MAGPUL

[cajnchooter22]

i just purchased the standard 15-22 with 25rnd clip. i am wanting to add the magpul floding sights but i am not sure which ones to buy, cheaper than dirt is where i am looking. also on this gun is it picatiny or weaver rails. will anything that fits a AR fit the M&P 15-22?

any help is appreciated.

 

[SimpleWeaponSolutions]

Take a look at Magpul's website here. Make sure you buy from a reputable seller, such as CTD. There are a lot of knockoffs out there.

The 15-22 has picatinny rails.

Majority of products that fit the AR15 pattern rifle will fit on the 15-22. Just about anything that mounts via picatinny rail will fit. Most aftermarket triggers will work too. If in doubt just do a quick search here on the forum to see if it will fit. I would also look at the 15-22 picture thread to see what others are using.

 

[Kayback]

What SWS said. Also, most accessories that work on a Weaver rail will work on a Picatinny rail as well.

I disgree with him on the Magpull stuff. This is a .22. It isn't going to endure IED's in Afghanistan. I'm happy putting Airsoft knock offs, or even Magpul PTS stuff on it. The stock I have is an airsoft one, the pistol grip is an airsoft one, the AFG, VFG and rail covers are airsoft ones, and it runs like a dream. The sights I'm running are airsoft sights, both the electro optical and the iron sights.

Buying genuine Magpul stuff will add up quickly. You aren't replacing any of the bits that contain the blast or such with toy level pieces. The functionality will not be infringed.

KBK

 

[CrazyFingers]

The Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 uses magazines, not "clips", and has a MIL-STD-1913 rail system which can use most accessories that are designed for that rail.

I disgree with him on the Magpull stuff. This is a .22.
Buying genuine Magpul stuff will add up quickly.

That's one way to look at things. Another is that you could easily be shooting this rifle 20 years from now. In 2032, are you going to pull your trusty 15-22 from your gunsafe, look at the genuine Magpul Back-Up Sights, and think:

"Man, I wish I'd saved $50 twenty years ago and bought the cheap Chinese Airsoft sights instead of these genuine Magpul sights."

 

[mn_doggie]

I have both the real Magpul sights (which cost between $70 to $100 depending upon where you get them) and the knock off Chinese "PTS" version which you can buy for $10-30 for a set.

(BTW Magpul doesn't currently sell a cheaper PTS version. Go to the official Magpul PTS sight in the far east and they link you to the regular priced product.)

There is absolutely no comparison. You get what you pay for.

My cheap set in in a junk box in the basement cuz they don't work well, ie they don't hold zero, the rear peep won't stay up with the recoil of a .22, the front sight is too short (a common problem) so it has to be backed out pretty high, etc.

 

[Beuford T. Rimfire]

I've never had a problem with airsoft grade parts on my 15-22. But I'm not above tinkering with something if I think I can improve it a little. The adage that "you get what you pay for" is sometimes true. But often just a few minutes spent with some sandpaper or file to make a part fit just right, or with some pliers to tinker with a spring on cheap flip-up sights can make all the difference.

Best gun-related part I ever bought was a Dremel. It's paid for itself ten times over.

 

[Kayback]

You get what you pay for. Sometimes you also buy overkill.

Will my cheap plastic Magpul knockoffs be working in 20 years time? I honestly don't know. But looking at all the polymer rifle furniture around now I doubt any of us, even those with real Magpul stuff, will have the same furniture on their rifles in 20 years.

Buying airsoft parts I can literally have 3 different setups for my rifle for the cost of one "real" part.

My rifle gets shot at the range on weekends, in competitions. If I crack a stock or the sight stops working I will not die. I may lose some time or some points, but I'll be able to do it again next weekend.

"Just as good as" generally isn't, but if you don't NEED the quality of name brand parts then I don't see the point in paying for them.

All of that being said, it's your money, if you want to buy quality parts for it, go for it.

KBK

 

[Vagrant]

+1 to all that has been said about the knock off Magpul sights. I ordered a set when I first got my rifle. The first problem was the front sight post was too short. I had to replace the cheap plastic post with the post that came with my rifle's original sights. Another problem was that the rear sight apertures did not stay together when I unfolded the sights. And finally, my brother managed to break my rear sight right off my rail. He didn't know how to deploy the sights and was trying to force the sight up by hand. This could've been due to the cheap plastic or from over torquing the screws.

My friend gave me his pair of genuine sights and the quality is 100x better. There was absolutely no comparison between the real thing and the knock offs. But for what it's worth, my knock offs worked as intended (minus the small problems). They held zero and worked fine as back up sights for the red dot sight I had mounted. I don't know if I could justify paying $80 for the real things for a .22 when I wouldn't even be using them 95% of the time.

 

[BP_Z28]

I bought real magpul bus for my .22. Simply because I can add them on to other AR-15 if I chose to. Im an interchangeable guy and like to share my items.

Bit the bullet and just saved up for the real deal.

 

[Maddmax]

Remember too. You won't get your money back or a good trade in value if it's loaded with "toy" parts. You don't have to go whole hog on it,but build it to last,one day your life could depend on it.

 

[yugowego]

Buy Once, Cry Once!... Words of Wisdom to live by.

 

[Gopher Slayer]

It's like getting tools from Harbor Freight...

-If you use them more than occasionally, you will see why others buy the real thing.

-Nothing is quality, but some things are too simple to screw up.



I don't buy the fake stuff. Firearms shooting and collecting is my main hobby. I'll be cheap with a different one.

 

[Kayback]

I still only agree to a point.

Buy once, cry once, buy quality the first time around and all that, then people still suggest UTG and NCStar. :roll:

Honestly though, I don't feel bad skimping on non ballistic parts for the 15-22. It is like saying your RC plane needs a General Electric engine in it because the real one does.

If I'm going into combat I'll use the real deal death defying hard as nails gear. If I'm putting it on a rifle like the 15-22, I'd prefer it if the parts broke before the rifle does.

I don't see the point in dropping enough money on the parts to buy another 15-22. Like I said, I shoot competition with my 15-22 and it works quite well with the budget parts. It is a budget gun. I bought it to be cheap and to allow me to shoots lots of cheap ammo through it.

If I spend the price difference on parts I'm more or less wasting my time or lying to myself......

KBK

 

[Ghost_Soldier]

I still only agree to a point.

Buy once, cry once, buy quality the first time around and all that, then people still suggest UTG and NCStar. :roll:
KBK

I can't speak for NCStar but Leapers-UTG makes good quality equipment for a decent price, a lot better quality than some chinese knock off of magpul.

 

[yugowego]

The Chinese get enough of our money... Buy American Made!

 

[Beuford T. Rimfire]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayback
I still only agree to a point.

Buy once, cry once, buy quality the first time around and all that, then people still suggest UTG and NCStar. :roll:
KBK

I can't speak for NCStar but Leapers-UTG makes good quality equipment for a decent price, a lot better quality than some chinese knock off of magpul.

I think what Kayback is trying to point out is that there are people out there (and on this forum) that will shun those that buy cheap parts for their rifle and then themselves go and buy the UTG version of a LaRue scope mount. If you are not seeing the duplicity that he's implying, I'm not sure it can be described any clearer. Face it, you KNOW these people exist.

 

[NDZ Performance]

We sell the Magpul Sights and they are real We are an Authroized Magpul Dealer I have the Mbus sights on my 15/22 and I like them.

 

[Ghost_Soldier]

I think what Kayback is trying to point out is that there are people out there (and on this forum) that will shun those that buy cheap parts for their rifle and then themselves go and buy the UTG version of a LaRue scope mount. If you are not seeing the duplicity that he's implying, I'm not sure it can be described any clearer. Face it, you KNOW these people exist.

No need to be a **** about it. There's a difference in buying a cheaper part that is still good quality and buying a cheaper part that is just a ***. Just because something cost more money doesn't mean it's better. Just like Troy sights are almost twice as much as Magpul sights and the Magpul are tougher than the $200 Troy sights. I see no need for a LaRue mount on a 15-22 when I'm sure a Leapers-UTG mount would hold up just fine.

 

[Beuford T. Rimfire]

Ghost Soldier, in quoting your post I was not singling you out personally for choosing a UTG mount. Sorry if I offended you.

 

[Maddmax]

Dad always said it doesn't cost that much to go first class on some things. It's a good AR15-22 plinker in 22LR,so how nuts can you go beyond useful ??? I like stock,just fine as it is. A good set of reliable iron sights (those are your last resort if a scope breaks) and will help you shoot better,won't break off in the case or (heaven forbid),you drop your AR in the dirt,on the concrete or it just takes a tumble. A scope is nice,but no need for a high dollar one on a "short range" 22lr. Light ??? Who needs one. That's the last weapon I'd grab for what goes bump in the night. Factory stock feels good enough to me. Same for the stock handgrip. If I'd do much of anything,I'd work on freefloating the barrel and making it shoot better.

When I do any up grades on my AR15's,if some of the hand me downs fit and work,so be it. I don't go too nuts on those either. I kind of giggle when I see one that has 3 times the value of the rifle in do-dads and and useless add on's. But hay,each to their own. ..It's a hobby and easy to get lost in and all some people have to do. Beats turning beer into salt water,waisting money on drugs...