Are people not taught anymore?

J Rich

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How to handle a knife that is.

It sounds dumb maybe that some one would have to be taught how to handle a knife. But, I really dislike having my hand sliced open by some moron that that snatches it out of my hand. How about when your standing next to someone that is cutting something in your direction without warning you? Or, when someone passes a knife to you blade first?


Are people just not taught these things now a days? I was taught long ago as a young boy when I was given my first pocket knife.

How about you?
 
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How about how not to slice off an appendage and call 911 when twirling one of those Cuban sandwich knives?

Oh, I mean Balisongs. ;):D:p

All joking aside, I agree.

The worst one was, when I was a kid, my uncle on my mother's side asked to see my knife, and he openned it and cleaned his fingernails with it.

I never liked him after that. I actually still have the knife today, but I can't ever bring myself to use it. My father said that was a lesson in never handing it over.

The other thing is, teaching today's women-folk of the ecstacy of using and treating cast iron cookware correctly. ;)
That's another thread though....
 
Had my cub scout knife taken away from me by my Dad when I was seven.Lost it for a month because I did something with it I was warned against.I don't even remember what I did but I do remember being without it and I do remember I learned my lesson.Never did anything to lose it again,but then I had a Father who cared and instilled discipline.I don't think that combination is too common anymore.Plus the fact it's never junior's fault.
 
Of course they aren't taught to handle knives. Knives are evil weapons. They make airliners crash into skyscrapers. You can't carry one anywhere, especially school. You can be expelled forever, and branded a terrorist. I was not allowed to carry my 2 1/4" Swiss Army Knife into a concert once. I was told to go out and get rid of it. I threw it in the hedge, luckily it was there when I got out.
 
I think I was about 6 or so when I got my first pocket knife. My grandfather gave me a little better one when I was about 8 or 9. I learned how to use one because when I caught fish I was told, "You catch it, you clean it." So for that whole summer when the weather was good my mother would drop me off on the way to work at my grandparents and I would spend the whole day fishing, catching bullheads. I would catch them and before she picked me up they would be cleaned and all ready to go. We didn't have much money then and I can still remember during the winter eating pan fried bullhead and home made french fries. That was a meal we had two or three times a week at least. I learned the value of a good knife and I have more now than I can think of.
What most people don't realize is that you don't need a USMC Kabar to gut a deer, or a huge buck knife to clean fish. I have gotten by most of the time with my little Uncle Henry or something much like it. Keep them clean, keep them sharp and use some common sense. Unfortunately common sense is getting about as common as a Model T Ford on the moon these days.
 
To answer your question, no, almost invariably they aren't,

When I was a kid (that huge CLICK you hear is young folks switching off another of the old fud's reminiscences) nearly all men and boys and a great many women and girls always carried pocketknives and used them. They were needed regularly for all kinds of essential tasks, since packaging that requires tinsnips, a machete and thermite grenades to open hadn't been invented yet.

Now people who carry cutting tools are a definite minority, with sometimes deadly results. In the last day or two there was yet another story about someone falling on an escalator, getting his clothing caught in the machinery, and being killed. If somebody there had had a good knife, even a small one, he might have been saved.

My sister is a knife person--loves them, uses them, and carries a Spyderco I gave her for self-defense. And though she's easily the most intelligent person I've ever known, I cannot convince her that a sharp knife is safer to use than a dull one.

If someone asks if I have a knife, my answer is always, "That depends on what you want to do with one."
 
If someone asks if I have a knife, my answer is always, "That depends on what you want to do with one."

Do I have a knife? Yes. Do I have a pry bar, scraper, screwdriver, or metal cutter? No.

Guy I work with (who is missing fingers) has some really dull *** lockblade knife with winchester stamped on it or something he is always showing off with. More than once Ive watched him almost stick it into his hand and he never shies from letting the blade strike metal and concrete.... but "hes a veteran and he knows how to handle a knife"... I just smile and think "Your a tool with out a clue"
 
I wrote a story for a knife magazine when I gave my son his first knife at about age 7, a Camillus Scout knife with a Delrin handle that looked like good fake stag. He's been careful since, and has some nice knives. I gave him a Fallkniven S-1 with optional black blade before he went to Iraq once, but he thought it was too nice to risk there, so took a Camillus-made "K-Bar" instead. I keep trying to convince him to carry a Swiss Army knife, but he relies on a multi-tool instead and a Benchmade lockblade with tanto blade in a belt pouch. You may have seen my post here when he had to use the Benchmade on a big coydog that attacked him.

I gave his sister a little Victorinox Classic with green scales that she likes. She uses mostly the scissors on it.

I agree that most today aren't trained to use a knife safely. And that most housewives use dull blades that can slip. In fact, they mostly use cheap kitchen knives. Victorinox and others make such good kitchen knives at low prices that a little shopping would get them better knives. You don't need Wusthof Trident knives in the kitchen, although I prefer them in the larger sizes that I use, or Henckels equivalents, and I pay the price to get the better knives.

I have a brother who won't carry a knife. He thinks it's something for rednecks, I think, and he likes to think of himself as above that. He works mainly with liberal ivory tower computer people who lack a background in carrying knives. Thinks it's too dramatic, and he's afraid that he'll forget a knife in his pocket when he catches a plane. I should add that neither of my grown children or I remotely resemble rednecks, and we carry knives. My daughter is a teacher and pretty sophisticated and well read. The son is a literal genius; used to belong to Mensa. His favorite music is Pachelbel's Canon in D Minor. He is also a veteran of three combat tours in Iraq, with a Purple Heart and two Oak Leaf clusters to show for it. But he is very at home with that wicked Benchmade folder on his belt, and he knows how to use it... for about any anticipated need.

His wife carries a Camillus Barracuda, as I recall. Sometimes clips it to her jeans. She is also hardly a redneck, being a geneticist who has written a scientific paper so profound that it will probably become an archtype for study in her field. But she can clean her own deer kills with greater skill than probably 90% of male hunters. Comes from doing lab work on animals. BTW, she also plays violin in a city orchestra.

I'm VERY concerned that our schools are indoctrinating kids to abhor and avoid all knives outside the kitchen. I think it's a deliberate effort on the part of those who want a nation of sheep. They've largely succeeded in the UK. I hope and pray that it won't happen here, but it's underway.

We badly need a group like the NRA to support knife ownership and carry. I'm very grateful that Texas Gov. Rick Perry clarified and liberalized our right to carry lockblade folding knives when he signed into law a provision to preclude one-handed openers from being classed as gravity knives.
 
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Some people handle a knife like they do a gun. After all they once saw a movie with Alan Ladd as Jim Bowie, or watched Crocodile Dundee. They are the same people that will hand you a loaded gun, or sweep you with one all the while telling you it's OK because it isn't loaded. They will also demonstrate the proper way to throw a Bowie knife, now, just pay attention. :(
 
When I was in the Boy Scouts in the 1960s you couldn't carry a knife until your got your Totin' Chip after you showed you understood-and practiced-proper knife and axe handling procedures.
 
Do I have a knife? Yes. Do I have a pry bar, scraper, screwdriver, or metal cutter? No.

I try to be nice about it. I always carry two pocketknives (knife collectors and other aficionados tend to call them "slipjoints"--they're knives carried in pockets, pocketknives). One is a Victorinox of the model that used to be the actual issue knife of the Swiss army, the one with the checkered aluminum scales. That one's for the tools, primarily. The other will be a conventional knife, usually a three-blade stockman pattern or a trapper, in carbon steel. If I ask someone what he wants to do with a knife and what he really wants is a screwdriver, I'll supervise as he uses one of the ones on the Vic. If he wants to cut a string or shave a piece of wood, I'll watch even more closely as he uses the stockman. It's sharp and he may be an idiot.

If he wants to cut BX cable or baling wire, then he's sierra oscar lima.
 
When I was in the Boy Scouts in the 1960s you couldn't carry a knife until your got your Totin' Chip after you showed you understood-and practiced-proper knife and axe handling procedures.

They still have it, when you have an infraction of the knife handling rules, one of the corners gets torn (or cut off) if you lose all 4 corners you have to re-earn the card.
 
When I taught Royal Rangers, many moons ago, you had to earn your "Cut and Chop" card. The boys learned knife safety and how to sharpen a camp ax. You would have thought they won a gold medal when they earned their card!
 
My wife and I both have our own set of kitchen knives. Her knives are dull because she cuts vegetables toward her hand my knives are kept sharp enough to shave for cuttin' meat. One time she used one of my knives to cut pickles and she was banging the edge against a plate. I took it away from her, honed the edge and now I'm the official pickle cutter.
 
If someone asks if I have a knife, my answer is always, "That depends on what you want to do with one."
I do the same thing, if they come back with something like, "to tighten a screw or use as a pry bar then they'll have to look elsewhere. If I've got my Leatherman with me, I'll just do it for them. I've always said, "keep your knives clean and sharp and they'll always be ready for use."
 
As a Norwegian we are given a knife as soon as we're able to use one safely and I received my first at 7. Yep I did stupid stuff with it and received my share of deep cuts but it taught me to respect a good blade how to handle one properly.....I just presented my confirmation knife to my nephew on his confirmation as I have no children of my own but it's his second as I give him my first chef's knife 5 years ago and taught him how to use it.
 

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