Traffic stop while carrying

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What's the right thing to do in this case?
Announce that you are legally carrying, or say nothing and hope that the LEO doesn't notice? I'm thinking the latter could be extremely dangerous.
 
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Yup... Varies from State to State.
In TX, you hand the cop both your DL and CHL card and let them direct what happens next.
They May ask if you're carrying 'Now'... Then may simply say 'leave it where it is', depending on the severity of the stop.
 
Respectfully inform the officer that you have a concealed carry license, that there is a gun in the car, and where in the vehicle or on your person it can be found. Keep your hands on the steering wheel and obey instructions to the letter.

Understandably, LEO's don't like surprises. I wouldn't in their situation.
 
First you want to abide by the laws in your state, if you are required to inform then of course you want to do so. If not then it’s your call.
I don’t because I don’t see the point; all it does is add time to the stop.

I haven’t been pulled over in years but if I am I have my wallet in my hand before the cop ever gets to the car. I hand him my paperwork and go from there. If I am asked if there are any weapons in the car I say nothing and hand the cop my permit.
 
I had the opportunity to explore this event a couple weeks ago as I returned from the range at a higher than advisable rate of speed that attracted the attention of a pair of deputies and their surprisingly accurate radar gun. The officer in charge not very kindly asked me where I had been, what I had been doing, had I had anything to drink today, and was I taking any "medications?" (this is Colorado, mind you). Figuring that honesty is the best policy, especially when talking to LE, I stated that I had been target shooting on public land about 10 miles up the road and was returning home. Answers to the last two questions were NO SIR and NO SIR. Officers seemed a little tense. "How many guns do you have in your vehicle?" Now I'm a little tense. Uh ... using fingers ... 4 revolvers and one rifle. "Where are the guns?" The handguns are in cases in this box on the seat next to me and the rifle is in the case next to that. "Ok, do you have any weapons ON you?" NO SIR. That was the truth, but I had reserved my last 6 rounds of 357 in the model 19 just because. That is legal in this state and I do also have a concealed carry license, but had just elected to put the gun in the case for the ride home.

"Ok, let me see your papers and don't go digging around in that box." YES SIR, I understand.

Turns out I checked out as distinctly non-threatening and he advised me to be more observant of the signage due to the number of deer and elk on the road, don't want to hit one of those, makes a mess. Yes, I see them regularly and I promise to be more careful. "OK, have a nice day and here is my business card in case you have any questions about this contact." Then they relaxed and made some jokes about the targets that were clearly visible in the back. I think they were mostly looking for impaired drivers coming back from the nearby casinos and I didn't fit the description.

To make a long story longer, I thought about all this and sent the officer a respectful email inquiring about the proper procedure if I had been armed on my person. In the meantime, I looked up the law and it turns out that Colorado does not have a Duty to Inform law. In a couple hours, presumably at the end of his shift, he replied, also very respectfully, that IF ASKED I must state that I am armed. Then, it is up to the officer's discretion whether to disarm the person. Just do as directed.

So, I learned a little bit. Check your local laws.
 
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My daughter is in a Police Explorer group. I take her to her meetings and get to play drunks, thugs, etc... (definitely fun).

A couple of weeks ago they did traffic stop scenarios. This is done in a public parking lot with lights going and radios on the training frequency.

When we were finished, I asked one of the instructors the best way to handle a situation if I were pulled over while carrying. Ohio is a shall inform state. This is a veteran officer and SWAT team sniper. His answer? "Be as rude as possible." Say what?!
He clarified "If the officer is speaking when he approaches, interrupt them. If they continue interrupt them again. They will understand when they hear what you've said."

His instructions for on what to do and say? "Officer, I am a CC permit holder I have a firearm on my person (or in the vehicle)
How would you like me to proceed"?

His advise also. hands on steering wheel, window down, dome light on if nighttime. You want to make the officer as comfortable as possible.

Good tips. Though I'm not sure about being rude, but he says he'd rather be interrupted than surprised.

Sorry for the length.
 
You can not go wrong with following the law of the state you are stopped in, however from experience I can tell you that cops don't like surprises and like to feel in control. I teach, "I have a CCW permit and I am carrying, what would you like me to do?
 
In Michigan the person who owns the vehicle their license plate will tell the LEO when him/her runs the plate that you are a CPL/CCW holder before they stop you. When they do pull you over you MUST tell them that you are a CPL/CCW holder and where your hardware is if on you. I think all states should do this for not only your safe being but also the LEO.
 
No duty to inform here. Only been pulled over once. Handed my DL and HCP to the officer. I didn't say anything about a gun nor did the officer. That's the way it should be IMO. I'm not going to hold my hands on the steering wheel or act any differently because I'm carrying. In Tenn our DL and HCP are the same number so if he runs my tag before he approaches my truck I'm guessing he knows the registered owner has a carry permit. Seems like most everyone around here has a gun in the car anyway, carry permit or not. :D
 
In NY, LE has no ability to determine if you have a CC permit from your driver's lic information. Nor are you legally obligated to tell them if you are carrying during a traffic stop.

If I were stopped I would say nothing unless they specifically ask or if for some reason, they ask me to get out of my car. I would definitely tell them prior to exiting. I would also ask them how they'd like me to proceed (with both hands on the steering wheel).
 
In Michigan the person who owns the vehicle their license plate will tell the LEO when him/her runs the plate that you are a CPL/CCW holder before they stop you. When they do pull you over you MUST tell them that you are a CPL/CCW holder and where your hardware is if on you. I think all states should do this for not only your safe being but also the LEO.

Like said, Ohio is a must inform state. If *I* happen to get pulled over, I put both hands out of the window and when the officer approaches, I tell him that I am an armed off-duty, and let him take it from there. The only difference with an off-duty and a CCW holder is what you tell the LEO who stopped you: (I'm an LEO OR, I have a CCW and am carrying).

I too appreciate being told by the driver/occupants of a vehicle as soon as I get to the car and 9/10 let them keep their gun on them, but ask that they keep their hands away from it unless SPECIFICALLY asked to do so (such as if the wallet is in the rear pocket behind the gun).

A good thing to do would be to have the wallet and ID OUT before the LEO approaches the car. It usually takes us a minute or two to get out of our car to approach yours and that would be the time to get it, NOT as we are approaching, that just doesn't look "right" to us, it may trigger a "warning" that something is up (I work in the inner-city, so I am VERY attuned and suspicious of movement in a car).

Just be calm and use your head and you should be fine.
 
In South Carolina you are required to inform the LEO you have a cwp and a weapon in the car.

Yes, but only after they ask for your identification (and they've clearly identified themselves as a LEO, which is usually clear via uniform and badge).
 
Cmort probably has more info on this than I do but in Ohio I believe a permit holder was charged with failure to in form in a timely manner because it took him 51 seconds to get the cop to shut up long enough for him to get the words out.
 
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