Response from Tim Ryan NE OH congressman regarding my opposition to AWB

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I got this response from Rep. Tim Ryan from NE Ohio (D) This does not sound good, looks like he will be in lock step with the anti gunners.

Thank you for contacting me regarding your views about the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. Like all Americans, I was shocked and saddened when I heard about the deaths of 20 first graders and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary. As we reflect after this tragedy many people, including myself, are asking the important question of how do we prevent this event from happening again.

I believe we need not only a national conversation regarding responsible gun laws, but actual policies that address all of the elements that led to this tragedy, including gun safety and the lack of mental health investments.

As a co-chair of the Congressional Addiction, Treatment and Recovery Caucus I understand how imperative it is to educate and raise awareness about mental health treatment. During my time in public office, I have consistently supported legislation to support mental health programs with the appropriate funding to make sure that all people suffering from these illnesses get the help they need.

As Congress begins to consider the appropriations bills for the 2014 Fiscal Year, I will continue to push to fund both the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration and the Substance Abuse Prevention Treatment block grant at increased funding levels.

I was proud to vote for both the Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act and the Affordable Care Act, which took the necessary steps to ensure the same rules for coverage limits, co-payments, and out-of-network coverage to both mental health services and other health care services. I have recently joined my Congressional Colleagues in urging the Obama Administration to fully implement these regulations.

As we move ahead, I look forward to a healthy debate in Congress on sensible gun reforms that can keep dangerous weapons out of the hand criminals and the mental ill. In this regard, everything should be on the table for discussion, including background checks, high-capacity magazines, armor-piercing bullets, assault weapons, etc. Rest assured I will keep your views in mind as Congress continues to work on these important issues. Thank you again for your correspondence.

Sincerely,





Tim Ryan
Member of Congress
 
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Yet again, another politician says so little, by using so many words. Though I do find this new sudden use of the word "gun safety" in place of words like "gun control" to be amusing, albeit saddening. The intent is obviously a euphemism, indeed.
 
The media won't address the FACT that anti-freedom votes will have consequences for politicians who forget what happened last time a AWB was fashionable.

Maybe that's a good thing.

They all can remember after the midterms.

GF
 
My response for Illinois:

January 7, 2013

Dear Mr. Krawc



Thank you for contacting me about an amendment to the Cybersecurity Act of 2012 (S. 3414) to prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices.



On July 25, 2012, Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey introduced this amendment. A large capacity ammunition feeding device is defined as any magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has the capacity to include 10 rounds of ammunition, excluding .22 caliber rim fire ammunition. The amendment also would require any capacity feeding device manufactured after the date of the enactment to be identified by a serial number indicating when it was manufactured.



Americans are entitled to own and use guns in a responsible manner. Strong penalties for violent crimes involving firearms should be part of an effort to reduce gun violence. Throughout my time in Congress, I have supported a variety of strong crime control initiatives and efforts to combat the illegal possession and use of firearms.



Although, we may disagree on this issue, I appreciate having your views and hope that you will not hesitate to contact me in the future on matters of importance to you.



Thank you again for your message. Please feel free to keep in touch.



Sincerely,



Richard J. Durbin

United States Senator



RJD/jv
 
Yet again, another politician says so little, by using so many words. Though I do find this new sudden use of the word "gun safety" in place of words like "gun control" to be amusing, albeit saddening. The intent is obviously a euphemism, indeed.
They are trained in what buzzwords not to use. Gun safety to a gun person means one thing to a politician it means " ban" Don be fooled!!!
 
At least they responded. Our gutless Senators (1 R & 1 D) in NC have failed to respond to any of my correspondence over a 2 week period. I did get a reply from my Representative in support of the 2nd but I returned pressing him on semi-auto and capacity and have not heard anything more.
 
no... you can buy green tip SS109 all day before the scare...

Green Tip are NOT armor piercing rounds, and Yes, AP is illegal. Feel free to see if they are on the ATF's armor piercing list for yourself, if you disagree.
 
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Tim Ryan (D) OH is rated A- by the NRA in the November American Riflemen, Sherrod Brown is rated F.
 
My response for Illinois:

January 7, 2013

Dear Mr. Krawc



Thank you for contacting me about an amendment to the Cybersecurity Act of 2012 (S. 3414) to prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices.



On July 25, 2012, Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey introduced this amendment. A large capacity ammunition feeding device is defined as any magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has the capacity to include 10 rounds of ammunition, excluding .22 caliber rim fire ammunition. The amendment also would require any capacity feeding device manufactured after the date of the enactment to be identified by a serial number indicating when it was manufactured.



Americans are entitled to own and use guns in a responsible manner. Strong penalties for violent crimes involving firearms should be part of an effort to reduce gun violence. Throughout my time in Congress, I have supported a variety of strong crime control initiatives and efforts to combat the illegal possession and use of firearms.



Although, we may disagree on this issue, I appreciate having your views and hope that you will not hesitate to contact me in the future on matters of importance to you.



Thank you again for your message. Please feel free to keep in touch.



Sincerely,



Richard J. Durbin

United States Senator



RJD/jv

For those who have forgotten the kind of ideas Dick Durbin supports for "gun control":

1. No one should be allowed to purchase more than two firearms a month.

2. Certain classes of weapons that are strictly military and have no useful purpose in sport, hunting or self-defense should not be legally sold.

3. Magazine clips with more than 10 rounds should be prohibited from civilian use.

Of course, he also gets re-elected by what, 70%? Astounding. :confused:
 
This to me makes no since what so ever

Americans are entitled to own and use guns in a responsible manner. Strong penalties for violent crimes involving firearms should be part of an effort to reduce gun violence. Throughout my time in Congress, I have supported a variety of strong crime control initiatives and efforts to combat the illegal possession and use of firearms.

Its almost like they aren't reading are seeing what we see.

The movie theater shooting the gun men will most likely plea insanity and will live the rest of his life in a asylum or in Jail. Thats some really harsh penalties there having a roof over your head food in your stomach and never having to worry about heath care. The biggest thing is from what I have heard about the case. The shrink at the school knew he was a high risk individual but did nothing.

The answer according to MR congress man is to enact more laws that still will not fix a thing because someone drops the ball and there no penalty for that. Why arn't the people who seen this strange behavior and not reporting it held accountable?

Then we move over to the school shootings in Columbine they commit suicide, Virginia Tech School shooting the guy suicides, and the most recent shooting the guy once more suicides. Why does a congressmen think they even remotely care what the penalties for there actions are? They kill them self's when there finished so yeap stricter laws are going to do jack.

What congress needs to do is understand this is a extremely rare situation. The best way to handle this situation is to beef up mental health and place guards in schools. That's the way you fix the issue. There needs to be some kinda accountability for not reporting disturbing behavior.

As a voter the politics lately are very frustrating and confusing. Instead of tackling real issues there ignoring them. Then cover them up. I really think this entire gun debate thing is to get peoples eyes off of things like

Benghazi
The Current Recession
Debt ceiling etc

They said they wanted to reform health care that make Obama care look bad.
 
I don't see a problem with his letter. 95% of it was referring to mental health issues, which is the REAL issue. Every one of these mass shooters have been mentally ill with long histories of bizarre behavior.

We all lament at the thousands of gun laws already on the books. I think this is the time for the NRA to play "Let's Make a Deal". Tighten up some of the logical ones and get rid of many of the useless ones. I've been slammed for this before, but this is a forum and where we speak out minds. There are 32 states that DON'T put the names of residents who have been adjudicated mentally ill in the database that is checked when you buy a gun. That needs to stop TODAY. The Virginia Tech, Arizona, and Aurora shooters ALL passed their background check and legally bought their guns. The Newtown shooter walked away from Dick's becuase he didn't WANT to wait, but he would have passed his check if he stuck it out. And I'm sorry, but private sales need to be banned. It is too easy for somebody who failed a background check or knows they WILL fail one to get one in a private sale, with NO risk to the seller. A way around that would be to institute a NATIONAL firearms permit so the seller sees the buyer has been vetted. Don't want to report the sale to the government? OK. Keep a private record which you can provide if the gun is ever used in a crime.

Like it or not, this latest shooting changed the game. Virginia Tech had more casualties, and Arizona had a member of Congress get shot, but they didn't evoke the same outrage as 20 6 year olds hiding in closets and under desks while being cut down. Change is coming, and the NRA, who IS our greatest ally, needs to understand that the whole "From My Cold Dead Hands" mantra isn't gonna cut it anymore.
 
Tim Ryan's FORM LETTER RESPONSE (the same one) was hanging on the board at my gun club last night.

Relevant points were underlined, AND WILL BE REMEMBERED.
 
I don't see a problem with his letter. 95% of it was referring to mental health issues, which is the REAL issue. Every one of these mass shooters have been mentally ill with long histories of bizarre behavior.

We all lament at the thousands of gun laws already on the books. I think this is the time for the NRA to play "Let's Make a Deal". Tighten up some of the logical ones and get rid of many of the useless ones. I've been slammed for this before, but this is a forum and where we speak out minds. There are 32 states that DON'T put the names of residents who have been adjudicated mentally ill in the database that is checked when you buy a gun. That needs to stop TODAY. The Virginia Tech, Arizona, and Aurora shooters ALL passed their background check and legally bought their guns. The Newtown shooter walked away from Dick's becuase he didn't WANT to wait, but he would have passed his check if he stuck it out. And I'm sorry, but private sales need to be banned. It is too easy for somebody who failed a background check or knows they WILL fail one to get one in a private sale, with NO risk to the seller. A way around that would be to institute a NATIONAL firearms permit so the seller sees the buyer has been vetted. Don't want to report the sale to the government? OK. Keep a private record which you can provide if the gun is ever used in a crime.

Like it or not, this latest shooting changed the game. Virginia Tech had more casualties, and Arizona had a member of Congress get shot, but they didn't evoke the same outrage as 20 6 year olds hiding in closets and under desks while being cut down. Change is coming, and the NRA, who IS our greatest ally, needs to understand that the whole "From My Cold Dead Hands" mantra isn't gonna cut it anymore.

1.No registration of guns or gun owners, period. What don't you get about what happens next based on History? Maybe we can go ahead and register Jews at the same time? What do you think? That way we can bypass the next step of forced turn in of the registered guns.

2. I can private sale a car to a drunk, they kill 1600 times more people per year, I don't see any suggestions for banning private car sales. What you are either unaware of or purposely ignoring is the option of requiring a private seller keep a copy of the buyer's purchase permit and license to sell it. That way no one without a permit can buy one. Problem solved, permits should be issued by local L.E.

3. I would also be fine with a private sale having to go through an FFL, which would get a background check, as long as it's pass/ fail and no records are passed along to the Government if the person passes. That would address the check issue.

I do agree we need to make sure the loonies are identified. However, there also needs to be an option once they are declared fit, for them to be able to get a gun. I'm thinking of PTSD and soldiers here, mainly.
 
StatesRightist,

I don't think the AGENDA, is for a TWO-WAY STREET, soldiers or not.

THINK,
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CONVICTION AND FIREARMS.

There GONE FOREVER!
 
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