on ants and grasshoppers...

no id down size the herd ,yes you will lose money doing it but youll lose money buying hay that must be shipped from a non droughted area anyway. the profit margin on beef is pretty miserable at the best of times anyway.
this is a pretty shaky analogy . ranching is a business and a responsibility. recreational or sport shooting is just a hobby and like i said i dont know of one rancher that carries a two year supply of feed. do you ?[/QUOTE]


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I don't sell surplus feed or extra stores of my ammo.

Always got plenty of feed & plenty of ammo....Years worth.

I'm good on both counts.......It comes from life long experience and thaking the long view. ;):D
 
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I don't sell surplus feed or extra stores of my ammo.

Always got plenty of feed & plenty of ammo....Years worth.

I'm good on both counts.......It comes from life long experience and thaking the long view. ;):D
ok i am corrected ,now i know one rancher that keeps feed for years.
i have always been under the impression that feed does not get better with age. if you have years worth of feed you must stock rotate feed so that you are always putting out the oldest feed?
please understand im asking because i respect your knowledge im not attempting to prolong a hackneyed arguement.haha
are you refering to hay or grain or both?
respectfully-mike reynolds
reply by pm if youd rather
 
Mike,

We store in out of the weather and yes, we do feed the oldest first

working our way towards the lastest harvest.

It's a way of doing things that has been handed down over the generations.

We don't silo as much grain as we used too, but still hold back a good bit.

As for ammo, I got stores of it from the last century I haven't crack'd open as of yet.

It's not that I'm that smart...I just try to be watchful, I guess. ;):D


Dave


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One thing I won't do is complain. The "situation" of 2008-09 didn't affect me because I wasn't doing much shooting back then, so I didn't have a "lesson to learn from the last time". I am learning the lesson of 2013.

I have been buying what ammo I can find & afford, and so far I have a few hundred rounds of 9MM & still have a decent supply of 22 Magnum and an ok amount of .22LR. A lot of stuff you can't even find here. I have stumbled across decent stocks of calibers I don't need, but .22LR and .357 Magnum are very scarce.

Again, one thing I won't do is complain that I don't have ammo.
Another thing I won't do is pay obscene amounts of money for ammo just to say I have it. I found out that one LGS has .22LR for $10 per 100. The math works out to $50 for a brick - he can keep it. A box of Federal 550 was going for around $22 before this madness. I refuse to pay more than double. I'll just use what I have sparingly until I find some.

I have learned the lesson of 2013, and I will make attempts to stock up in the future, but in the mean time, lets all quit scrapping and pointing fingers, etc. Some of us really couldn't help it.
 
Mike,

We store in out of the weather and yes, we do feed the oldest first

working our way towards the lastest harvest.

It's a way of doing things that has been handed down over the generations.

We don't silo as much grain as we used too, but still hold back a good bit.

As for ammo, I got stores of it from the last century I haven't crack'd open as of yet.

It's not that I'm that smart...I just try to be watchful, I guess. ;):D


Dave
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Some good wisdom there.

I think a lot of us ol' mossbacks think that way simply because that's the way we were raised. You had to be self-reliant, help your neighbor, and stick together, because when push came to shove, that was the only way you were going to make it.

We're just experiencing a little "bump in the road" right now. No reason to start calling names or pointing fingers. But, hindsight being 20/20, I think a lot of folks will realize that in the future, it might not hurt to buy an extra box of ammo here and there when you have a little extra change in your pockets.

As we're finding out now, you never know when the proverbial bucket just might get kicked out from under you.
 
I don't have a ton of money to purchase ammo an components. I simply adjusted my shooting habits in times of "bounty". If I could afford 2 boxes of ammo I'd bring and shoot only 1 and put the other in the safe. Same for components since I simply cant buy 10k+ of primers at a time. So I sacrificed shooting time to build my surplus, so now I can sit comfortably and still shoot and not rush into the panic or camp out at Walmart.
 
What can I say but

for a month or so i have been reading some posts that kind of bug me a little i wont reply directly because i dont want to appear as a troll.
"any veteran shooter who got caught 'with his pants down' during this hickup in ammo supply needs to rethink his hobby"
what a crock of stinking rhetoric...kinda sick of hearing this hypocritical self congratulating line of b.s.
so if you run out of ammo you probably shouldnt own a gun?
or how about the grasshopper/ant analogy ?
if you do not have a year supply of ammunition ,you are somehow immoral?please.
let me ask you this: doesnt your arm get sore from patting your own back?
hope one of you preppers woke up this am with no cream for your coffee.
sorry, for the rant -i had to get it off my chest.
ps. i usually have about 1000 rnds on hand ,but with regular practice that is used up in 2-4 weeks . i will NEVER shoot ALL of my ammo ill always have some for sd/hd.
im no longer in danger of running out of practice ammo, i just laid in 1 -2 months supply, it was close though.:rolleyes:
-mike reynolds

We all have our priorities, and each of us makes his or her decisions. Many people prepare for --say large snowfall, and stock up necessary foodstuffs, others do not and expect someone to bail them out, so I would not be hard on those who stocked up for something that was as forseeable as a bad storm.:eek:
 
Pretty good rant about ammo. I've gone thru some hard times, and some good. I always make sure I have ammo available for everything.
Maybe only enough for a carry load, but it's there when I want it.
I read a comment on an empty handgun is just a poorly designed
club. I've got snap-caps for the real lean times.
JMHO, TACC1.
 
Hell,
I've got ammo from the 1930s....What's that make me?
OLD!! Smarter than others but........old! Actually your probably 21 and bought it at a gunshow...right?

Just kidding.

Seriously. If you did not see the handwriting on the wall when Bill Clinton was elected the first time you are behind the power curve.

I feel for those who do not have enough "jingle" to hoard. But start planning now. Buy more ammunition and components than guns. Or whatever it takes. It might be worth it to float a loan or charge a credit card.

The gun control issue is not going to dissappear...ever.
 
About 3 weeks ago, I took the grandson, and the '06 Winnie out with 8 boxes of .22's that had price stickers on them of $.69 per box (50). When do you think those were bought? I'm thinking 60's.

Of course, I still write in cursive with a fountain pen ;)
 
Main thing is.. Don't get excited!

I'll just about bet, by fall I'll be able to buy .22 cal at a good price.
When all the "sky is falling" people get enough... the prices will drop.
 
Seriously. If you did not see the handwriting on the wall when Bill Clinton was elected the first time you are behind the power curve.
Thank you. I didn't want to be the only one to say that THAT was when I realized that I needed to plan in order to have wide mags and ammo when I wanted them. It does sometimes take a little while to catch up.
 
I decided years ago to stockpile a reserve of ammo for each caliber I own. When I go shooting I buy additional ammo, never touching my stash .
Having the same problem as everyone in getting ammo at a good price, so I just shoot a little less. It works for me.
 
Hell,
I've got ammo from the 1930s....What's that make me?
OLD!! Smarter than others but........old! Actually your probably 21 and bought it at a gunshow...right?

Just kidding.

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Yup,

I'm old ;)

Use the same ol Winchester 71 with the same ol .348, 250gr Silvertips that's the same age. :D

Remember when, if you had one of them new .357 magnum....It was a pre war revolver. ;)

Does anyone know how long factory primed pistol brass will keep?
Got a wheelbar load from the last century.

I remember when we were buying high-speed .22LRs at bout 4 dollars a carton.

Yup! I'm old!



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