service from an essentially unchanged design having a track record in that time frame that is stuff of legend give or take the inevitable lemon.
we've seen glock related AD's and ND's as well as KB's posted many times over. Now Im sure that the 1911 has had its fair share of these as well Even the SAA colt has its faults (need for an empty chamber as well as some KB's to its credit) these are all machines, man made and not delivered on the wings of cherubs from the heavens above, thus all subject to failure.
when I searched for a weapon to fill the defensive pistol slot, I chose caliber first, and let the designs chambered for that caliber speak for themselves. as you whittle it down to the last 4 or 5 guns, it gets into some real nit picky details between the 1911, XD, Glock, M&P, and USP. the 1911 won for its thin profile, near infinite parts support for customization and repair, near endless holster options, and its system of safeties which lends well to its use by my far less gun savvy than I, wife, if ever she needs to use it.
even with a shorter list of criteria, thin profile, holsters, and safety still puts it on top.
whats left to debate ...
I'm off to finish building a preamp .. rock on folks
 
I like Glocks too,and agree,in fact,know FOR a fact that any 1911 is more maintenance intensive.However,James I love me Yeager makes me wanna puke. There are much better instructors. Some of 'em won't even abandon their buddies in a firefight. I love 1911's,too.
 
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66Park said:
I just read a couple of that guy's responses to people's postings about his video. No class whatsoever.

I trusted my life to a pair of 1911s for years. I never had a single malfunction with thousands of rounds. Shoot yours a lot to verify it is reliable, just like you would with any new gun before carrying, and you should be fine. My current choice for a self defense gun is an HK P30 in 9mm, but I think a solid 1911 is still a fine choice. By the way, I really don't like Glocks, but to each his own.
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For Sure For Sure No Class! 1911's have been around for 100 years for a reason, They Work, It was the U.S. sidearm for over 50 years I think. Love your 1911 & enjoy it!
 
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I read all the posts thankfully so I didn't watch the video.

Like others here, I have owned several different 1911's. They always performed as they should and I never felt bad carrying one.

I know of a 1911 on a rental range that has over 200,000 rounds through it. It shakes and rattles but still runs strong.
 
Do you think that the U. S. Marines didn't know that Glock made a .45? One would think they have at least as good a resume as our internet commando friend.

"It was performance based. . . . We picked the best-performing pistol," said Charles Clark III, who oversees infantry weapons requirements at the Corps' Combat Development and Integration office in Quantico, Va.
 
jd330 -- that was also for their special ops, and those guys get to shop around without some of the usual constraints. They can buy what they want, and they want the 1911.

As several have said, the 1911 is one of the most successful military combat tested weapons in history. That's just a cold hard fact. Soldiers aren't shy about expressing their opinions about an inferior weapon and they sure don't bring them home with them and buy more just like it for a century.

No gun is perfect, including Glock, and I'm not even a regular 1911 carrier, but the idea that arguably the most heavily adopted and used combat handgun design is so flawed that finding a good one is as "rare" as a bad Glock is on its face laughable.

As for being finicky or requiring hand tuning, consider that just under 2 million were made in WWII alone by a multiple of manufacturers with parts shared between them, and they were maintained throughout the war and long after with existing parts inventories that were sometimes arsenal refinished but certainly had 100s of 1,000s kept functioning with simple parts replacement.

As I said I'm no 1911 expert, for SA semis I prefer Hi-Powers, but it requires no firearms knowledge at all to examine the massive dataset for 1911 performance under combat conditions to conclude this guy is engaged in absurd levels of hyperbole. None is perfect, but in the end no weapon that gave such terrible performance would be in demand by soldiers coming back from war for decades using this weapon, and I can't count how many I have known who swear by them b/they used them under fire in every war from WWII to Korea to Vietnam. They aren't fools, they know what works in the mud.
 
After years of running 1911's and 2011 guns in USPSA and seeing them choke, sputter and die in every form imaginable I personally won't use one for serious purposes.

For me personally the 1911 is a Formula 1 car. When they are set up and maintained right nothing else can touch them. There is not one 1911 I have ever seen off the shelf I wouldnt change something about before I would enjoy shooting it. Still love them but IMO there are much better alternatives for a carry gun.

All that said if a guy is confident in his gun more power to him. I would much rather see a guy who actually shoots his 1911 than a guy with the latest M&P, RMR sighted wonder tactipistol who just talks about how pro it makes him look and has 100 rounds down the pipe.

As for Yeager I wouldnt train with him but I do watch his stuff on occasion and try to take things away that make sense to me and leave the rest. It doesnt happen often but if nothing else I am fascinated by the internet famous phenomenon and he is the personification of it.

To the OP: Shoot your gun. If you like it and trust it keep shooting it and use it. If not try something else. Internet videos are like the old Temptations line "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear."
 
This Yeager guy or what ever his name is is an idiot no way around it . The only combat he has ever seen was trying to get the womans shirt off of the woman he took it off of so he could wear it . And he is an instructor . Give me a break . 2 secs of that youboob video was enough for me .
 
jd330 said:
Military dot com just recently reported that the marines have just signed a 22 million plus contract with Colt for guess what? Colt 1911 based pistols.

Marines Pick Colt for New Pistol | Military.com
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That is for their high speed guys to replace the ones falling apart. Its not a contract for the Marines as a whole. There are threads on line showing the aftermath of the testing done on the selected Colt pistols. Several pics show frame cracks yet they still selected the gun.

Personally I dont put a lot of faith in what the military and police organizations use. Most Joe Sixpack civilians dont have an armorer and chain of support to run too when something is hinky and .gov procurement programs are not known for their efficiency. See the HK Mk 23 program.
 
bluegrassarms said:
jd330 -- that was also for their special ops, and those guys get to shop around without some of the usual constraints. They can buy what they want, and they want the 1911.

As several have said, the 1911 is one of the most successful military combat tested weapons in history. That's just a cold hard fact. Soldiers aren't shy about expressing their opinions about an inferior weapon and they sure don't bring them home with them and buy more just like it for a century.

No gun is perfect, including Glock, and I'm not even a regular 1911 carrier, but the idea that arguably the most heavily adopted and used combat handgun design is so flawed that finding a good one is as "rare" as a bad Glock is on its face laughable.

As for being finicky or requiring hand tuning, consider that just under 2 million were made in WWII alone by a multiple of manufacturers with parts shared between them, and they were maintained throughout the war and long after with existing parts inventories that were sometimes arsenal refinished but certainly had 100s of 1,000s kept functioning with simple parts replacement.

As I said I'm no 1911 expert, for SA semis I prefer Hi-Powers, but it requires no firearms knowledge at all to examine the massive dataset for 1911 performance under combat conditions to conclude this guy is engaged in absurd levels of hyperbole. None is perfect, but in the end no weapon that gave such terrible performance would be in demand by soldiers coming back from war for decades using this weapon, and I can't count how many I have known who swear by them b/they used them under fire in every war from WWII to Korea to Vietnam. They aren't fools, they know what works in the mud.
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I agree overall except for whats highlighted. Its easy to keep millions of guns functioning and even cannibalizing some to keep others running when you have basically an unlimited budget. With that kind of money anything is possible. But as civilian shooters we must pay out of our own pocket to keep them running. Quality parts are not cheap, quality gun smiths are not cheap. I had a WC ambi safety added to my 1911. took 3 weeks (wait time. Busy smith) and $200. While $200 wont break the bank it certainly wasn't a fart in the wind. And thats just one safety + instalation work/time. Now this smith is local. If he wasnt I'd have to ship it of and that would cost more money. Now I want better sights (at least $100) a better trigger and a new main spring. On top of that I'll eventually need to get the ejector tunned and replace springs.
 
I think this guy did just what he set out to do; generate controversy, and get a ton of people to watch his video for exposure to his website and DVD's. Over 62,000 have watched it so far, ant that's up from just over 60,000 from yesterday.
 
looks like it took a wild ride since I manned the soldering iron yesterday.
I didn't expect that to be honest.
Ive got one last triode stage in the preamp to tune. Painstaking but worth it. thus far its 3 channels perform wonderfully into the the reference power amp. clean channel has a sweet chime to it and starts to cross over into a nice bluesy crunch with a good crank on the gain knob. Lead channel is particularly fun, drop the gain and its clarity comes fairly close to clean. Regulating the input signal at the guitar allows a wide range of driven tones from near pristine to burn your face off without any need for a stomp box. but if you must add a heavy metal peddle it may be added into the external loop.

the bottom line is this .... I didn't waste the day bickering over two proven designs pointing out their exceptions. For that, I am over half way through building one awesome piece of hard rocki'n bliss.
 
venomballistics said:
looks like it took a wild ride since I manned the soldering iron yesterday.
I didn't expect that to be honest.
Ive got one last triode stage in the preamp to tune. Painstaking but worth it. thus far its 3 channels perform wonderfully into the the reference power amp. clean channel has a sweet chime to it and starts to cross over into a nice bluesy crunch with a good crank on the gain knob. Lead channel is particularly fun, drop the gain and its clarity comes fairly close to clean. Regulating the input signal at the guitar allows a wide range of driven tones from near pristine to burn your face off without any need for a stomp box. but if you must add a heavy metal peddle it may be added into the external loop.

the bottom line is this .... I didn't waste the day bickering over two proven designs pointing out their exceptions. For that, I am over half way through building one awesome piece of hard rocki'n bliss.
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But you did take the time to write all that just to say you dont really care about what anyone else has to say.

There is some irony in there somewhere.
 
Needs and wants change. You do not "need" an ambidextrous safety. You do not need better sights. You do not need polymer frames and safety triggers. Someone tells you you do. Something comes along and an "expert" says it's much better. Have to have it.

I always get amused by these threads. I have quite a few 1911's, including an early '30's Commercial model and a WW2 Remington. (EDC a Kimber Tactical Ultra CDP). I can draw that little guy, and out to about 30 feet, put all 9 rounds in center mass in about 4 seconds. I'm 53 and can barely stand up, due to several strokes and a couple of bad knee replacements. My Gold Cup has in excess of 150,000 rounds through it, and an "expert" advised me to change out the mainspring. A new wolf spring later, I put the old Colt spring into a RIA MilSpec I bought last year, and have run 4,000 rounds through it last year. We'll see.

Are there better designs out there? Yep! You could buy a HiPower. Is the GLOCK better? In my opinion, no. It along with most of the wonder nines and their offspring were results of dumbing down training programs. Did you ever hear or see a GLOCK before they started giving them away to law enforcement? Maybe in a book. I wonder if in 100 years we'll hear about heirloom glocks?

To paraphrase John Wayne, you just might get that fancy new-fangled gun out of it's fancy new-fangled holster before some old fashioned gent with a 1911 blows a bunch of holes in you.
 
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JCIN said:
But you did take the time to write all that just to say you dont really care about what anyone else has to say.

There is some irony in there somewhere.
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nah .. I took the time to illustrate what could be done instead.
its not that I don't care. Far from it. each gun, no matter how good, has an Achilles heel in one form or another. We can point out what those weaknesses are, but theres nothing we can say that makes them go away.
Its not hard to find yourself camping out on a thread like this when we could do something far more productive.
 
jlanecole said:
I think this guy did just what he set out to do; generate controversy, and get a ton of people to watch his video for exposure to his website and DVD's....
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That's about it. He's hoping to stir things up and make some money in the process.

arjay said:
Out of all my guns,I always reach for a 1911 to carry unless I need a 44 magnum and I've owned and played with all sorts of guns for 40 years...
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My sentiments - and experience - exactly. And I don't really care who thinks what about which. If you know your guns and if you know what you can or can't do with them, the opinions of others are... just that. :)
 
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