Official: Shield WITHOUT Safety

I don't know if they are under orders to say things like that or if they are really clueless about what their own company is doing. There were threads like this when the Shield first came out and people had phone calls and replies to emails like this. You just never know for sure until it happens. Or not of course.

They are not allowed to say anything UNTIL the official release.


C4
 
Any chance S&W will do an "upgrade" program where you can send in your Shield with safety and have it modified to a non-safety model?

Not sure what they would do with the hole in the frame... :confused:
 
Not sure what they would do with the hole in the frame... :confused:
Perhaps simply 'Plug' it with some material... May not be that esthetically pleasing... But that's just a guess.

If a Safetyless version had been available from the start, I would have chosen it over one with a safety, but now that I've had mine for 2 yrs with absolutely no issues with the safety inadvertently engaging/disengaging itself, I'm not planning on sending mine in for alteration, nor am I planning on Trading/Selling mine for a new one.

The best part of this (to me) is that those people who refused to even consider the Shield, just because it did have an external safety, may now give them a second look. :)

Good to see that S&W updated their web pages to prove that it's not just a rumor.
I do wonder though, why they're only using a 5 digit SKU for these, when all the others have 6 digit SKUs.
 
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So I guess if someone doesn't think they want that then don't buy the car. Makes perfect sense to me. Also if the brakes are worn out then so is the emergency/handbrake since they're the same thing.

All my auto loader pistols have a thumb safety except my Glock. None ever caused me to lose a combat match.


I totally understand your feelings. However I have taken many force on force classes and I cannot tell you how many times the 1911 airsoft guys did not get the thumb safety disengaged while being attacked.

Stress is Murphy's mother in law.

I swear by any defensive handgun or revolver I carry must be draw point click. No safeties at all.

To each his own I suppose. I am going from what I have experienced. I also try not to pocket carry much anymore.

Drawing from a pocket while moving to avoid a threat is next to impossible.

That being said. I am soooo happy this is happening. I LOVE the shield but couldn't justify buying one with a thumb safety. Now that they are doing this I am surely buying one and ditching the Sig and the Beretta. :D
 
Personally I cannot wait for the glut of hardly used Shield 9mm's w/safety to start hitting the market. I plan to slurp one up!!!


Hopefully a few 40s as well so I can grab me another one as well. A third as a spare/truck gun would be saweet at a good price.
 
I hope we can purchase replacement parts to remove the safety lever on existing guns.
 
S&W sells a thumb safety frame plug to convert full size M&Ps to no thumb safety models. Hopefully they'll release a similar plug for the Shield?
 
S&W sells a thumb safety frame plug to convert full size M&Ps to no thumb safety models. Hopefully they'll release a similar plug for the Shield?

I don't think so.

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I recently got a shield because it is light, slim and shoots great, the safety lever was the last thing I looked at, will leave it off and ignore it, the gun definitely looks better without it.


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Well the striker fired pistols with the safe triggers are really the same as a 1911 cocked but the safety OFF
Only difference is the glock types have more FREE travel but there still is no resistance
Imagine if the striker was an external cocked hammer you could see like a 1911
Would you feel comfortable carrying it with no thumb safety
Well that striker is Cocked but out of sight unlike an external hammer
Think about it

No, it's not the same at all. The firing pin on a striker fired pistol isn't "cocked" until the trigger is pressed to the rear with about twice or better the force required to fired a single action 1911 style pistol. A striker fired pistol is much more similar to a double action revolver than to a cocked single action pistol with the safety off.
 
I don't understand this hatred of safeties...

The thumb safeties on the M&P series (M&P45/45c, 40/40c, 9/9c) is a very poor one. I've had several with thumb safeties, and they were obtrusive, mushy, and without a positive engagement/disengagement.

The safety on the Shield is much different and much better. In fact, on mine, it was hard to engage, and being flat it was never in the way. I never had any concerns with it. It's very easy to ignore and not use, without concerns about it engaging unintentionally. I certainly wouldn't hold off on buying a Shield because of the safety...because even if S&W is really going to be releasing models without safeties, they may be few and hard to find, unless that is ALL they produce going forward.

I'd rather have the Shield with a safety, so I could use it if I wanted to, and ignore it when I didn't...than to have one that allowed me no choice. BUT, that's just me.
 
I'll let u guys know if the 9mm barrel works in this new no safety .40 Shield. Afterwards, i'm handing the no safety shield back over and keeping my current Shield.

IMO, S&W is just doing this to try and boost the sales of the Shield once again. I see no reason why they would change something that works and it was designed to do so.
 
Hello all,
New to the forum but have been reading for quite some time.
I decided to join today because I had to finally chime in on this subject.
I've had my shield 9 for quite a while now, (over a year), and I have to say, I think the safety on this particular firearm is a work of genius.
Use it if you want to, leave it alone if you don't.
Low profile so it doesn't get in the way but there if you want or need it, and a very positive engagement if you do decide you do want to use it.
I truly don't understand the dislike of safeties on a gun. Especially on this particular gun and safety design. for those worried about the safety on a shield becoming "accidentally engaged"... I would actually pay anyone who could demonstrate that happening. You absolutely have to be deliberately trying to engage the safety in order for it to become activated yet disengaging it (while still deliberate) can be accomplished as easily as on any 1911. The fact that you can still manipulate the slide for charging or clearing a round with the safety engaged makes it, IMHO, perfect. I use it to "stage" my shield when I'm preparing for a day of carry. I engage the safety, load up, rack a round, holster and disengage the safety once the firearm is fully seated. Ready to rock!!
Please don't let the safety on the Shield deter you from getting one.
I would venture to bet that once you've owned one for a while you'll begin to see that the safety can be quite useful in some circumstances.
In fact, if I could have the same safety that comes on the Shield on my 40c, I'd be a happy guy :D.

no offence to anyone on this forum intended.
Just my 2.
 
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