New Pistol & Review - It's not what you think

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I have added a new member to my polymer fighting pistol collection. I'll give you a hint. Which one doesn't belong?



If you are still not sure...


And just for good measure, here's one with the 9c


If you STILL are not sure which pistol is the topic of this conversation.....it is the GLOCK 32. The GLOCK 32 is the same size as the GLOCK 19, but is chambered in 357 SIG. Wonderful cartridge BTW. My dollars would have gone to smith if I could have found a M&P 357c.....and I am one of those weird M&P owners that have been begging for a G19 sized M&P...I know, the 9c is too close and the 9 FS is too close, so they apparently will never make one (I sure would've bought it if they did!).

Ok, on to the review with comparisons to my beloved M&Ps, but first, a little background.

My first semi auto pistol was a G21 in the Clinton ban era, and after that I purchased a G17 Gen 3. Both pistols were amazing...then I shot my first M&P (The 4.25 pro with the light attached in the photo). I quickly dumped the GLOCKs and went ALL IN on the M&P, and I wouldn't change anything about it. I love the M&P design.

Let me say that the nay sayers about the M&P trigger are BLOWING it out of proportion. Gritty trigger this, heavy trigger that...just don't believe that that applies to all M&Ps. Maybe some suffer from a poor trigger, and S&W could improve the QC process, but all four of my M&Ps have a trigger as good, if not better, than the GLOCK 32 Gen 4. I will say that the Gen 4 trigger is not as good as the Gen 3 pistol I owned before it, but the M&Ps I own all have good triggers. Only one of the four has any modifications to the trigger. My stock M&Ps have clean slack and a pretty crisp break. They also all got much better with use and rounds down range. The GLOCK 32 trigger has a little heavier take up (the slack), and then has a good amount of creep before the trigger breaks. None of my M&Ps have slack that heavy or that much creep.

When you shoot the G32, the trigger problems are much less apparent, and I think a good shooter could routinely hit a torso sized target at 100 yards, and easily hit a torso sized target at 50 yards (my M&Ps can all do this just as well as the G32 BTW). The recoil is tame, but more potent than range/target 9mm ammo. It slaps straight back without much muzzle flip, but the slap lets you know that you are not shooting a 9mm. It is less muzzle flip than the 40 S&W though. I like the 9mm on steroids feel. It is fast on target, provides accurate and fast follow-up shots, and provides comfort to the shooter that the target down range is going to get walloped. Shooting steel plates and trees really shows the difference between 357 SIG and 9mm. 357 SIG really does hit with authority.

In summary, I would have liked to purchase a M&P in 357 SIG, and would have LOVED to purchase a M&P in 357 SIG that is the size of the GLOCK 19, but that just wasn't an option. I DO REALLY like the GLOCK 32 (mostly for its size and caliber), and would recommend it to the M&P customer looking for a great all around pistol in 357 SIG.
 
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Very nice! I too have become a enthralled with the 357 sig round. I couldn't agree more about how the recoil is very comfortable and in fact my better half has declared she doesn't want any more 9mm and I am on the hunt for a p2000sk in .357 sig for her. It gets to the target very quickly and makes an average shooter look very good. Of course this new fettish for this round and the advice of the Leo's here in the forum have led us to acquire a few sigs in this caliber and with all the police trade ins now surfacing it didn't break the bank either. Congratulations on your new addition
 
Couldn't find a barrel for a 40c to convert to 357 Sig?

I think I read somewhere the FS can do that nicely.
 
That glock looks so square or "boxy" compared to that M&P. But hey, different strokes for different folks. Glad your happy with it :)
 
That glock looks so square or "boxy" compared to that M&P. But hey, different strokes for different folks. Glad your happy with it :)

It sure does. Trust me, I wish all my strokes came in the form of an M&P!! :D

It's unfortunate that I had to send Gaston some money rather than S&W.

As far as conversion from 40c to 357c...that was an option, but I decided against it for two reasons:

1. I was having a hard time finding a S&W 357c barrel, and I'm not willing to rely on an aftermarket barrel for SD.

2. I kinda wanted my slide to have "357" engraved in it :cool:

I may go after a 40 S&W M&P at some point (all mine are 9mm BTW), but again, I'd have to settle for a 357 aftermarket barrel rather than a S&W M&P barrel chambered in 357. I know that the 40 S&W is a great round for SD, but I don't shoot it as well as 9mm or 357 sig...or 45 ACP for that matter.

My 9c is still by EDC. I just love the 9c...GREAT PISTOL, and the (stock) trigger is better than the GLOCK 32 gen 4. However, once I get a bit more trigger time with the G32, it may split time with the 9c.
 
I can put my hands on an M&P 357c sig LNIB with 50 rounds of ammo for I think $525. Local to me. If interested pm me and I'll give you more info including phone #. Nothing in it for me, just the local guy I deal with who treats me right.
 
+1 for the 357c. I like mine a lot and when my Dad fell in love with my 40c it didn't bother me too much to let him have that (for a while) and carry my 357c if I got the bug to carry an M&P.:)

I usually carry a 6904 but I do like the M&P as well. Fit like a glove and very accurate. You'll come across a 357c soon enough and then you can decide what to do with the...well...you know.;)
 

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I always wanted to pick up a G24 and convert it. Then I would have to buy a chronograph so I could gloat over the extra velocity.

Nice to see a pistol with such nice, clean lines with no fru-fru stuff. :)
 
I can put my hands on an M&P 357c sig LNIB with 50 rounds of ammo for I think $525. Local to me. If interested pm me and I'll give you more info including phone #. Nothing in it for me, just the local guy I deal with who treats me right.

Ginzo, where were you a few weeks ago!!? :confused:

I would love to own a 357c, but if I buy another pistol in the next 6 months, I'll also have to budget for alimony! :eek: lol!

The G32 will fill the void, and I don't have a problem with GLOCKS, I just shoot the M&Ps a little better. I am a little disappointed in the gen 4 trigger pull, but I'll see how it feels after 1000 rounds. One of the great things about 357 sig is that it is almost as cheap as 9mm to reload which can translate into a lot of shooting.

I do have to say that the G32 conceals almost as well as the M&P 9c. The 9c is a little easier to hide with the flat mag though.

I am disappointed that S&W discontinued the 357 M&Ps. I know they did it for a reason, but DAMN it is a very nice cartridge. Less muzzle flip than a 40, more muzzle energy than everything except the 10mm (generally speaking). I just hope that LEOs and federal agencies keep ordering it so manufacturers keep makin' it!
 
Had a good range session this afternoon with the G32, M&P FS, and M&P 9c. The G32 is a freakin' powerhouse (as far as the cartridge is concerned (357 sig)) compared to my 9mm M&Ps. The G32 digested everything including: Underwood 147gr, Doubletap 125gr, Winchester Ranger-T, Winchester Ranter-T bonded, Federal HST, along with some 124gr reloads loaded with 10 grains of blue dot (read: big fireball). My M&Ps have never missed a beat, but I was happy to see the G32 prove itself through the first 500 rounds.

As to the 357 sig coming out of a lightweight 4 inch pistol - It is a hand cannon! The result of that energy was the notorious GLOCK hump battered the middle of my palm. It's fine, I can suck it up, but it really reinforces why I love the M&P design so much: ERGONOMICS.

I was more accurate and faster with the M&Ps, but I know the faster part is to be expected because I'm comparing 357 sig to 9mm. However, the 357 sig coming out of the GLOCK 32 is more than serviceable, and is very accurate if you do your part.
 
I can put my hands on an M&P 357c sig LNIB with 50 rounds of ammo for I think $525. Local to me. If interested pm me and I'll give you more info including phone #. Nothing in it for me, just the local guy I deal with who treats me right.

Hi Ginzo, is it still for sale?
 
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