iconic (merriam webster): Widely known and recognized for distinctive excellence.
Not arguing either, just discussing. Words have meaning. If you have another definition, I'll listen, but the 39 don't hit that one.
You stole my post. Words DO mean things, and when discussing a subject (in this case ICONIC guns) one is not allowed to substitute "other" words just because they better fit your purpose.
By the definition of the word ICONIC, Browning HP is the clear choice of "most iconic" among the choices given.
Great Thread !
The HK copy of the Mauser HSc was the HK 4,
The "P4" was an updated version of the Walther P1.
Also I think db meant the grip frame shape of the Sig P210 was similar in appearance to the Walther P38 (also made by Mauser in WWII) with a similar butt shape, lanyad loop and grip grooves ...trigger looks more like a 1950 Beretta 380,
Im not knocking the high quality Sig P210 but IMO its hardly "Iconic" and I would venture to guess that if 100 shooters at an American gun range were shown a P210 the majority would say they never saw or heard of one before, Probably goes for several of the 9mm's pictured like the Radom etc, the same group presented with a Luger or Walther P38 probably would know the name, caliber and what country it was from....and thats "Iconic".
My updated "Iconic metal frame 9mm" short list in the order they appeared is as follows,
Luger (1908), Browning HP (1935), Walther P38 (1938), S&W Model 39 (1955), S&W Model 59 (1971), Beretta 92 (1975), CZ75 (1975), HK P7 (1979), S&W Model 659 (1982).
You really should have added the Glock 17.
Regardless of its haters, no one can deny that Glock handguns have reached the status of icon in modern pop and firearms culture.
The mere fact that Glock owns the police handgun market in the US should be proof enough. Add to that its near instantly recognizable silhouette and its undeniable toughness and reliability and you have a modern classic.
I've been a huge fan of the Hi Power and Model 39 for years.
I also feel that with it's utilization (military/LEO/civilian), units sold, and mainstream (movies and television) popularity, the Beretta 92/M9 has to be the most iconic 9mm for the past 30-40 years.
If I had to pick one, though, I would choose my early 1950's FN Hi Power.
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Guys, I can always find a steel framed WWII model. They are far from rare. As for the thread, I was actually just representing the models. I was talking about the exact gun pictured.
For my P38, I actually wanted something a little off the beaten path. I found one of the rare polished blue models only built for a year or two.
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Sweet collection !
Im also a 9mm fan but I have a touch of OCD,
Top row L-R should be the Luger (first 9mm handgun) P38 (replaced the Luger), Browning HP, and the Radom all WWII era guns (except the Luger that saw action in both WWI and WWII....Maybe a mauser Broomhandle in 9mm and a 9mm Tokorov.
The 50's 60's era Model 39 (no dash) did see action in Vietnam and comes 1st in the 2nd row, then need a Model 59 as it bridges the gap between hi cap and DA auto, then the CZ75 , then perhaps a 9mm 1911, then the Beretta 92 and a Walther P88 .
Last row should be the Walther P1, P2 (Sig P210), P3 (Astra 600), Walther P4, Walther P5, P6 (Sig P225), P7 (HK PSP), P8 (HK USP) and HK P9.