Extremely Disappointed with my new E Series Pistol

I purchased a S&W 1911SC Bi-tone about two months ago and it is without a doubt one of my most favorite guns. When the slide is locked does it have some minor scratches under the slide stop yes. When the safety is engaged is there some minor scratching on the slide yes. Did I buy this gun to sit around and admire it no. I bought it to shoot it. Dose it shoot as good as if not better than any other 1911 I have owned yes. So my advice to those of you worried about some minor scratches, it to shoot the damn gun and enjoy it for the purpose it was built. Just my two cents.
 
This gun has been perfect in every aspect, and NO it's not leaving to go anywhere. :D

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How would you keep a slide-stop from rubbing the frame on any 1911. I have three smith 1911's and all are great guns.
 
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I also have the two tone bobtail E series and think it is the most beautiful gun I have ever seen. It also shoots very well and have had no problems or scratches with it yet. I do agree that it should not have scratches out of the box and I would be very unhappy if mine did but I bought it to use it and am a realist. It eventually will get scratched or dinged at some point, I just hope it happens years from now and not tomorrow.
 
Paints-n-cows said:
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Do you mean the scratches look like this? I also just picked up my E-series last night from my gun dealer and this is what I found. The date code on the fired round is 5/24/12

I realize that it may just be a tool but when I spend that kind of cash on a weapon, I expect it to well finished and taken care of BEFORE it gets to me.

It is not from careless handling since the weapon had never had its slide pulled back and the release locked in place before it reached me. That is the only way that the marks are obvious.

You can bet that I am going to be on the phone to S&W and let them deal with this.

Also, mine has no name magazines with it....one 7-round that has no markings on it and an 8-round that at least has 45 ACP on its side but has a cheap floorplate/bumper on its bottom made out of plastic.
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The mags sound more like a dealer issue then a Smith and Wesson issue. I know when I got my Ar the dealer put a brand new magpul mag in the box instead of the factory mag. I have read and heard that's not a completely uncommon practice.
 
HotRoderX said:
The mags sound more like a dealer issue then a Smith and Wesson issue. I know when I got my Ar the dealer put a brand new magpul mag in the box instead of the factory mag. I have read and heard that's not a completely uncommon practice.
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Mine also came with one 7 round magazine with no name on it and one 8 round magazine with 45 on it and I can assure you that my dealer did not change the magazines. These are the ones that came from the factory and, frankly, I see nothing wrong with them. It never ceases to amaze me how much people like to complain on these internet forums but by the same token its a free country ( or at least it use to be ) and you can say what ever you want.
 
crofoot629 said:
It should not come “pre-scratched” from the factory.

I’d like to know more about the E Series.

1) Any internal drop safety? Or are they “Series 70” type guns?

2) Are the frames and slides forged?

3) Are there any MIM parts?

4) Does it have a conventional 1911 extractor?

Emory
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1) Series 70 type action with titanium firing pin and supposedly stiffer firing pin spring. It passes the drop testing.

2) Forged.

3) Yes, but I am not sure which parts.

4) No. Large S&W external, which does not worry me as S&W learned these extractors decades ago.
 
Be sure to post what smith and wesson have to say paints-cows. Hope its all works out for you. I've had to use them twice in the past twenty years with the last being about three years. Great service both times.
 
I would want a new one, too

If I ordered and paid for a NEW S&W of any model I wouldn't expect any part to be scratched. S&W should replace it, then sell the original gun as a scratch and dent. You get a new gun, Somebody gets a slight blem at a good price and S&W doesn't lose money on the deal.
 
I was wondering how you keep a slide-stop from rubbing the frame on a 1911?
 
I purchased mine used a couple of months ago. It has scratches in a couple of places. If I had bought it new I would have been upset but mine has other issues such as fail to chamber and had to replace the factory recoil spring with a Wolff 18 lb to solve the issue. Still have an issue with it ejecting brass at my forehead. Overall a great gun and very accurate.
 
rvasse said:
I purchased mine used a couple of months ago. It has scratches in a couple of places. If I had bought it new I would have been upset but mine has other issues such as fail to chamber and had to replace the factory recoil spring with a Wolff 18 lb to solve the issue. Still have an issue with it ejecting brass at my forehead. Overall a great gun and very accurate.
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Ejecting the occasional brass at your forehead was it's unfortunate bug. Mine did the same thing...back to Smith...quick turn around and no more brass at my head. Give it up for a couple of weeks and send it back for the extractor adjustment. Kind of a pain but for me it needed to be addressed.
 
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Tenn2 said:
I have been looking at the 1911sc as I really like the look of the dual tone. I guess after reading all this I will probably look to the Ruger as it has gotten good reviews.
Russ
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Don't let this thread be the determining factor on your 1911 decision. Smith makes a fine 1911...I have two and would buy again. My son-in-law has the Ruger SR1911 and likes it (he is a Ruger guy) but the only reason he has a 1911 is the fact that the fell in love with my Smith after shooting it a couple of times.

The Smith and the Ruger 1911's are both fine, American made guns and I'm sure you would be happy with either one. Not sure Ruger makes a commander size, though.
 
ladder13 said:
This gun has been perfect in every aspect, and NO it's not leaving to go anywhere. :D

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I never get it when people post photos of their obviously new or little shot pistols and claim they work great.

I see it a lot with Kimbers too.

I’ve shot action pistol games for years and worked as a Police Officer.
If pistols are shot say 10,000 rounds and holstered and reholstered they show honest wear.

This gun does not. I think it runs fine sitting in the gun safe.

I gave up on Colt and Springfield in 1996 and bought two Wilson Combats.
I think you have to spend the big money if you want a durable 1911.

Your S&W should be a dream gun with light frame and bobtail. Instead it’s a ****. That aint right.

Emory
 
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"I never get it when people post photos of their obviously new or little shot pistols and claim they work great.
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I never get it when someone posts thinking they know something about someone else when it's obvious they can't...:rolleyes:
 
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one eye joe said:
I agree. He paid full freight for the pistol, NIB. He did NOT buy it at a "scratch and dent" sale. To imply that he is overreacting, or that he should settle for that weapon is ludicrous. "Honest wear" is wear that is incurred on a weapon through use BY IT'S OWNER. We are not talking about a pair of "distressed" Levis here. Sending it back was the right thing to do.......
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Absolutely!!! To say a customer, who purchased this NIB gun in good faith, is "over-reacting", is ridiculous:mad:
 
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