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I suck with a pistol - UPDATE with pic
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Hopefully the picture is showing up for you guys.
This was at 10 yards with 15 rounds. Is this an 'acceptable' grouping for that distance given my lack of experience? Wonder why most shots are left of the tape?
All I did was focus more on the break of the trigger and change my grip to a "correct" grip. Still have a lot of practicing to do, but this was a confidence booster.
This was at 10 yards with 15 rounds. Is this an 'acceptable' grouping for that distance given my lack of experience? Wonder why most shots are left of the tape?
All I did was focus more on the break of the trigger and change my grip to a "correct" grip. Still have a lot of practicing to do, but this was a confidence booster.
Not too bad, EV. More trigger time will have you doing even better!
You are right handed, no? After you obtain a good grip you should place the trigger finger onto the trigger in a manner that will pull straight back without moving your pistol sights. This is where the luxury of a removable backstrap is great. Choose one that allows the most comfortable/effective grip for you.
"Snatching the trigger" in a dynamic motion will often move your sights off the intended target. A right hand shooter that snatches the trigger will often pull shots low and left...lefties will be low right of the target.
Work on straight back and smoooooth.
You are right handed, no? After you obtain a good grip you should place the trigger finger onto the trigger in a manner that will pull straight back without moving your pistol sights. This is where the luxury of a removable backstrap is great. Choose one that allows the most comfortable/effective grip for you.
"Snatching the trigger" in a dynamic motion will often move your sights off the intended target. A right hand shooter that snatches the trigger will often pull shots low and left...lefties will be low right of the target.
Work on straight back and smoooooth.
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keithherrington
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Are you using a laser or the original sights?
As a lefty I had a bad habit of squeezing w/my other fingers along the grip as I pulled the trigger. That made all my groups go low right (low left for right handed shooters) and it took awhile for someone to identify my problem, then for me to correct it. The smaller the grip surface the more pronounced the problem and only practice takes care of it.
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The iron sights.
geraldw321
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Hi there Practice , practice , practice... thats how you get better with anything . I'm sure you will get better as you get more time with the pistol , enjoy your time with it and all will be well 
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Arik
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How is your vision? I'm serious, it might be a vision problem. The target might not be as crisp
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Better than 20/20.
I don't see a damn thing wrong with that, especially being a new rig.
From bottom to top, left to right, looks to be about a 4 to 5" group.
All within center mass. Nice job, especially at 30 feet.
As said, you're not going to shoot 1" groups at 30 feet using a combat gun...starting out. It'll take quite a bit of time and practice...and even then, it'll be tough. Nice shooting.
From bottom to top, left to right, looks to be about a 4 to 5" group.
All within center mass. Nice job, especially at 30 feet.
As said, you're not going to shoot 1" groups at 30 feet using a combat gun...starting out. It'll take quite a bit of time and practice...and even then, it'll be tough. Nice shooting.
+1 to everything said above. I would add that lying a coin on the front of slide during dry fire will help smooth you out. I do not know where you shoot, but try to focus on every shot 10 X's are better than 50 7's. Since you are new you want to try to do it correctly each time since it is easier to create good habits than it is to break bad ones. Be Safe,
2 Clicks right windage and you will be a Tape Terror!
BigBill
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Put some moly on the trigger sear. The sear will break smoother and it will lessen the trigger pull too. It's a big difference in accuracy.
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Assuming that is 2" wide duct tape, I say damn good shooting for a newbie. It is well within 1 minute of dead intruder. BUT, if it is that new 8" wide duct tape I saw the other day at Home Depot, not so good.................
Personally I like to do two types of shooting practice. The first is take your time calculated get it dead center get a 10 score. This is ego boosting, but slow. The other is to quickly raise the M&P, fire 4-8 shots rapid fire and see where they go. A home intruder or carjacker is NOT going to give you 20 seconds to get your sight picture right or pull out a sandbag.
I have had people at indoor ranges ask what I was doing firing 4-8 rounds so fast and getting 4"-8" groups at 7 yards. They say I am blazing away ammo foolishly. I tell them I am practicing saving my life and my families lives. A couple range masters have confronted me about rapid fire. I tell them what I am doing and I have never once been asked to stop.
I have subscriptions to about a dozen gun magazines. Nothing irks me more than to see an article or review about how the author got a 2.71" group at 20-25 yards off a sandbag rest and then he starts pissing and moaning about poor accuracy in the test gun. To me, a GREAT group is 4-8 rounds in less than 3 seconds and measuring 4-8" of chest.
I believe CWP trainers use the phrase: stop the threat For me that means no sandbag and 20 seconds between shots
Personally I like to do two types of shooting practice. The first is take your time calculated get it dead center get a 10 score. This is ego boosting, but slow. The other is to quickly raise the M&P, fire 4-8 shots rapid fire and see where they go. A home intruder or carjacker is NOT going to give you 20 seconds to get your sight picture right or pull out a sandbag.
I have had people at indoor ranges ask what I was doing firing 4-8 rounds so fast and getting 4"-8" groups at 7 yards. They say I am blazing away ammo foolishly. I tell them I am practicing saving my life and my families lives. A couple range masters have confronted me about rapid fire. I tell them what I am doing and I have never once been asked to stop.
I have subscriptions to about a dozen gun magazines. Nothing irks me more than to see an article or review about how the author got a 2.71" group at 20-25 yards off a sandbag rest and then he starts pissing and moaning about poor accuracy in the test gun. To me, a GREAT group is 4-8 rounds in less than 3 seconds and measuring 4-8" of chest.
I believe CWP trainers use the phrase: stop the threat For me that means no sandbag and 20 seconds between shots
