New 442 trouble x 2 anyone else see this

[nc scout]

Hello all I am a revolver guy all the way. I have a model 360 PD model 60, 2 model 637, (wife also carries a 637) and just bought a 442 for CC. Anyway a friend of mine also bought a 442. We took them to the range over the weekend and found that both 442's malfunctioned within the first 50 rounds. Revolvers were cleaned before firing. Mine after 15 rounds, his after about 30 rounds. Mine the trigger would pull, the cylinder would turn but there were no strikes on the primers. His locked up trigger would not pull at all. Removed ammo on his and still trigger would not pull. We loaded mine back up and it fired a few times them quit again. Anyway we came back to the house I was going to send mine back for repair and he said we should call a gunsmith he had dealt with before. The GS looked at them for us and after removing the side plate found that the hammer spring on his was out of the slot and would not allow the hammer to come back locking up the gun. Also the action was as dry as a bone. Mine he found was dry as a bone in the action and the hammer spring wedge thing was not seated causing light spring pressure. He disassembled, cleaned, and oiled both actions replaced the side plates and back to the range we went. 150 rounds through each without a miss. This is the first new Smith&Wesson I have bought in a couple of years. is this what to expect now? Never had a Smith cut up like these out of the box. Always in the past unpack clean and fire. Thanks for your input.

 

[Old cop]

I recently purchased a new 340 M&P and after the first range trip had the cylinder almost come off the frame when cleaning. It was not the frame screw and it had to go back to S&W. They had it fixed and returned within 10 days and it worked fine.

I just bought a new Glock 42 .380 that has every single problem an auto can experience, unusual for a Glock. The LGS worked w/me and we tried everything to no avail and it's now on its way back to Glock. Had problems w/new Springfield 1911 & Ruger LCP and am about to give up on new guns. Tired of the hassle & disappointment. I don't believe your experience is unique unfortunately.

 

[kaaskop49]

I would continue to shoot your gun regularly, say 100-150 rounds a session until you feel perfectly confident that it functions 100%. Also, I salute you for seeking professional help in identifying and hopefully, solving the problem permanently.

Wow. Bummer on the Glock 42.

 

[Old cop]

Re: the Glock 42 it's a good thing to establish a relationship w/your LGS. They've gone out of their way to help me but the gun has to go back to Glock. It would run fine for a few rounds, then FTE (extract & eject), FTF, Fail to chamber a fresh round, stove pipe, & double feed. It has been inconsistent since I bought it last Friday and totally unreliable. I'm not even sure it can be fixed.

 

[Hapworth]

Re: the Glock 42 it's a good thing to establish a relationship w/your LGS. They've gone out of their way to help me but the gun has to go back to Glock. It would run fine for a few rounds, then FTE (extract & eject), FTF, Fail to chamber a fresh round, stove pipe, & double feed. It has been inconsistent since I bought it last Friday and totally unreliable. I'm not even sure it can be fixed.

That's seriously disappointing to hear, and especially to experience.

I'm rarely an early adopter, but I did snag two early Gen4s because I loved the ergonomic changes. Had all the problems endemic to the early Gen4s (frankly, exactly what you're describing).

To Glock's credit, they got in gear, acknowledged issues and found and offered fixes -- all on their dime -- and appear to have applied those fixes to the production line going forward; current Gen4s, to my knowledge (and I've been following this) aren't reporting the same troubles, and mine are flawless now.

But it does feel like a failure of adequate R&D on Glock's part; like many manufacturers seem to do these days, the first wave of buyers appear to be unwitting beta testers. If your experience of the G42 is revealed to be emblematic, I'd say that possibility is further substantiated.

 

[Hapworth]

...The GS looked at them for us and after removing the side plate found that the hammer spring on his was out of the slot and would not allow the hammer to come back locking up the gun. Also the action was as dry as a bone. Mine he found was dry as a bone in the action and the hammer spring wedge thing was not seated causing light spring pressure. He disassembled, cleaned, and oiled both actions replaced the side plates and back to the range we went. 150 rounds through each without a miss....

Unfortunate experience, but thankfully fairly easily resolved.

Many of us here have a policy about recent firearm acquisitions: whether new, or just new to me, they all get detail stripped, cleaned, inspected and meticulously reassembled and lubed before first use.

Yes, it seems a shame to have that kind of policy with a new gun but, as you can attest, it's sometimes necessary.

When you settle on a defense round, put many cylinders of it down range before deeming the gun ready for carry.